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Title: Sorry guys
Post by: raburgeson on July 10, 2007, 12:49:36 AM
The lakes both Erie and Ontario are hot beds for activity right now. I've spent a few nights on the shore and so far I've got nothing to show you. All this is going down West of us. If I do get something I'll post it. We have been trying to make contact, we believe all the scare tactics are just government propaganda. We don't think mutalations are done by the aliens here. We do think they have interest in us biologically but think returns are alive. People are waiting for a stray craft to signal with light if we see one.

Anyone West of me in that super hot zone try and barter something for technology. I don't know what they might like, I have a years worth of tiling images to try to trade and they can have the laptop it's on with it.
Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: TheOne on July 10, 2007, 01:00:58 AM
the grey are doing the mutilation but they are other species too, so prob some are good and some are evil :D

cannot wait to see your photo!
Title: Re: Sorry guys: heart to heart speculation
Post by: raburgeson on July 10, 2007, 12:22:26 PM
I don't see any other choises here, the government has told us nothing but lies. What do we know? We have thousands of pictures, witnesses, videos. Pieces and other material truth is stolen, bought or made to disappear in some other manner. They have infiltrated good groups like MUFON and what ever groups we start to disinform us. A Florida resident sent a sample of a fluid that leaked from a UFO to MUFON, the sample disappeared. MUFON is full of dedicated people that want disclosure, the actual members are honest good people that would act faithfully on this material leaving them blameless. This is proof that they have been infiltrated by some group that have an agenda. What is their big stake in this that makes them lie cheat and steal? Maybe worse? We can't trust the rumors of aggression brought to us by liars. The government itself may have created the evidence to support this type of claim. The only way we are going to find out is to talk to them. At this point with the propaganda we have been given we are supposed to what, throw up our hands, hollor oh no it's an alien, and crap our pants and run face first into a wall somewere? There is nothing to fear but fear itself, I don't buy the stories. There are no aliens, the aliens are evil, we will lock up anyone who, has had contact, the aliens carry a dreadful disease, and the aliens will gut you while you are still alive. Did I miss any? This is fear mongering propaganda and it has gone on long enough. Let's do some speculating.

At first the shear number of them suggests they come from inside our solar system. This is probably partially true. To many reports of repairs being made, this indicates that many are travelling long distances.

We are their destination and they are studying us. I doubt this, our atmosphere and water supply probably makes us a handy pit stop. Our aggressive government probably makes it necessary for them to be in large numbers for their own protection when they have to stop. I don't believe otherwise we are important at all to an advanced race.

That's the end of my speculation because we cannot trust anything we have been told about these visiters. We have to get them to stop and talk to find the truth.

So, do you believe the government is protecting you from them, or are they protecting themselves and their policies?

Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: argona369 on July 10, 2007, 03:32:44 PM
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Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: devilzangel on July 12, 2007, 05:23:41 AM
find Dan burisch vid .. find Steven Greer vids ..

Humans come in billions of personalities .. what makes us think another EBE civilization will be any different??? they aren't robots, they are simply more evolved ...just bc they may be thousands of years advanced than us doesn't mean that they have only one belief system, culture, tradition, etc. To think otherwise, is to be very naive.

The Government isn't employing scare tactics .. why would they??? .. They deny that anything such as EBEs even exists. If any group did, then they are admitting that EBEs exist.

EBEs are from an entirely different star system light years away (they may have originated from earth tens of thousands of years ago in their past (meaning they are time traveling into their past)) .. so ya .. they carry bacteria and microorganisms that in all possibility are deadly to current earth humans. ... we don't have to look far to see an example .. ie. Europeans colonizing Native America, bringing over bacteria and micro-organisms the Native Indians weren't used to .. it practically wiped out a major portion of the Native Indian population.

I have long wondered, why the EBEs arent just coming out oneday and introducing themselves to humans on an international scale. They have many reasons .. first they dont want to interfere in the culture or the nature process of government .. second, they probably feel that once the humans get mature enough (get rid of dumb idiots from positions of political control) .. then eventually things will take a natural course. Third, they may simply be not interested in interacting with the whole human civilization .. they are simply working out trade agreements and going along minding their own business.

devilzangel
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Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: TheOne on July 12, 2007, 05:39:06 AM
they are live on other planet from this solar system, venus for example, have plenty of life, they just disinform the public telling the atmosphere is made of acid or something lol, actually they have tree and stuff and even alien! which look like us but different a little bit but quite the same!
Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: Freezer on July 12, 2007, 04:09:26 PM
The lakes both Erie and Ontario are hot beds for activity right now. I've spent a few nights on the shore and so far I've got nothing to show you. All this is going down West of us. If I do get something I'll post it. We have been trying to make contact, we believe all the scare tactics are just government propaganda. We don't think mutalations are done by the aliens here. We do think they have interest in us biologically but think returns are alive. People are waiting for a stray craft to signal with light if we see one.

Anyone West of me in that super hot zone try and barter something for technology. I don't know what they might like, I have a years worth of tiling images to try to trade and they can have the laptop it's on with it.

Do you live near any military bases?

First of all, I wouldn't try and signal any down, as some are nice, and some are not so nice, and others are military.  Try and get some video with views of reference points in the background.  So what tells you theres a hot bed of activity?
Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: Aphasiac on July 12, 2007, 07:41:18 PM
The lakes both Erie and Ontario are hot beds for activity right now. I've spent a few nights on the shore and so far I've got nothing to show you. All this is going down West of us. ...
Anyone West of me in that super hot zone try and barter something for technology.

I'm just west of you, But I'm a skeptic.

Spent more nights sleeping on Lake Erie beaches last summer & autumn than I can count. Never saw anything but fishing boats. But then... I have to admit, I was otherwise occupied. :P

I could try and take them something; do you think they like Mars bars? j/k.

Mark.
Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: argona369 on July 12, 2007, 08:22:26 PM
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Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: Aphasiac on July 12, 2007, 09:18:45 PM

why not? it's one way to get their attention
and one way to make contact.
i've seen them up close (craft),and i'm still here.
and none are military or ours, as far as i'm concerned.
and, nobody knows where their from,or who they are.


Alright, now my interest is officially piqued.

@ raburgeson: Tell me where to go.

Cheers, Mark.
Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: argona369 on July 13, 2007, 03:40:40 AM
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Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: Aphasiac on July 13, 2007, 07:30:05 AM
Thanks for the links, Cliff.

I suppose maybe it's time I throw in my GPS unit and trade geocaching for a new sport!
But... most of the sightings I read are just random, so I guess it would be easier to chase down a tornado.

All the same, it looks like fun.

Ciao, Mark.
Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: argona369 on July 13, 2007, 08:00:47 AM
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Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: raburgeson on July 14, 2007, 06:46:30 AM
Damn I saw 1 tonight, it was to light for a picture I think, I made three tries to get a pick.
I flashed my headlights for a good ten minutes. I can't tell if I got a pic. that's good yet because the Sony software is on my wifes computer, needs WinXP, I hate that bloatware, it will be Monday before I get to look.

The lights were dimming and this post didn't post in it's entirety, I didn't think I got any of it up. I would have tried to fix it earlier if I new it made it.
Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: raburgeson on July 14, 2007, 06:57:51 AM
Haven't you seen the videos from Lake Erie yet? We don't need another picture. I flashed my headlights at one tonight, I am not going to show fear of fear itself anymore. I took some pics. They may show nothing, it was very light in the industrial park I was in. The Sony program is on my wifes computer and, she's busy answering her spam junk mail right now, it may be a couple of days. ( I swear to god that's what she does with her computer). If I did get it it was just a small dot in the sky, no it was not a plane, yes I know the difference. There were 4 planes I could count doing a panoramic sweep. Might be Monday before I can check the camera, after she has to go back to work. And, no I will not degrade my computer with Windows XP to run the camera software.

Add to this a bit. I have a car that was concidered dangerous because the head lights beam all the way to straight up. In fog or snow at night time if the top of the lenes are not taped you can't see anything. (1996 Concorde) If it's in front of the car they will see it.
Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: argona369 on July 15, 2007, 08:11:21 AM
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Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: raburgeson on July 15, 2007, 08:15:23 PM
I got the strangest pictures posted in here, the one with the diamond shaped UFOs, they were wierd. They looked 2 dimensional no matter which way they turned. Something wrong with their stealth settings. When we build something it's dart shaped and you can tell were the pilot sits, even on the stealth fighter. The off white blue thing I posted came from a tip, it was hanging around an area steady. It's posted, I photo chem-trails. I don't think Erie, PA has ever made the hot spot center. We seem to be in a far fringe area and see A couple of stragglers. You need tips from locals. The tipsters will be doing creadible things that put them at the area of the sighting. Lake Erie west of cleavland, I don't know how far. Might not last to much longer, the military is probably trying to drive them off.

Cliff, I bet you perfectly right, avoid the backward monkeymen. It doesn't hurt to try.
Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: argona369 on July 15, 2007, 08:26:48 PM
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Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: raburgeson on July 19, 2007, 10:18:40 PM
Try WTF shaped UFO right here in UFO Sightings. This was not a closeup the object was so huge you may think it was. If it is as I originally posted, it is straight off the camera and has not been photoshopped or modified in any way. I estimate about the same size as the Baldwin Bank Building, it's at least 15 floors high and over an 1/8 of a block base. Notice the chem-clouds lit up in the background and the durbis around the craft. This thing was really bright, it lit up the whole valley.

The diamond shaped UFOs always appeared 2 dimensional no matter wich way they turned. Some kind of cloaking. No idea how they do it.

It's very hard to get a closeup, first off I don't have a powerful fabulous telescopic lens and they don't travel on the ground were I do. Everytime you see a closeup of one someone captured something special, it not the norm. I photograph chemtrails all the time. I hate them and what they represent, they already have us in economic slavery, chemtrails give them power over our food, air, and water. So that is why my eyes are pointed at the sky. The brite off white blue thing was from a good tip from someone I trust. My other pictures were gathered while snapping chemtrail pictures.   
Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: argona369 on July 20, 2007, 02:24:27 AM
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Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: devilzangel on July 25, 2007, 01:18:11 AM
Hi Ray(?)

>I flash my headlights for a good ten minutes
I?m fairly certain that they can detect a couple of flashes from a flashlight from orbit.

take care,
Cliff,

would disagree .. detecting a few flickers of a 1-2" diameter flashlight, heck .. even a 5-6"??? .. highly unlikely .. Lasers, yes .. but not regular light .. it gets diffused in the atmosphere way too fast to reach over 100 miles out from earth into space. Besides, there are clouds. A good light message might be sent from a high altitude location in a desert-like area.

if they were looking for lights .. um well .. there are plenty of intensely bright areas on earth's night sky today. I don't think a car headlight is gonna cry out "look at me, look at me" over the cascade of light noise around the headlight.

a better method of communication might be radio transmission .. or telepathy; you could be sending out telepathic messages without even knowing that u r .. it may be what is attracting them to a certain location, not the actual headlight.

just my opinion  :)

devilzangel
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Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: argona369 on July 25, 2007, 05:19:49 AM
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Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: devilzangel on July 28, 2007, 07:51:50 PM
@argona369 .. i want to believe EBE .. but not to the point of being ridiculous. If EBE are superior (which i do believe they are, but not "vastly"), they wouldn't need to be looking for pulsed photonic signals. They are most probably scanning Telepathic and Etheric communications; these type of communications have no real limit to distance (i surmise).

Like i said, there is the possibility that it isn't the light thats attracting them .. it is the mental (telepathic) signals that you may be sending out (unknowingly), that they are picking up.

ya .. they could amplify the light signals, like night vision, for analysis .. but try doing that in an area that already has high level light noise, it is kind of like wearing night vision goggles in daytime. In order for your signal to get through, it would have to have a unique signature they may be looking for, or it would have to be more intense than the surrounding.

devilzangel
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It?s extremely possible that they have vastly superior
sensor technology, and computer processing.
And could ?See? a  light beam pointed at them
no matter how dim.

 I?d NEVER use a laser of any power level,
 I would never shine one anywhere. (Even a ufo craft, you wouldn?t want to blind them?)
Btw its illegal and could blind someone or cause an aircraft crash.


Hi Ray(?)

>I flash my headlights for a good ten minutes
I?m fairly certain that they can detect a couple of flashes from a flashlight from orbit.

take care,
Cliff,

would disagree .. detecting a few flickers of a 1-2" diameter flashlight, heck .. even a 5-6"??? .. highly unlikely .. Lasers, yes .. but not regular light .. it gets diffused in the atmosphere way too fast to reach over 100 miles out from earth into space. Besides, there are clouds. A good light message might be sent from a high altitude location in a desert-like area.

if they were looking for lights .. um well .. there are plenty of intensely bright areas on earth's night sky today. I don't think a car headlight is gonna cry out "look at me, look at me" over the cascade of light noise around the headlight.

a better method of communication might be radio transmission .. or telepathy; you could be sending out telepathic messages without even knowing that u r .. it may be what is attracting them to a certain location, not the actual headlight.

just my opinion  :)

devilzangel
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Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: argona369 on July 29, 2007, 09:19:02 PM
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Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: devilzangel on August 03, 2007, 03:24:53 AM
 ::)

I own a new Maglite 3D flashlight; it has those 3 watt LEDs .. it shoots a pretty good amount of candle power, but it is not anything like what u would need to track an object in space at a distance of over 200 miles. .. There is just not enough candle power reaching the distance and back for your eyes to register it. Not to mention the incredible accuracy needed to position and focus a flashlight at an object so far away. The capability of the Maglite is probably about 3-4 miles at max power. A UFO would definitely pick up a source pointed directly at it within that distance.

Have you had a chance to read a book by Ingo Swann titled "Penetration"? .. Ingo Swann is the guy behind the science of Remote Viewing. This book is about his remote viewing experience on the moon and UFOs for a certain black ops group of U.S.A.; He talks about how the UFOs are very sensitive to thermal heat from biology, sensitive to movement, and sensitive to sound in its vicinity.

devilzangel
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Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: argona369 on August 05, 2007, 09:11:15 PM
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Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: devilzangel on August 09, 2007, 01:33:03 AM

Isn?t that the guy who said there?s city?s and roads on the far side of the moon?
I have not seen anything that would suggest that ESP is real.
And don?t believe in ESP.


How can u believe in UFOs; say they are highly advanced, yada yada yada; believe that u can track a 100 meter object from 200 miles with a flashlight .. and not believe that there is a slight possibility in remote viewing? .. even a slight amount of research in that matter will tell u that remote viewing is taken very seriously by intelligence agencies around the world; there is also plenty of evidence in ancient human literature of such ability within humans.

so much for u being "openminded"

i can believe Jupiter is made of apple flavored jello; BUT that in no way changes the fact of what it really is, or what it's made up of. All i would be doing is deluding myself.

anywho have it your way, im out of this thread

o btw, this is not your thread, nor are u an authority on this subject; so please don't tell others what to do. .. Kindly state your opinion and see whether it stands up to scientific scrutiny.

devilzangel
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Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: argona369 on August 09, 2007, 08:45:09 PM
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Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: devilzangel on August 10, 2007, 01:16:36 AM
>nor are u an authority on this subject


You have been condescending, confrontational and arrogant.
I?ve have multiple close range sightings, even inline ?D? prints that ended in the middle
of my yard. I?ve studied the subject for over ten years, and have talked
to highly respected researchers. So yes you could say I?m very knowledgeable on this subject.
I?m also not deluded by esp claims, albeit alien craft could through technology
be able to pick up and analyze facial expressions.
Remote viewing is a farce conjured up by psyops?s of the world.
also, this IS under ufo?s sighting, something I?ve had many of. Whether you believe it or not, is your loss.

And u say I am the one "condescending, confrontational and arrogant" .. lmao.

please .. i have been researching this stuff among many paranormal phenomena since  1995. I had my 1st UFO sighting in 1993.

In order for u to be an authority, u would need to have made scientific contributions to the UFO community. Plz point to any journalistic print you may have made in general journals, UFO journals, or otherwise reputable journals. I dont claim to be an authority, I merely claim to be level minded.

Your postings speak for how "competent" you may be; This thread isnt about who has the biggest 'u know wat'.

And i repeat : This is not your thread, nor are u an authority on this subject; so please don't tell others what to do. .. Kindly state your opinion and see whether it stands up to scientific scrutiny.

If any user here thinks i am being harsh or condescending, please let me know; i am only trying to be as true to facts in my previous posts as possible; i dont see how this can be condescending.

devilzangel
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Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: argona369 on August 10, 2007, 04:27:03 PM
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Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: raburgeson on August 11, 2007, 03:17:40 AM
The chem-clouds have been so thick I haven't seen anything over the lake yet. One night I did see a couple of meteorites both travelling North over the lake burn up. I checked on the net and it says the peak time for watching this year is the 12th and the 13th, should be a good meteor shower.

The group here gave me a job that will cut down on my hours at the lake, I don't know much about geology and have no idea why I got saddled with that job.

I have been studying pictures of mars, I was all gong-ho to start working on the magnetic wankel motor and had to put it on the back burner so, I've been combing the highest resolution pictures of Mars I can find. I will explain all the modifications to the picture here.
The pixel density was very high so I increased the size of it. Being aware of the filter spanning into the infared spectrum I cut down the red and increased the yellow. That's it. I did not rearrange the pixels on the photo in any other way. I took a cropping of something that makes Richard C. Hoagland sane or, me nuts. I found a artifact, something that could not be shaped by nature. I will attach the cropping now. I have no idea what this part is, I do know natural erosion does not make square holes.

You can search the source file by the filename, larryslookout_spirit_big.jpg. This object can be found just straight off the source file by using zoom enough times. There is also 4 skull shaped objects on the picture, I'm not saying they are skulls for sure. Another reappearing object on the picture is a small straight post that has a tripod type support and the forth leg in the center is the bottom of the post. The shadow seems to large for the object for all of them. Might be worth your while to look at it. The file size your looking for will be 5581 Kb. Other objects of note, split pipe, sort of gutter like and bent pipe. You can even make the picture black and white, as long as you don't rearrange the pixels you should be fine.

Objects have been responding to flashlights in the West at a couple of ranches and around trout lake, that's why I'm trying light first. It's nonaggressive and not harmful and it could work. The object wasn't in space, it was below the clouds, it passed close to one of the planes up there. There is no proof the grays are doing the mutilations, they see a ship and get back a mutilated creature. We only have informers the Grays did it. Governments want to weaponize space.
Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: argona369 on August 11, 2007, 10:38:38 PM

Was the meteorites green?

>mutilations
That is the dark side of ufo research alright.
I?ve heard of some human mutilations too, mostly from south
America, but there have been a very few that I know of.
(none in North America/Europe that I know of btw)
And could be cults/drug gang(was burned body in south america) killings or someone who mimicked cattle mutilations
To discourage disclosure of the ufo subject.

Added: Forgot about this guy,
Jonathan P. Louette , White Sands missile test range. The only North American one I know of, and probably us who did it.


Cliff,
Title: Re: Sorry guys
Post by: raburgeson on August 12, 2007, 02:09:59 AM
Right on Cliff, that's what I'm trying to say, They do it, point at the aliens and yell evil. Remember when India said, We have been taught the laws of the universe. Not an exact quote but close. I think there is a limit to what the aliens can do down here. I think we can do worse things to them, that's why the government can attack them and a war doesn't start. Remember hearing about the UFO the Navy shot down over Saudi Arabia. No real fear of retaliation of an advanced race going through the feeble government minds.

They have a law that if you are in contact with aliens you can be arrested and quarentined for life. With that law in effect, it by itself makes a full disclosure that aliens races exist and visit the planet. You need more than a threat of life time incarceration to believe people all over the planet are reporting real sightings? Yet people still have doubts. Well after India's anouncement suddenly their nuclear program was OK with the rest of the world and they were welcomed into the International Financial Community.

The fakers help disinformers fuel the doubts, the longer they can call us crazy and deny existence the longer they can keep us from making contact. They may have things to trade for that will make many markets obsolete. Medicine, Fuel, transportation, other types of energy, intelligent machines, any and all possible things. This could rock the financial world. Viewing the performance of the financial world, that could be a very good thing that would improve the life of every citizen on this planet. They are afraid of that too, people thinking of themselves as citizens of planet Earth. Gold could be in high abundance from a exploded planet in the asteroid belt, just think rare materials here may be common place right here in our own Solar System. We know diamonds are created by impacts.

http://www.unexplainable.net/artman/publish/article_223.shtml

About the law prohibiting contact with aliens, you can find much more coverage with simple searches.
Screw them, I'll pick my own friends.