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Author Topic: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory  (Read 1732845 times)

Offline ltseung888

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #135 on: August 16, 2007, 02:59:37 AM »
More information on the use of ICs to pulse rotate  the Cylinder.

(1) The Intelligent Chips (ICs) can be programmed to exhibit property of magnetic North Pole, South Pole or No Poles.

(2) One set of ICs is on the rotating cylinder.  Another set is on the non-rotating cylinder. Their interaction pulse rotates the cylinder.

(3) The Rotating Cylinder will be driven to a certain designed speed by a separate starter motor.

(4) We are absolutely certain that gravitational energy is Lead Out because the engine works best on level road or surface.

(5) Tilling the axle from the horizontal to the vertical will reduce the power output.  When the axle is at the vertical position, the output power is close to zero.

(6) The amount of power generated depends on the following factors:
      - speed of rotation
      - the pulse rate (programable)
      - the number of ICs (several hundred used)
      - Diameter and weight of the Cylinder

(7) There is a sensor to detect the external load and adjust the program accordingly. (Some ICs can be programmed to No Pole)

(8) The Published Data from Liang is that a 28Kg engine could generate 188 Horse Power.  (See picture in section 4.3 of the previous mentioned TPU theory1-8.doc)

(9) In the Liang demonstration, once the engine started, the battery was disconnected.  The engine kept on running.

(10) Lee Cheung Kin, who spent a week working with Chao, was convinced that the Chao engine is similar to the Liang engine in principle.  The Chao factory and the Liang laboratory are in the same small town.

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #135 on: August 16, 2007, 02:59:37 AM »

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #136 on: August 16, 2007, 03:25:17 AM »
Are these IC in reality MIC, magnetic -integrated- transistors,
with Bloch/Weiss  domain/wall controle ?

S
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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #137 on: August 16, 2007, 03:37:26 AM »
hmmmm!!!

brushless motor ? Ics Controller...

sounds nice

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #137 on: August 16, 2007, 03:37:26 AM »
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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #138 on: August 16, 2007, 04:08:06 AM »
I think that by ICs he means Intelligent Chips, according to the .doc file he posted earlier.
I don't know what kind of devices are those though. Help, someone? ???

These Intelligent Chips can be programmed to show the effect of North Pole, South Pole or No Pole.  They are usually grouped together with the Hall Effect ICs.

In the Liang China Patent, he quoted China IC 3001 and IC 3008 as examples.  He used seven hundred of each of these if I remember the numbers correctly from his meeting.

I do not know whether there is an equivalent outside China.

Lawrence Tseung
Studying the details of the Published Patents Lead Out confidence in the invention.  Meeting the inventor in person is even better.  Driving the actual car is best.

Please post a link to a data sheet or tell us the manufacturer of these Chinese ICs.  I don't believe they exist.

Also, am I understanding that 700 of these ICs were sufficient to power an automobile?
Without using any electromagnets or other motors whatsoever...just these ICs?

Thank you

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #139 on: August 16, 2007, 04:23:56 AM »
hmmmm!!!

brushless motor ? Ics Controller...

sounds nice

Do you just automatically believe in everything, Brnbrade?

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #139 on: August 16, 2007, 04:23:56 AM »
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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #140 on: August 16, 2007, 05:47:26 AM »
Google Translator gives us:

Cosmic gravitational vehicles can be perpetual motion machine, a stainless-steel cylinder, .....

Mr Tseung:
This is not disclosing. Nothing is revealed. I believe that you and your colleagues may not understand the nature and purpose of the patent system.


My US Patent attorney told me "Patent documents are specialized documents.  Try to save money using a translator package will land you in trouble."  His charge is USD$2,000 per hour.

In particular, the abstract is not supposed to contain the technical details.  In Patent Legal Battles, the claims are the vital parts.  The description and diagrams must support the claims.

Thus I read the Liang Patent and extracted the information myself.  See
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2794.msg44359.html#msg44359.

The key concept is section 4.3 of that attached document.

Lee Cheung Kin and I gave our patent rights to the Chinese Government and People.  We intend to benefit the World.  We are old and do not want to spend our golden year in Patent Law Courts.

I shall repost some of the juicy discussions on Cosmic Energy Patents later.

Lawrence Tseung
Patent Documents Lead Out juicy fees for the Patent Attorneys.

Not understanding the principles of the U.S Patent Office is one thing, wildly quoting a $US 2000 per hr as an excuse not to do things right shows how little you really know about patents. Regarding your giving the rights of your patent/s to the Chinese Goverment etc, it's not exactly like Tesla patents and seriously with the wishy washy claims in your supposedly quality patents, I don't think too many Goverments or individuals would lose sleep over the rights to these so called patents!

Maybe at your 'old' age you should stop writing poetry and spend more time with your grandchildren instead of coughing out nonsense in this forum.

Sincerely
chrisC

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #141 on: August 16, 2007, 11:15:25 AM »
Refer to Describing the New Order thread in:

http://forum.go-here.nl/viewtopic.php?t=13&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Describing the New Order - Insult Training  

Professor A: "Joseph Newman got much insult in USA. Dr. Liang Sing Yan received something similar in China. Tseung also received insults on the Internet. Comparing the three, Tseung got off lightly."

Professor B: "When one wants to change the Order of the World, there are established Interests who feel threatened. They or their supporters will react to defend such interests. Insult is a very mild form. In the earlier centuries, such acts may be treated as witchcraft or treason. In China, the emperors may behead you, your family and your relatives. Some even beheaded the pupils of the offenders."

Professor C: "In Roman Empire times, you might be crucified. Jesus Christ was a good example. He preached Peace but the authorities feared his influence on the masses. Lee and Tseung preached their Lead Out theory and their Flying Saucers. That would create a New Order. They are lucky to be alive."

Professor A: "Looks like all Over Unity Developers are advised to take a course in how to take and endure insults. They must not lose heart. There are professional debunkers out there. The CIA or the Like fooling Tseung is a solid example."

Lawrence Tseung
Developing Cosmic Energy Leads Out insults.
« Last Edit: August 16, 2007, 12:54:49 PM by ltseung888 »

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #141 on: August 16, 2007, 11:15:25 AM »
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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #142 on: August 16, 2007, 03:47:59 PM »
Dear Mr. Tseung,

Forget the insults. They do not matter; like water off a duck's back.

The real problem for us is that the Chinese patent system is very
difficult to deal with. The patent number you quoted was not recognised.
I am sure it exists; I cannot find anything from that web site.

If you want to help us replicate, then we need the claims in English,
along with the rest of the document and the drawings. That would
be very helpful.
Paul.

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #143 on: August 16, 2007, 09:56:28 PM »
Dear Mr. Tseung,

Forget the insults. They do not matter; like water off a duck's back.

The real problem for us is that the Chinese patent system is very
difficult to deal with. The patent number you quoted was not recognised.
I am sure it exists; I cannot find anything from that web site.

If you want to help us replicate, then we need the claims in English,
along with the rest of the document and the drawings. That would
be very helpful.
Paul.

Dear Paul,

I believe there is strong interest in understanding and possibly replicating the Intelligent Chip (IC) pulse rotate technology  or the Dr. Liang invention.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2794.msg44359.html#msg44359

You used Google to translate the abstract and the result was far from satisfactory.  The professional cost estimate on properly translating that particular patent from Chinese into English was US$20,000.  The wording of the Claims must be exact as the legal challenge will be related to those Claims.  The description and diagrams are to justify the claims.

Please note that the Dr. Liang patent rights belongs to Dr. Liang.  My interest is:

(1) Apply the Lee-Tseung theory to help him remove the roadblock  of "where does the energy come from?".

(2) Suggest improvement on his invention.  We suggested the 5th generation - being researched at Tsing Hua University in Beijing, China (and many other top-secret locations?).

(3) Help to promote him similar to promoting Mr. Wang Shum Ho.  We ran into some difficulties in this aspect.  Wang was willing to share his information with us and agreed to our presenting them on the Internet.  Dr. Liang wanted to keep his information confidential.  The only information allowed on the Internet are the published Patent Information.

Since I do not have USD20,000 to spend on a proper translation of that patent, I shall pass that task to the Forum Members (hoping one of them is a patent attorney skilled in such translations.)

However, I do not mind doing a scientist/layman's interpretation of the patent.  Please do NOT treat that layman translation as the correct legal wording document.  It is for information purposes.  We want to benefit the World.

Lawrence Tseung
Translation of Patent Leads Out Cry for Help from Professionals

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #143 on: August 16, 2007, 09:56:28 PM »
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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #144 on: August 17, 2007, 04:09:26 AM »
Additional information on the Liang Patent (Part 1)

China Patent Database website:
http://211.157.104.66/sipo/zljs/default.htm

Number:  01123526.8

Application/priority Date: 2001.07.30

Inventor: Liang Sing Yan 梁星人

Number of Pages: 7

Claim (Layman Interpretation)
A car (engine) using Attraction Forces of the Universe (gravitational energy), the characteristics are:
(1)   On the two sides of a steel cylinder are intelligent chips and integrated circuits (to control and pulse rotate the cylinder)
(2)   The center of the cylinder has an axle
(3)   The axle is attached to (drive) an external load
(4)   There is a starting motor (which can be removed after rotational speed achieved)
(5)   The number intelligent chips and integrated circuits can be varied. (programmed to take part in the pulse rotation)

*** DO NOT use the above translation as LEGAL document.  The parts in (?) were added by me to clarify the translation.

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #145 on: August 17, 2007, 09:33:43 AM »
Building the Core Team to understand and/or replicate the Liang Engine

Brainstorm result between Forever Yuen and Lawrence Tseung:

(1)   Need Intelligent Chip and Integrated Circuit experts to select and program. They will be the technical brain at this stage.  Without these experts, the project cannot be started.
(2)   Need patent experts (preferably patent attorneys) to correctly interpret the China Patent information.  Apparently, Dr. Liang did not apply for Patents outside China.  We need to understand the legal and moral implications.
(3)   Need good Public Relationship (PR) persons to feed information to this Forum and others on the Internet.  We expect insults, insults and insults.  Some insults may come from professional debunkers.  (Tseung plans to use this forum and http://forum.go-here.nl where he has moderator privileges.)
(4)   The initial funding is likely to come from the pockets of the Volunteers and/or strong supporters.  We do not want to be accused as fraud at this stage.  We need to select a good location for the brains mentioned in (1).
(5)   Need manufacturing facilities to produce the Cylinders and Axle.  One is the Rotating Cylinder with one set of ICs and connected to the Axle.  The other is the non-rotating Cylinder to contain the other set of ICs.  The closer the cylinders, the stronger will be the magnetic forces.
(6)   Need starting motor to get the inner Cylinder to the designed speed.
(7)   Need test equipment to check input power, output power and/or torque.
(8)   Need sensing equipment to determine external load and adjust the Input Power (e.g. vary number of ICs involved in pulse rotation) accordingly.
(9)   May have a battery always connected and recharged by output similar to the battery in a car.  The battery will drive the ICs.  (or the battery can be removed to convince the skeptics after starting.)
(10)   May have a constantly running engine to provide electricity. This is effectively a Cosmic Energy Powered Electricity Generator.  Once started, the starting motor can be removed forever.  A few light bulbs may be lighted up to continuously draw some energy to avoid zero external load.
(11)   Need a way to tilt the axle to demonstrate the reduced output power when axle vertical.  This is a very convincing argument that Gravitational Energy is Lead Out.
(12)   The more we talk, the more it appears a University Environment is best.  Or we should get someone with University Connections in the Forum to help.  More than one team is acceptable.

We should ask for Qualified Volunteers from the Forum and ensure that we have the Team to lead the project before starting.  A few qualified experts can guide us better than hundreds of posts from unknown sources. (Most casual participants are likely to wait for the Liang or Chao Car/Generator to hit the Market.)

Please indicate your interest on this thread.  Or if you prefer, email forevermango_118@hotmail.com with your area of expertise and/or qualifications if you wish to participate.

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #145 on: August 17, 2007, 09:33:43 AM »
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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #146 on: August 17, 2007, 03:34:20 PM »
.....
The real problem for us is that the Chinese patent system is very
difficult to deal with. The patent number you quoted was not recognised.
I am sure it exists; I cannot find anything from that web site.

If you want to help us replicate, then we need the claims in English,
along with the rest of the document and the drawings. That would
be very helpful.
Paul.

Hi Paul,

While I do agree with you wrt what you wrote above, those Chinese patents that are AVAILABLE via the internet at EPO do NOT always include drawings or in other cases claims or even descriptions.  Let me show you an example of that of Lawrence: he wrote the Number as 01123526.6 in his last but one mail, where he also gave the link to the Chinese Patent database and wrote the inventor was Liang Sing Yan.

First, here is a link that takes you to the English language user intro page of the same Chinese Patent database Lawrence gave: http://www.sipo.gov.cn/sipo_English/
(You can also reach this if you use the link by Lawrence and click on 'English' icon at the upper right side corner.)
Second, copy and paste the Number 01123526.6  BUT OMIT decimal .6  so that you search for 01123526 only! ALSO, choose Application Number from the choices under it.
Third, by entering these two and click Go, you receive a new page with 1 result:
ID  App. No.   Title
1  01123526   Cosmic gravity energy acceleration motor vehicle   

and you can click on the title to see some data and the patent Abstract in English:

Title: Cosmic gravity energy acceleration motor vehicle
 Application Number:  01123526  Application Date:  2001.07.30
 Publication Number:  1400384  Publication Date:  2003.03.05
 Approval Pub. Date:    Granted Pub. Date:   
 International Classifi-cation:   F03G7/00
 Applicant(s) Name:  Liang Xingren
 Address:  450052
 Inventor(s) Name:   
 Attorney & Agent:   
Abstract
     In a stainless steel cylinder the intelligent chip and intelligent integrated circuit chip and respectively mounted on its two sides, the centre of the stainless steel cylinder is equipped with a shaft connected with external load, said stainless steel cylinder is connected with external load by means of wire, so that said load which does not use any fuel and can start said cosmic gravitational force energy perpetual motion machine can be rotated. Said invention is applicable to various vehicles, and its volume is small, weight is light and it has no pollution.  

Now the important thing is you can see the Publication Number:1400384 and if you place CN as a start: CN1400384 you have got the patent number known by EPO! And if you search this CN1400384 at EPO patent number search you will find it but no any description, claims or drawings except the the same Abstract text, that is all!

Notice that the Applicant Name is Liang Xingren AS known by EPO!  Lawrence knows this as Liang Sing Yan. (Maybe Xing= Sing?)
If you search for the name Liang Xingren at EPO you end up with some 14 very interesting patent titles but no any drawings, in some cases even no description in Chinese either!
For instance I would rather read his thoughts and solutions on this patent: Gravitational energy generator  (Application Number: 200510132560   Publication Number:1841912 i.e. CN1841912)   
It is possible the Chinese Patent Office did not issue the full patent outside of China??

Regards
Gyula





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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #147 on: August 17, 2007, 04:12:55 PM »
" In a stainless steel cylinder the intelligent chip and intelligent integrated circuit chip and respectively mounted on its two sides, the centre of the stainless steel cylinder is equipped with a shaft connected with external load, said stainless steel cylinder is connected with external load by means of wire, so that said load which does not use any fuel and can start said cosmic gravitational force energy perpetual motion machine can be rotated. Said invention is applicable to various vehicles, and its volume is small, weight is light and it has no pollution. "

This is the very kind of total nonsense that seems to appear at the end of every referenced wild-goose-chase Mr. Tseung leads us out into.  Has the world gone berserk?  Is there no bastion of sanity left?  Does the above statement describe anything to anyone in any useful way?  Does it promote understanding of a new technology?  Am I missing something?  Everything Mr. Tseung leads out seems to be totally unsubstantiated tripe, backed up only by his incredible statements.

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« Reply #148 on: August 17, 2007, 04:58:34 PM »

Title: Cosmic gravity energy acceleration motor vehicle
 Application Number:  01123526  Application Date:  2001.07.30
 Publication Number:  1400384  Publication Date:  2003.03.05
 Approval Pub. Date:    Granted Pub. Date:   
 International Classifi-cation:   F03G7/00
 Applicant(s) Name:  Liang Xingren
 Address:  450052
 Inventor(s) Name:   
 Attorney & Agent:   
Abstract
     In a stainless steel cylinder the intelligent chip and intelligent integrated circuit chip and respectively mounted on its two sides, the centre of the stainless steel cylinder is equipped with a shaft connected with external load, said stainless steel cylinder is connected with external load by means of wire, so that said load which does not use any fuel and can start said cosmic gravitational force energy perpetual motion machine can be rotated. Said invention is applicable to various vehicles, and its volume is small, weight is light and it has no pollution.  

Regards
Gyula


Thank you, Gyula.  Looks like I do not have to do the translation myself.  Let the experts do their job.

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Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #149 on: August 17, 2007, 05:57:27 PM »
 
It is possible the Chinese Patent Office did not issue the full patent outside of China??
Regards
Gyula
Yes. But seems to have a "mention" on the EPO here:
http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=CN1400384&F=0&QPN=CN1400384
But since nothing real is actually said, I don't see how it can be a real EPO application.

 

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