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#### ltseung888

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##### The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« on: July 20, 2007, 08:43:44 AM »
I finally found what may be the right place to discuss the Lee-Tseung Lead Out theory.  Here is a brief extract:

Boat in Calm Water and Good Sunshine Scenario

The Patent Offices and the Scientific Community used the Law of Conservation of Energy as a roadblock for perpetual motion machines (PPM) for centuries.  The Law of Conservation of energy essentially says that Energy cannot be created or destroyed.  It can only change from one form to another.  If the source of energy of an invention cannot be identified, the invention is likely to be classified as the impossible PPM.

The Boat in Calm Water and Good Sunshine Scenario is simple.  If a scientist does not know how to use solar energy, he might wrongly apply the Law of Conservation of Energy and advocate the use of muscle energy to move the boat.  If he knows how to use solar energy, he can relax and let the solar panel powered engine move the boat.  The Law of Conservation of Energy is never violated.

All objects are immersed in gravitational fields.  Newton?s Universal Gravitational Law says that two masses attract each other with a force equal to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance.  The Earth rotates around the Sun according to this Law.  All objects, including our bodies, obey this law.  We attract and are attracted by the Sun, the Moon, the Distant Stars and Each Other.  Movement of such objects will have energy exchanges  (Work = Force x displacement).  If an invention uses such gravitational energy, it does not violate the Law of Conservation of Energy.  In the Lee-Tseung PCT Patent Application (PCT/IB2005/000138), we used the term Lead Out.  This source of gravitational energy is non-polluting, available anywhere and almost inexhaustible.

An even more powerful source is the Electron Motion Energy. Electrons are present in all atoms.  They are usually thought as negatively charged particles rotating around the nucleus.  The rotation gives rise to magnetic fields.  The changing of orbits gives rise to electromagnetic waves.  Their clustering gives rise to electrostatic fields.  Their movement along conductors gives rise to electricity that we depend on daily.  Sunlight is just a form of electromagnetic wave.  Radio waves, TV waves are other forms of electromagnetic waves.  We are immersed in such waves.  If an invention uses such immersed Electron Motion Energy, it does not violate the Law of Conservation of Energy.

The Lee-Tseung theory predicts that both gravitational and electron motion energy can be Lead Out via Pulse Force at resonance on oscillating, vibrating, rotating or flux change systems.  The detailed mathematical proof is via the analysis of the simple pendulum during the application of a pulse force.  The pulse force increases the tension of the string and Leads Out gravitation energy.  For a horizontal pulse force, two parts of pulse energy can Lead Out one part of gravitational energy.  The gravitational energy is not created but Lead Out.  This Lead Out energy source has not been understood by the Patent Offices, the Scientists and many Inventors in the past.  Use of this Lead Out energy does not violate the Law of Conservation of Energy.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2621.msg40277.html#msg40277

#### ltseung888

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##### Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2007, 09:32:32 AM »
Phone Conversation with Lee Cheung Kin

Tseung: "I found the right place in the OverUnity.com forum to discuss our theory.  Do you have anything to say?"

Lee: "Tell the participants to be careful with the High Frequency, High Pulse Force at resonance experiments.  Such experiments not only could burn the equipment but also cause fatal accidents."

Tseung smiled: "Most of the participants in the forum has not seen Output equal to Input yet.  They will not believe the danger.  Some may even want to experience the danger.  However, I shall post your warning."

Lee: "Tell them that a correct high pitch note can break many glasses.  The energy used to break the glasses does not come from the note alone.  The note Leads Out the energy inherent in the glass.  That inherent energy is theoretically infinite."

Lawrence Tseung
Resonance Leads Out theoretically Infinite Energy

#### ltseung888

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##### Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2007, 11:21:57 AM »
Fun with explaining the Milkovic Pendulum and Lever  system

Reference on this forum:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1763.msg39646.html#msg39646

Tseung: "Now we can use this thread to explain every known Over Unity device published.  The idea is to check whether the Lee-Tseung Lead Out theory is applicable to all of them.  If so, can the Lee-Tseung Theory suggest improvement to the devices."

Lin: "You are ambitious.  Since you will never build an OU device yourself, there is no harm is making constructive suggestions.  I suppose you would start with the Milkovic Pendulum first."

Tseung smiled: "Our PCT patent information starts with the Pendulum.  So it is logical to start with the Pendulum example.  In slides 5-8 of http://www.energyfromair.com/beijing/taiwan2a.htm, we proved that a horizontal pulse force applied to a pendulum could Lead Out gravitational energy.  To be exact, two parts of horizontal Pulse Energy can Lead Out one part of graviational energy.  Thus Milkovic is Leading Out gravitational energy via Pulsing the Pendulum."

Lin: "Does the lever movement contribute anything?"

Tseung: "Yes.  The Lever Movement can be thought of as a vibrational system.  The Movement of the Pendulum Bob shifts the effective balancing weight.  Thus the Milkovic system can be thought of as two systems complementing each other  - the pendulum and the up-and-down lever.  Milkovic has not completed the feedback loop."

Lin: "Is the Milkovic system an Over Unity Device?"

Tseung: "The Pendulum with a Pulse Force is already an Over Unity Device.  The vibrating Lever with shifting weight is also an Over Unity Device.  The combined system is thus an Over Unity Device."

Lin: "Can some type of pull back string or spring be used to complete the Milkovic feedback loop?  If so, can it run forever and conclusively demonstrate the Lee-Tseung Lead Out theory?"

Tseung smiled: "Theoretically possible.  I shall let someone better at engineering to shine and do the actual experiment."

Lawrence Tseung
Lee-Tseung Theory Leads Out confirmation that the Milkovic system is Over Unity and could produce a mechanical perpetual motion machine/toy.

#### ltseung888

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##### Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2007, 01:38:21 PM »
Limitation of the Milkovic System

Lin: "What is the limitation of the Milkovic System?  Why do you keep referring to it as a toy?"

Lai joined the conversation. "The number of Pulses per second of a pendulum is limited.  It is essentially a function of the length of the string, the Pendulum mass and the gravitational constant.  It cannot be changed easily compared with the rotational speed."

Tseung smiled. "How about the vibration of the Lever?"

Lin quickly interrupted: "Important factors will be the arms of the lever, the weights at the end and the Pulse Force (the shifting pendulum weight.  Am I correct?"

Tseung smiled more. "Looks like I can focus on my fishing."

Lawrence Tseung
Stimulating discussion Leads Out suggestions from many others.

#### tinu

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##### Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2007, 02:35:10 PM »
Hello Mr. Tseung,

I appreciate your intense activity and comprehensive postings on various free energy topics. Yet, I?m having trouble understanding the point of ?lead out? gravitational energy.

In your post above, you make a reference to several slides (5-8) available at http://www.energyfromair.com/beijing/Taiwan2a.files/frame.htm. In slide no.8 specifically it is suggested that 2 units of supplied horizontal energy ?leads out? 1 unit gravitational energy. Well, the classical interpretation is as follows: 3 (not 2) units of initial total energy, at that particular point on the pendulum trajectory you refer to are converted into 2 units of kinetic energy and 1 unit of potential energy. That is correct. But finally, all of the initially supplied energy will be converted into potential energy (in the upper point the pendulum reaches). So, in this point the ratio of ?supplied energy? to potential energy is one. It is always one; I am not aware of any exceptions and a simple pendulum is known not to be an overunity machine. Then, the pendulum starts moving backwards on its trajectory and again the potential energy is converted into kinetic energy. It will cross again the same point you prefer, where the ratio between kinetic and potential energy is 2/1 but frankly, I can not see any energy gain here, but a simple transformation between kinetic and potential energy. On the vertical, it will have again 3 units of kinetic energy (assuming that there are no losses/friction, of course), which was initially provided. So, the 1 unit of gravitational energy you talk about is not ?lead out? but it is paid for, therefore it is not free energy. The logic can be tricky for a freshman but if you want we can discuss on hard equations.

Also, you said in another post above that the "The Pendulum with a Pulse Force is already an Over Unity Device.? I strongly disagree. If one takes two simple pendulums and collide one with the other, this is a pulse force interaction (there are toys made on this principle but they have more than two balls, usually). If it would be overunity (according to your statement), the system would start exceeding a continuous increase in amplitude after each collision. But this is of course, not happening. Please comment also on this issue.

Thanks again,

Tinu

#### ltseung888

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##### Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2007, 05:04:45 PM »

On Slide 8, it is suggested that 2 units of supplied horizontal energy ?leads out? 1 unit gravitational energy.....

You have to understand slides 5-7 fully before you can understand slide 8.  Please read the explanation portion of slides 5-7.  The key points to remember are:

(1) The mathematics is related to the Pendulum at the moment of applying the Horizontal Pulse Force.

(2) During this moment, we can apply the Law of Parallelogram of Forces to analyze the Force and the Energy.

(3) Please follow the mathematics carefully.  The result of the mathematics concludes that (Hori Energy)/(Vert Energy) = 2.014 when the Weight is 60 Kg and the horizontal Pulse is 10 kg.

(4) At Tsing Hua University, I changed the Weight to 80 kg with the Horizontal Pulse still equal to 10 kg.  I then  asked the PhD Students to work out the new angle and the new ratio of (Hori Energy)/(Verti Energy).  They all got the correct answer.

(5) Please try to work out the answer and post it here.  If your answer is correct, we can continue the discussion.  (This is the technique taught at MIT to see if the participants really follow the vigorous mathematical reasoning.)

(6) Mathematics cannot lie.  All top physicists or mathematicians will get the same answer.  We can then have common ground for discussion.

Hope that does not offend you.

Lawrence Tseung
Vigorous Mathematics Leads Out common logic for discussion.

#### ltseung888

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##### Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2007, 09:34:18 PM »
Slides 5-8 to prove that Energy can be Lead Out

Forever: "You are asking the participants in the Forum to do mathematics.  Do you think that they can ever succeed?  I can do it because I had to prepare for the Secondary School Examination in Hong Kong.  The PhD students at Tsing Hua University are the best in China."

Tseung smiled. "Give the Forum participants time.  Give them a chance to read up on Parallelogram of Forces.  Give them opportunity to consult their professors."

Forever: "You mentioned at one time that your posts were targeted for special audiences - the Chinese Government, top academics, other Over Unity Developers and Patent Offices around the World.  Can you simplified them for the average person?"

Tseung laughed: "I have done the best simplification I could.  If you heard the heated discussions in the early days with Professor Woo and Lee Cheung Kin, you would be totally lost.  Even the top physics professors at Harvard University thought that we did double accounting at one time.  Fortunately, mathematics cannot lie.  Once they retraced every step in the mathematics, they became converts."

Forever: "It should be a challenge to see how many days or weeks until some Forum Participants provide the correct answer.  Tell your professor friends not to post the solution."

Lawrence Tseung
Solving the mathematics Leads Out the real scientists

#### chrisC

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##### Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2007, 11:04:24 PM »
Phone Conversation with Lee Cheung Kin

Tseung: "I found the right place in the OverUnity.com forum to discuss our theory.  Do you have anything to say?"

Lee: "Tell the participants to be careful with the High Frequency, High Pulse Force at resonance experiments.  Such experiments not only could burn the equipment but also cause fatal accidents."

Tseung smiled: "Most of the participants in the forum has not seen Output equal to Input yet.  They will not believe the danger.  Some may even want to experience the danger.  However, I shall post your warning."

....

Lawrence Tseung
Resonance Leads Out theoretically Infinite Energy

I'm really happy you're not only putting other people's theories and material into your own TPU write-up but supposedly teaching your partner the importance of not  doing damage to themselves by avoiding resonance! (or is it the other way?). This sure is a good forum for even 'brilliant' theorist!

I believe it won't be much longer before you can Lead us Out to the creation of the Universe.  Can't sleep ... the anticipation is killing me!

All these long winded write up and nobody seems to notice....

cheers
chrisC

#### ltseung888

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##### Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2007, 02:49:12 AM »
Theory of the Simple Gravity Motor  as described in:

http://theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/newclaims/GravityMotor/gravity_motor.htm

In this invention, the Pulse Force comes from the eight hammers.  In one revolution, there are eight Pulses.  The above information describes the construction material, the dimensions etc.  However, it avoided the question of stating how long the rotation lasted.  The one who posted it said:

*****
As I look back at the circumstances relating to the way I received this idea and what has happened since, I am quite sure that it is GOD'S will that such simple exposition of such a device that goes against the supposed "laws" of science is released at this time! I am not the first, I know that. I am not the best, I know that. I am not really much of anything other than a follower of Christ, I KNOW that! This device is not mine but is for anyone that wishes to replicate it.
*****

Sun et al tried to replicate it.  They could not get the same material for the hammer.  The resultant device could rotate for about 3 minutes before stopping.  The hammer was than replaced by falling weights and then falling powders.  The rotation time increased to about 20 minutes.  In Sun's Words -'I became an OU invention addict.'  They have some baby-step successes and hope to market an Over Unity Development Platform toy soon.

Lawrence Tseung
The difficulty in tuning for resonance Leads Out idea of a standard, well-machined Over Unity Development Platform Toy.

#### ltseung888

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##### Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2007, 04:51:03 AM »
Discussion of the Simple Gravity Motor

Lin: "How is the Simple Gravity Motor related to the Bessler Wheel?"

Lai: "Both are mechanical devices.  By the way, I believe ltseung888 was banned from posting in the http://www.besslerwheel.com forum.  There were over 300 postings in the Fraud section under the title 'Cosmic Energy Electricity Generators'. Tseung, what is your reaction?"

Tseung laughed. "When you use the forum of someone else to post, you are subjected to their rules.  If they do not like your information, or if they were told by the CIA or the Like, they can ban you.  I was surprised that they did not delete the posts totally.  That would help me in the future in claiming 'I told you so'.  The Steorn Forum did not ban me totally but they sunk my threads."

Lin giggled: "You have some enemies out there.  What are you going to do?"

Lai: "One cannot please all the people all the time.  Tseung's main target audience are the Chinese Officials.  These Officials reacted after seeing the Wang Device in rotation on January 15, 2007.  Wang became a Vice President of a RMB\$13 billion Company.  The posts do have value."

Tseung smiled. "I believe I stated in a Besslerwheel.com post - there must be a feedback mechanism.  The simple gravity wheel has a very weak feedback mechanism.  It may need luck and perfect tuning to work."

Sun interrupted. "That is why we are interested in a well-machined platform toy so that there is no excuse of the wrong material, the inexact shape, the varying magnetic strength etc.  It will be a standard equipment in all schools.  It will also be an educational toy in every affluent home."

Lai laughed. "Tseung talks about Benefiting the World.  Sun, on the other hand, talks about money.  I hope both of you achieve your goals."

Lin giggled more and murmured. "Tseung thinks that he has achieved his goal already.  He is just helping others shine."

Lawrence Tseung
The Simple Gravity Motor is not simple.  It Leads Out talk of well-machined parts to achieve resonance.

#### ltseung888

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##### Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2007, 08:15:34 AM »
The Energy By Motion (EBM) Machine from Hungary:

Quote from http://gammamanager.blogspot.com/search?q=china

Saturday, October 21, 2006
Brief historical summary of the EBM Units: 1992-2006

1. Number of EBM Units manufactured, tested and operated since 1992 to 2006, for which log-books are available:
(a) BB-LEGO: 4 units
(b) C 4/4 1 unit
(c) 720 unit: 2 units
(d) Total No. of EBM Units: 7 units

Note: Prior to 1992, 108 prototype units were tested and discarded!

2. Number of logged operating hours by the above 7 EBM Units since 1992: over 100,000 hours!

3. (a) In 2001, the manufacturing order for the 1st commercial unit was cancelled to correct design errors in the commercial size EBM Units.
(b) Between 2002 and 2006 fourteen (14) commercial size units were designed, ranging from 1.5 MWe to 225 MWe in sizes;
(c) In 2005 and 2006, cost of manufacturing, installations and operations were obtained from vendors to price out and to establish tariff rates: cents/kWHe (electric) and cents/kWHh (heating energy);

4. First 1.5 MWe and 3.0 MWe EBM Units are negotiated for Russia and Canada under contract in 2006, to be commissioned in mid 2008, together with the larger 300 MWe EBM Plant for China (to be commissioned in 2009);

#### ltseung888

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##### Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2007, 08:40:08 AM »
Theory behind the EBM Machine

*****
The self-reliant EBM plant uses its own self-generated electromagnetic fuel. The research and development work of this hi-tech technology began in 1980 in four laboratories in Toronto, Houston, London and in Budapest, managed for ELECTRO ERG LIMITED (EEL) by the GAMMA Group, under Professor L. I. Szab's leadership.
*****

Lin: "Tseung, What is your opinion on the Hungarian EBM machine?  They opened their laboratory to Investors and Commercial Evaluators.  They also claimed that China placed an order to have plant commissionable in 2009."

Lai: "They claimed the EBM plant used its own electromagnetic flux as fuel.  Is that similar to your Cosmic Energy Electricity Generators?"

Tseung smiled. "When the news first hit the Internet, Lee Cheung Kin and I were in China.  We tried to do a double check to see whether a Chinese Organization placed an order for the EBM machine.  The group we spoke to mentioned that they indeed sent people to Hungary.  The group asked for our opinion on whether the EBM Machine is a hoax."

Lin: "I can guess the answer.  Theoretically possible.  The device is some type of rotation of magnets and/or electromagnets in magnetic fields.  Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out."

Tseung smiled. "You can read my mind.  That Company tried 108 failed configurations before succeeding.  The chance of them getting one or more working prototypes is good.  They might not know the Lee-Tseung Lead Out theory at that time.  If they knew, they might have even better prototypes."

Lawrence Tseung
The EBM machines that can be demonstrated now Lead Out confirmation that Over Unity Devices are Certainties.

#### ltseung888

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##### Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2007, 10:00:27 AM »
Theory Behind the EBM Machine

Chan: "I know that you have not seen or touched an actual EBM machine.  I know that you have not got to Budapest.  I know that you have not read the Professor L. I. Szab's theory.  How can you be sure  that the EBM machine works according to the Lee-Tseung Lead Out theory."

Lai: "After Newton wrote his Laws of Motion, did he need to examine every machine on this Planet?"

Lin: "Wow.  Are you implying that Lee-Tseung will have the same scientific status as Newton?  Before you answer that, I would like to raise a stupid scientifc question.  Will the Lead Out gravitational or electron motion energy be exhausted?  Would that be related to the Creation and Evolution of the Universe?"

Lai: "From Einstein's equation, we know mass and energy are interchangeable.  You must have heard of Black Holes that eat up mass and energy without a trace.  You must have heard of the Big Bang theory and the Expanding Universe.  I am merging the above and postulate that the Universe is in a dynamic state - expanding via the Big Bang and contracting via the Black Hole.  Mass is considered a form of Energy."

Lin: "That means the gravitational and electron motion energies will never exhaust.  They fluctuate together with the Universe!"

Tseung laughed.  "Good postulating.  I can enjoy my fishing."

Lawrence Tseung
Origins of Cosmic Energy Leads Out Fluctuating Theory of the Universe.

#### ltseung888

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##### Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2007, 12:30:08 PM »
Improving the Milkovic Pendulum System

Tseung: "I just thought of a simple way to improve the Milkovic System and probably all gravity energy  machines."

Lee: "Let us hear it."

Tseung: "If we can increase the effective gravitational constant G, we can increase the frequency of the oscillation and hence the efficiency of the system.  A simple improvement to the Milkovic System is to use magnets as pendulum and put external magnets below it to increase the frequency of oscillation."

Lee: "This is just the Forever Experiment.  It is bound to work."

Tseung: "Such an improvement may also help in providing Pulse Force to the pendulum.  One or more coils can attract or repel the Pendulum to provide the Pulse Force to Lead Out the increased effective gravitational energy."

Lee: "Simple but brilliant.  Post it and make sure that the Milkovic et al know about it.  Let them do the experiments."

Tseung: "Sure.  We old folks never do experiments.  Let the young ones shine."

Lawrence Tseung
Adding the Forever Yuen Experimental set up to the Milkovic System Leads Out much higher efficiency and possibility of a PPM demonstration.

#### gyulasun

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##### Re: The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2007, 05:34:19 PM »
Improving the Milkovic Pendulum System
......

Tseung: "If we can increase the effective gravitational constant G, we can increase the frequency of the oscillation and hence the efficiency of the system.  A simple improvement to the Milkovic System is to use magnets as pendulum and put external magnets below it to increase the frequency of oscillation."
......

Hello Lawrence,

I think your idea occured also to Milkovic, see his patent page on it:

http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Patenti/Patent3.jpg

Have you considered a similar arrangement in your mind?  If you have some ideas for futher improvements, would you advise?

Here are some of his further ideas connected to pendulum and lever:

http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/PatentiEng.html

Regards
Gyula