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Author Topic: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory  (Read 1731089 times)

Offline Paul-R

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #150 on: August 17, 2007, 06:12:09 PM »
If I go to:
http://www.sipo.gov.cn/sipo_English/
and  put "Cosmic gravity energy acceleration motor vehicle" in the Title Box,
I get to an abstract which adds nothing. I am bewildered. I shall go and have
a cup of tea.
Paul.

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #151 on: August 17, 2007, 06:17:42 PM »
As I warned...following anything lead out by Mr. Tseung results in only extended chasing of wild geese.  No actual information is ever imparted; only wild claims and unintelligible references...enjoy your tea!

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #152 on: August 17, 2007, 09:46:44 PM »
I am bewildered. I shall go and have a cup of tea.

It's sad to see a person who thinks making a cup of tea is a noteworthy activity.

There is only 1 representative talking about the Chinese overunty machines. Lawrence should not disclose things he doesn't own. I know he wants to but he cant. If you are looking to donate your life's work I will be happy to take. For free of course. Don't forget to document everything also. ROFL Just keep looking Paul! I read your postings you are doing great.

here is my page

do remember to have fun. ;)

http://magnetmotor.go-here.nl

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #152 on: August 17, 2007, 09:46:44 PM »
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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #153 on: August 18, 2007, 02:03:50 AM »
I think that you and all other inventors worldwide are wrong,when you/they
think that there has to be an explanation from where the energy comes !

Patent rights are not physics related,patent rights are commerce oriented !

You/they have to serve a functional model, which demonstrate for itselves the principle
and the material configuration listing, that is all as request !

Physical processes are not patentable and for this area unimportant !

S
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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #154 on: August 18, 2007, 02:49:32 AM »
       Langenscheidt-service translation:
       German/Chinese: 1 line(up to 55 digits) for 3,4 Euros ! 
US$2000 on that service would be about 435 lines worth, and that's pretending a line won't have more than 55 characters.
It seems that being literate in Chinese is expensive!

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #155 on: August 18, 2007, 12:39:07 PM »
My understanding of the Liang Machine

1. It is basically a pulsed rotation device. In the Lee- Tseung Theory, pulse rotation can lead out gravitational energy.

2. It uses intelligent chips to achieve the pulse rotation. These intelligent chips can be programmed to exhibit magnetic north pole, south pole or no pole at all.

3. The energy that can be lead out depends on the rate of rotation, the number of intelligent chips, the diameter and the mass of the rotating cylinder, the proximity of the intelligent chips, etc.

4. It uses only gravitational energy because when we tilt the axle from horizontal to vertical we get reduce energy output.

5. Liang got his China patent even though he stated that his machine was a perpetual device because he had working demonstration prototype.

6. The reason for his not demonstrating his prototype on December 2004 was the lawsuit from unhappy investors. I believe that demonstration could be very successful because Professor Woo, a well respected scientist (who helps to develop the first Chinese atomic bomb) examined the working prototype.

7. Mr. Chao overcame the hill- climbing drawback of the Liang car with banks of batteries. His car was certified officially by the Chinese authority. The rating was 8.60 kilowatt hour per one hundred kilometers. This is probably the best official record for all electric cars.

8. According to Lee Cheung Kin who spent a week working with Mr. Chao, that rating can even be better (zero or negative). Negative means the car can generate extra energy for other appliances.

9. The only explanation is that the Laing or Chao Car used the Lead Out gravitational energy. Both cars confirmed the correctness of the Lee ? Tseung Theory. 

10. The engine can be use as a pure electricity generator. It will require a battery to power the intelligent chips and to get the stating motor to rotate the cylinder to the designed speed. I believe this is being implemented. In some of the past implementation, the engine burned after a few days. Tseung explained that there must be a monitoring and control mechanism to adjust the output power when the external load changes.

11. I believe I understand the theory. I don ? t know the exact intelligent chips used, their arrangement and programming. I can wait to buy a Liang or Chao car to disassemble and examining it legally later.

I shall be willing to discuss this more in this forum. I shall also willing to participate in a team to understand or even replicate the engine.     ;D ;D

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #156 on: August 18, 2007, 05:23:22 PM »
I am bewildered. I shall go and have a cup of tea.

It's sad to see a person who thinks making a cup of tea is a noteworthy activity.

There is only 1 representative talking about the Chinese overunty machines. Lawrence should not disclose things he doesn't own.....
I am not asking him to donate his kidneys. I am asking him to provide
or point to a translation of a PUBLISHED patent. If the patent had been
filed in the US or EPO, all would be OK. But the Chinese system is
obscure beyond measurement. Am I asking too much?
Paul.

P.S. The text in Chinese would be a start (with drawings)

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Offline ltseung888

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #157 on: August 19, 2007, 12:03:00 AM »

I am not asking him to donate his kidneys. I am asking him to provide
or point to a translation of a PUBLISHED patent. If the patent had been
filed in the US or EPO, all would be OK. But the Chinese system is
obscure beyond measurement. Am I asking too much?
Paul.

P.S. The text in Chinese would be a start (with drawings)

Dear Paul-R,

Your request is certainly reasonable.  I have the same difficulty with the many Japanese Patents I am interested in.  Fortunately, the wife of Lee Cheung kin speaks and writes fluent Janpanese.  I can get layman translations from her.

Attached is the zipped 7 page PUBLISHED patent document of the Liang invention.  Each Page is in .tif format with diagrams.  Ms. Forever Yuen will try to translate them in the next few days.

Regards,
Lawrence Tseung

Reasonable request Leads Out solid information

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #158 on: August 19, 2007, 12:54:02 AM »

I am not asking him to donate his kidneys. I am asking him to provide
or point to a translation of a PUBLISHED patent. If the patent had been
filed in the US or EPO, all would be OK. But the Chinese system is
obscure beyond measurement. Am I asking too much?
Paul.

P.S. The text in Chinese would be a start (with drawings)

Dear Paul-R,

Your request is certainly reasonable.  I have the same difficulty with the many Japanese Patents I am interested in.  Fortunately, the wife of Lee Cheung kin speaks and writes fluent Janpanese.  I can get layman translations from her.

Attached is the zipped 7 page PUBLISHED patent document of the Liang invention.  Each Page is in .tif format with diagrams.  Ms. Forever Yuen will try to translate them in the next few days.

Regards,
Lawrence Tseung

Reasonable request Leads Out solid information

I really hope the translation provides more useful information.  I've been through the US patent process a few times and I can't imagine that the diagrams in this document would make the standard.  The diagrams really show nothing about the generator.  Unless this patent isn't for the generator technology itself, but for a generator device which can operate on a table and in multiple types of transport vehicles which using some mounting mechanism (figure 1). 

Figure 1 with what I call the "mounting mechanism" is really the only useful diagram.  In the US, the diagrams (or schematics) and flowcharts  are the primary source of information which someone who is skilled in the art would be able to use to construct an invention.  The text of the invention description is secondary. 

Interesting to see the results of the translation.  Very revealing (at least to me) of how the patent systems are different.

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #159 on: August 19, 2007, 12:58:07 AM »
Or perhaps, it shows how this generator could be used as a portable battery charger for electric vehicles.  Either way, it doesn't diagram the components of the generator itself. 

Ahh, no need to be impatient, time will tell.  I do very much appreciate the document being posted!    ;D

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #160 on: August 19, 2007, 01:15:26 AM »
Or perhaps, it shows how this generator could be used as a portable battery charger for electric vehicles.  Either way, it doesn't diagram the components of the generator itself. 
Ahh, no need to be impatient, time will tell.  I do very much appreciate the document being posted!    ;D
It's nice of Lawrence to post it and even nicer of Forever to have a go at translating it. Thank you both.
I wonder if China's Patent Office did "reserve" some information for themselves, namely the device diagrams?

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #161 on: August 19, 2007, 02:17:02 AM »
Brushless motor, IC controller.
No secret.
HardDisk Motor.
Google Brushless motor

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #162 on: August 19, 2007, 03:05:52 PM »
The 18 Published China patents or patent applications  by Dr. Liang.

We are focusing on the first one.  For those who want a more thorough insight into Dr. Liang and his patents, knowledge of all of them may be useful.

专利名称 Title of Invention
1    01123526.8     Ã¥Â®â€¡Ã¥Â®â„¢Ã¥Â¼â€¢Ã¥Å â€ºÃ¨Æ’½åŠ é€Ÿç”µåŠ¨æœºè½¦è¾†  Cosmic Energy Car
2    200510132560.3     Ã¥Â¼â€¢Ã¥Å â€ºÃ¨Æ’½å‘电机  Cosmic Energy Electricity Generator
3    200510135191.3     Ã¥Â¼â€¢Ã¥Å â€ºÃ¨Æ’½å‘电机列车  Cosmic Energy Car A
4    200610098923.0     Ã¥Â¼â€¢Ã¥Å â€ºÃ¨Æ’½ç”µåŠ›æ‹–拉机  Cosmic Energy Tractor
5    200610091059.1     Ã¥Å“°çƒç”µç£åœºè€¦åˆå‘电的气垫飞翼船  Cosmic Energy Hoovercraft
6    200610098979.6     Ã¥Å“°ç£è€¦åˆå‘电的单人低空安全飞行器  Cosmic Energy Flying Machine for low attitude flight
7    200610000638.0     Ã¨Å â€šÃ¨Æ’½ã€æ— æ±¡æŸ“、电力摩托车  Pollution free electric bike
8    200610002034.X     Ã¦â€” ç”µæ¶²ã€æ— æ±¡æŸ“、免维护的固体超容高能?储电器?
Pollution free Electricity Storage device
9    200610098922.6     Ã¥Å“°ç£è€¦åˆå‘电的轮船  Cosmic Energy boat
10    200610007575.1     Ã¥Å“°å¿ƒå¼•åŠ›åŠ é€Ÿè¿åŠ¨åŠ¿èƒ½è½¬æ¢ä¸ºæœºæ¢°èƒ½è£…ç½®(引力发动机)  Cosmic Energy Conversion device
11    200610057926.X     Ã¥Â¼â€¢Ã¥Å â€ºÃ¨Æ’½å‘电机轿车  Cosmic Energy Car 3
12    200610150142.1     Ã¥Â¼â€¢Ã¥Å â€ºÃ¨Æ’½å·¥ç¨‹æœºæ¢°è½¦  Cosmic Energy truck
13    200610150141.7     Ã¤ÂºÂ¤Ã©â‚¬Å¡Ã¥Â·Â¥Ã¥â€¦Â·Ã§Å¡â€žÃ§Â¼â€œÃ¥â€ Â²Ã¥Â®â€°Ã¥â€¦Â¨Ã¦Â¤â€¦  Safty seat in vehicles
14    200610150143.6     Ã¤Â¸ÂÃ¥â€¡ÂºÃ¨Â½Â¨Ã£â‚¬ÂÃ¤Â¸ÂÃ§Â¿Â»Ã¥â‚¬â€™Ã§Å¡â€žÃ©Â«ËœÃ©â‚¬Å¸Ã¥Â®â€°Ã¥â€¦Â¨Ã¤ÂºÂ¤Ã©â‚¬Å¡Ã¥Â·Â¥Ã¥â€¦Â·  High speed transport devices
15    200610078729.6     Ã¥Å“°çƒç”µç£åœºè€¦åˆå‘电机  Cosmic Energy Electricity Generator 1
16    200610000603.7     Ã¥Â®â€¡Ã¥Â®â„¢Ã¥Â¼â€¢Ã¥Å â€ºÃ¨Æ’½ç”µåŠ›é£žè‰‡  Cosmic Energy Flying Saucer
17    200610002125.3     Ã¥Â¼â€¢Ã¥Å â€ºÃ¥Ââ€˜Ã§â€ÂµÃ§Å¡â€žÃ¥Å¸Å½Ã¥Â¸â€šÃ¥ÂºÅ¸Ã¥Â¼Æ’物资源化综合处理的创新设备与设施  Cosmic Energy Waste disposal system
18    200330102792.6     Ã¥Å Â¨Ã¥Å â€ºÃ¦Å“º  Cosmic Energy Motor

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #163 on: August 19, 2007, 10:00:36 PM »
China Patents or Patent Applications of Tseung et al

http://search.sipo.gov.cn/sipo/zljs/hyjs-jieguo.jsp

专利名称 
1    200510054958.X     Ã©â‚¬Å¡Ã¨Â¿â€¡Ã¦Å’¯åŠ¨èŽ·å–能量的方法及系统  Lead Out Energy via vibrations
2    (Not relevant)
3    200510101434.1     Ã¤Â»Å½Ã¨Æ’½é‡åœºæŠ½å–能量的方法及系统  The Method and Apparatus to Lead Out Energy from Energy Fields
4    200510102187.7     Ã¤Â»Å½Ã©Ââ„¢Ã¦â‚¬ÂÃ§Â©ÂºÃ¦Â°â€Ã¤Â¸Â­Ã¦Å Â½Ã¥Ââ€“能量的方法及系统  The Method and Apparatus to Lead Out Energy from Still Air
5    200510120813.5     Ã¥Ë†Â©Ã§â€Â¨Ã§Â£ÂÃ¥Å“ºæˆ–电子场作为动力的方法及使用该方法的系统  The Method and Apparatus of using magnetic or electric fields to provide thrust (Flying Saucer)

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #164 on: August 20, 2007, 12:11:58 AM »
Brushless motor, IC controller.
No secret.
HardDisk Motor.
Google Brushless motor

@brnbrade

I'm guessing you've concluded this from Lawrence's description, not the patent document, correct?  (unless you can read Chinese or could see more from those patent figures than I could). Brushless motors have been around a long time, so if that is what has been described, then it is very unlikely there would be a valid patent claim.  On the other hand, it could be there was some sort of improvement to a standard brushless design that somehow increases efficiency using gravity. 

From the previous description provided by Lawrence, I cannot see how a brushless motor or anything similar could be described as powered by gravity. An enhancement to the standard brushless to increase efficiency is one thing, running completely from gravity force is something else. 

Hopefully more information will be forthcoming.

Regards,
jeffc

 

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