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Author Topic: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory  (Read 1719906 times)

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #45 on: July 26, 2007, 11:13:26 PM »
Part 4 - Pulse Rate or Pulse Frequency

It is obvious from our discussion that the Pulse Rate of Pulse Frequency is extremely important.  The Pulse from the electromagnetic coils must be timed correctly to the rotational speed to achieve Pulsed Rotation.  (Same with ICs).

Thus one of the things I look at with any Pulse Motor claims is the Pulse control mechanism.  We do not need to Pulse at every possible point.  If we Pulse at every possible point, the rotational speed will keep increasing.  The result may be device burnt out, overheat or in the case of the Steorn demonstration - bearing failure.

In the 225 HP pulse motor, we can have the eight Pulse Coils all Pulsing to build up the rotational speed initially.  Then the number may be cut down to match the load.

There is need to consider the resonance frequency of the device.  We do not want the device to vibrate or shake itself to death (e.g. the bridge in 1940).

In the TPU invention, Steven Mark cautioned that the device should operate close to but not at the resonance frequency.  That is good advice.

Selecting the right frequency is often the result of experimental trial and error.  It is somewhat like tuning for a radio station.  We may miss it with slightly too low or too high frequencies.

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« Reply #45 on: July 26, 2007, 11:13:26 PM »

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« Reply #46 on: July 26, 2007, 11:19:54 PM »
Part 5 - Pulse Strength

One obvious question is the strength of the Pulse.  From our pulsed pendulum calculations, the best efficiency is achieved with small but frequent pulses.

We believe this result is also applicable in the case of pulsed rotations.

The 225 HP is much bigger and heavier than the Liang 188 HP car engine.  The Pulse Strength of the Liang engine comes from ICs.

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« Reply #47 on: July 27, 2007, 01:12:53 AM »
Part 6 - Pulse Force direction

The best direction to spin a wheel is obviously tangential. (Perpendicular to the radius).

However, we may have to consider that the magnets are subjected to varying centripetal forces.  (The magnets must be secure in position otherwise, they may fly away!)

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« Reply #48 on: July 27, 2007, 01:21:25 AM »
Part 7 - Consideration of Pulsing and Collecting Coils

We may use the same coil for Pulsing and Collecting of electricity.  It is just a matter of putting in the right circuits.  The Bedini Motor is an example.

When the same coil is used for Pulsing and for Collecting, we can imagine that the rotational speed is increased and then decreased almost immediately.  It will be difficult to build up to a high rotating speed (unless we do not collect initially.)

We can use totally different coils for Pulsing and for Collecting.  We can optimize the effectiveness of such specialized coils.

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« Reply #49 on: July 27, 2007, 01:26:48 AM »
Part 8 - Comparing Pulse Current and Alternating Current

With Pulse Current, the voltage is always in one direction.  The value may change from a maximum to zero.  The current will not flow in the opposite direction.

With Alternating Current, the voltage changes in direction according to frequency. Current or electron move in both directions.

Alternating Current destroys the magnetism  in permanent magnets easily.  Pulsing Current does not.

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« Reply #50 on: July 27, 2007, 01:34:46 AM »
Part 9 - Use of magnetic shielding material

The use of the Pulse will rotate the rotor pass the 'sticky' spots.  Thus there is no need to use magnetic shielding material.

Magnetic shielding material is expensive and difficult to handle.  It will help in marginal cases.  With pulsed rotation, we can avoid such expense and complexity.

From my understanding, the 225 HP pulse motor did not use magnetic shielding.  The Sung Tim Fat and Wang Shum Ho devices used magnetic shielding.

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« Reply #51 on: July 27, 2007, 02:07:36 AM »
Part 10 - Feedback Circuit

Once the Pulse Motors achieved feedback, they essentially generate electricity without any more input.  It would be meaningless to talk about Coefficient of Efficiency. (Output/Input power).

However, we have to worry about a different problem - energy buildup.  If the Output Load is reduced, the device must pump out less power.  There must be sufficient power to provide feedback.  Excess power must be avoided to prevent overheating the device.

Good control circuit is necessary.

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« Reply #52 on: July 27, 2007, 03:59:30 AM »
Part 11 - how Lenz law is minimized or eliminated?

From the Lee-Tseung Lead Out theory, the Pulsed Rotation alone is sufficient to Lead Out both gravitational and electron motion energy.  There is no need to introduce new concepts to explain the source of energy.  The Law of Conservation of Energy is NOT violated.

In some Pulse Motors such as the Liang and Chao devices, no coils nor permanent magnets were used.  Lenz Law was not applicable.

In the case of TPU, the pulsed electromagnets introduce electron movement along the torroid.  Using layman languages, if the Pulse Frequency is correct, the 'Pulse' travels around to add to the 'push' of the electrons.  This helps to build up the electric potential or voltage so that the TPU can generate electricity.  Note that it is Pulse Frequency and not alternating current frequency.

Thus we are not introducing new concepts such as back emf, magnetic lag, magnetic viscosity, zero point energy etc.  We believe such concepts might be useful to the inventors in their explanations.  However, we believe we can explain the working of their inventions from the Lee-Tseung Lead Out theory alone.

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« Reply #53 on: July 27, 2007, 04:10:21 AM »
Part 12 - Answers to direct questions


Do the coils have ferromagnetic cores?

How much overunity have the builder of these setups measured? For the 225 HP motor for instance, what was the input power?


From the pictures, the 225 HP motor appears to have ferromagnetic cores in the coils.  The coils are not hollow.

From the pictures, the 225 HP motor appears to have 4 car batteries used to start the rotation and power the coils.  However, these batteries will be recharged by the device and can be disconnected afterwards.

End of Part 12 - (End of reply for now.  Any more questions?)

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« Reply #53 on: July 27, 2007, 04:10:21 AM »
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« Reply #54 on: July 27, 2007, 12:40:28 PM »
Dear Lawrence,

Many thanks for your lengthy comments in 12 Parts, and although most of the texts you included are also available in the link you referred to,  I do appreciate your efforts. 

Perhaps the most important question, Lentz law in the pulse motor concept you showed, is what I missing: I cannot really make out any answer on that from you.  I quote your answer from Part 11:

Part 11 - how Lenz law is minimized or eliminated?

From the Lee-Tseung Lead Out theory, the Pulsed Rotation alone is sufficient to Lead Out both gravitational and electron motion energy.  There is no need to introduce new concepts to explain the source of energy.  The Law of Conservation of Energy is NOT violated.

In some Pulse Motors such as the Liang and Chao devices, no coils nor permanent magnets were used.  Lenz Law was not applicable.

The reason I say this is that you showed using coils for the pulse motors in the DOC file and whenever a coil with a load and a permanent magnet interact, Lenz law manifests. And it is here where your kind answer is missing.  I understand if you cannot include a practical solution which must have been used in case for instance the 225 HP motor from which you wrote it would self-run after the startup   but once you wrote:
We want to benefit the World.  The first group we target are the Over Unity Developers.  We want them to understand the Theory and thus feel more confident in their inventions.
Attached is the updated file from Forever Yuen related to Pulse Motors.
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I think the question of Lenz law elimination is important. Or if it is NOT the elimination of the Lenz law in the output coils, for instance, in case of the 225 HP motor but something else then it is this something else which does not turn out from your kind answer. 

Maybe others see this differently, maybe I am missing something to understand how Lead Out Theory explains this, sorry. 

Thanks for the answers for my other questions.

Best Regards
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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #55 on: July 27, 2007, 04:27:28 PM »

Maybe others see this differently, maybe I am missing something to understand how Lead Out Theory explains this, sorry. 


Best Regards
Gyula

You're not the only one. Judging from the dozens of posts and the lack of solid answers other than everything in life is based on LEAD OUT theory, CIA conspiracy and UFO-logy, I believe Harry Porter is real!

btw, do look at Joseph Newman's stuff which ia completely verifiable, shown to the public and 'denied' by the USPTO patent office. No conspiracy theory here and no Crap Out stuff either!

cheers
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« Reply #56 on: July 27, 2007, 05:03:16 PM »
Part 1 ? Lenz Law in the case of the Liang and Chao Pulse Motors.

Dear Gyula,

I believe your question is: is the Lenz?s Law applicable in the case of the Pulse Motor?  From the wikipedia website: Lenz?s Law is defined as:

For a current induced in a conductor, the current flows in such a direction that its own magnetic field opposes the change that produced it.

In my explanation, I first pointed out that in the Liang and Chao Pulse Motor, there were NO coils and NO permanent magnets.  Both these devices had Hall Effect ICs. The electric current is used to drive these programmable ICs.  The result is rotation of the inner cylinder.  I do not think that Lenz?s Law is applicable in these two devices as no voltage and no current are generated.

End of Part 1
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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #57 on: July 27, 2007, 05:07:49 PM »
Part 2 ? Lenz Law in the case of the 225 HP Pulse Motors

In the 225 HP Pulse Motor, let us assume
(1)   The rotor permanent magnets (R1 to Rn) all have N poles facing outside. 
(2)   The rotation is in one direction ? clockwise.
(3)   An electromagnet (coil S1) will have Pulse Current making it a magnet with N pole facing inwards.  Only one coil is used in the explanation. 
(4)   Initially the N-N repulsion between S1 and R1 will cause the inner cylinder to rotate in the clockwise direction.
(5)   Because of the Pulsing Current in (3), the N pole of S1 will have varying strength. 
(6)   When R2 approaches S1, the N-N replusion should have a force moving the inner cylinder in the anti-clockwise direction.  However, the N pole of S1 is weaker at this moment.  R2 can then rotate just pass S1 because of the momentum.
(7)   N pole of S1 becomes strong because of the Pulse, the N-N replusion will cause the inner cylinder to rotate in the clockwise direction ( similar to Step 4).
(8 )   Steps 4 to 7 repeats with the Pulsing matching the rotational speed.

This Pulsed Rotation already Leads Out electron motion energy.  The total energy in the system at this point is the sum of the Pulse Energy + the Lead Out electon motion energy. Some of this energy can be collected via a collector coil. Or this energy can be collected via the central rotating axle.

The collector coil will slow down the rotation of the inner cylinder but the Pulse Current will accelerate it again.  Since the collected energy (Output) is the sum of the Pulse energy PLUS the Lead Out energy, the 225 HP is an over unity device.  However, it does NOT violate the Law of Conservation of Energy.  Lenz?s Law may be used but it does not explain the Lead Out energy.

Lawrence Tseung
Lack of Interactive Conversation on the Internet Leads Out frustration and repeatition of the same material.

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« Reply #58 on: July 27, 2007, 05:14:49 PM »
btw, do look at Joseph Newman's stuff which is completely verifiable, shown to the public and 'denied' by the USPTO patent office. No conspiracy theory here and no Crap Out stuff either!


That is why I am working with Joseph Newman et al.  They can use the 'boat in calm water and good sunshine' scenario to overcome the objections from the USPTO patent office. 

We used that strategy successfully with the Chinese patent office.

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« Reply #59 on: July 27, 2007, 06:00:30 PM »
Sorry to burst your bubble Lawrence.  If the USPTO first denied Newman's patents based on 'lack of technical description' or maybe even out of  'strategic interest' , they are not likely to consider your "boat in calm water" or "good(or bad) sunshine" poetic explanation. Btw, I've seen your 'broad' claims for your patent. The USPTO will never grant claims like these! The USPTO is NOT the Chinese patent office.

Try understanding the technicalities of what is patentable and what is not and specifically the mandatory requirements of USC codes. I seriously don't think Joseph Newman (nor Steorn) need your theories to help them in their patent applications. No offence.

Another 'issue' I have with all your propaganda has to do with trying to impress the world how wonderful these very smart Chinese scientist in their ivory tower universities are doing such a great job and how much the Chinese Goverment is spending on General magnetics etc. etc. Please, spare us all these technicalities. First, clean up all these crappy factories that spill out enough sulphur to kill tens of thousands of Chinese citizens and eject enough pollutants into the air that I don't have to breathe your polluted air in California! Also, Mr. wang may be the GM of General Magnetics and I do wish him success in his UFO research, but please remember too that that is the same Goverment that executed the head of the Ministry of Food(?) for bribery? Maybe they'll go after Mr. Wang's head if that Nanjing flying saucer was not of Chinese design? Maybe it belonged to Harry Porter?

To continually extolling the greatness of the Chinese Research without truly understanding,  perhaps other research institutions and certainly the US Military may be light years ahead of their research is simply naive.

Enough of politics. This is not the forum for such discussions. People here want to experiment OU (practical) and few are interested in Leading In or Leading Out theories. Practical solutions which can be built, tested, explained and entirely reproducible.

cheers
chrisC

 

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