tao

like your thred and all your posts i have a question or 2



TUBES  i think tubes as well  but what kind of tubes are you thinking of i am currently looking for tubes i found a huge supply of all tubes but i dont know anything about tubes can you offer specs of tubes and reasons why you think those tubes would best suit the tpu in your opinion

thanks agin tao

william

tao

like your thred and all your posts i have a question or 2



TUBES  i think tubes as well  but what kind of tubes are you thinking of i am currently looking for tubes i found a huge supply of all tubes but i dont know anything about tubes can you offer specs of tubes and reasons why you think those tubes would best suit the tpu in your opinion

thanks agin tao

william

I get the strange feeling you are interested in tubes?

I would like to bring to you all a PERFECT explanation/example of where the preferred KICK that Steven Mark talks about comes from. This would be the KICK that appears BEFORE current flows in a conductive coil/wire...

Below is a VERY GOOD, and MUCH SLEPT ON POST from aether22, posted on another forum.. I might just post this separately in another thread too, as the idea is viable.

Pay attention




aether22:
"I am a major proponent of the aether, though I didn't like it to begin with it just makes far too much sense.

What is odd is I'm going to present a Free Energy device that does not use the aether in any way.
In part that's why I'm presenting it here, not sure I need this distraction, but it's so straight forward.

It's the super charging effect, connect a decent voltage to a long piece of wire and current flows, if it is an open circuit it will take a while before it knows this and so it will send current through anyway charging it to a high voltage, it's the electrical analog of the verified OU water hammer effect in pipes, now if we take the speed of light in a vacuum 299,792,458 meters a second (in reality it will be slower than that which is good) and suppose a 200 meter transmission like, then double it to 400m because the wave gets to the end and must reflect, so that gives us 749,481 but we need some off time, so assume a 50% duty cycle, we have 374,740 hz, quite reasonable.

Now what happens where all those electrons, amps and amps worth squeeze themselves into a piece of wire? Well you get a crazy high voltage.
Maybe even high enough to release the electrons as effectively beta radiation.

At any rate metals near it will be charged, now what does this sound like to you?
Tesla, Ed Gray.
We know the effect works, it occurs in long transmission lines (it happens every time, and it's killed people), there is nothing to doubt, and the math works out.
It's only an issue on engineering it and making it practical, and unlike the mysterious forces of the aether we can calculate this one before we begin.

Now I am in favor of doing this with a long line as that simplifies the switching we can make a compact long transmission line by making the type of coil Hooper (motional magnetic field guy) made, where we fold a wire back on it's self, by doing this we get a compact transmission line without the inductance of a coil (a normal coil will slow the all important rise time), a normal bucking bifilar coil won't work as the impulse will transfer inductively and will appear superluminal as it won't travel through the wire, but the Hooper coil or tightly wound bucking parallel caduceus (in other words a normal caduceus) will have both types of inductances cancel.  (note: the caduceus coil must be single layer, note2: interestingly induction will still take place, only it will be weak microwave frequency oscillations)

Of course any dual channel scope can easily measure the effectiveness of a delay line section.
It would be possible to do this with mechanical switching if you had a delay line of over 200 meters, although it would be difficult.

You could tap the power in 2 ways, one is by having the charges spray or arc to another electrode, the other obviously is by capacitive induction, in either case you going to want to surround it by an electrode as Ed Gray uses, not sure why perforation is required/preferred.

This is a pretty straight forward Free Energy device, we can calculate it, work it out, run easy tests with oscilloscopes, calculate what kind of voltage we will be dealing with, it's not the mysterious type of Free Energy machine, it's a totally reliable mathematically certain proven Free Energy machine.

We can either run it as stated above or instead use the principle of opening a closed circuit, though the frequency will need to be twice as high.
One thing not noted above is that once charged, unless it sprays all of it's charges away the transmission line might need to be discharged, indeed in we want we may opt not to use another electrode and merely discharge the high voltage on the transmission line.

This is also better in some ways than my favorite of gaining Free Energy from the aether as this is a single effect, it can't be misused.

I recommend anyone not sure what to do should work on this, it's a Free Energy effect like no other, we know it's been done before (Tesla, Ed Gray, Swiss ML) and we can calculate it, it's success isn't Dependant on unknowns. (the effect is also clearly present every time you flick a light switch and hear speakers pop, it happens in transmission lines, and best of all it happens every single time)

So if you don't know what to do, work on this.
Another thing, this effect can also be used to create a unidirectional propulsive force by turning 2 electromagnets on and off in the right way, this has already been patented.
Turn on coil 1 and it produces a magnetic field, turn coil 2 on and it is immediately attracted/repelled by the magnetic field of 1, however coil 1 does not instantaneously know that 2 has turned on and so for a moment 2 ir pushed while 1 is not, now once the field from 2 reaches 1, turn it off, it will still take coil 2 some time before it detects detects the field from 1 has changed and it will continue to experience force, if you do it right 1 need not have felt 2 at all.

IF infact coil 1 does immediately react to coil 2 being turned on then that is a superluminal reaction, pretty cool (and generally considered impossible), otherwise the only other way this could fail to create a unidirectional force is if coil 1 which no longer has and current flowing through it (it's open circuit) feels a force even though it no longer has a current passing through it and is no longer creating a magnetic field which is kinda crazy. (Indeed if you had a huge coil in space, you could turn the coil off, turn it into scrap and then have a force placed on it, no way)

There is a patent on this in the US btw."

The Tesla-ish "kick" at the beginning of circuit connection is the electrons flipping to align to the potential.  This is before a drift is formed and current starts to flow an occurs in the first couple of ns.  I posted some data a while back that this is dependent upon the resistance of the circuit - so resistive wire should lower the flip speed and allow RE expulsion with shorter wire.  Guess no one saw that.

I posted a "Delta Function" document a while back - kicks in the low ns range, but no one gave a rat's ass.  Funny that now we are talking about the same damn flip-flops and NAND gates - haha!!

SM never said his device utilized RE.  I think that it is realted but not Tesla's version.  No spark gap, no freaky high voltage and no RE migrating all over the place.  Came to this conclusion several months ago and posted something to this effect.

4017 chip is running - as simple as it gets.  RMF for less than $5 US including wire and batteries.  Took 5 minutes to wire the chip, two hours for the coil.  (No phase adjust yet.)

So get off your asses and stop making excuses!

LOL, Guess no one saw(although I know they did ) all my posts on it either, or my PDF which showed the various relaxation times, guess both of our posts were passed by. LOL...

Grumpy, one constant thing regarding the TPU, is that information, no matter when posted, seems to sink into oblivion, only to resurface later. This has happened WAY more times than I can count.

And don't worry, our asses won't be on the 'chairs' for much longer my friend..........................

Many here keep incessantly chanting "build, build, build!"

The question is "build what  "

I'm really tiring of that.

Until Steven Mark or UEC discloses some plans or a diagram of the coils and their interconnection, OR if and when someone develops something along the lines of the TPU, and can PROVE that it is overunity, OR someone puts forth a theory that to me seems to fit all the clues, I will continue the path I feel comfortable with.

So I would appreciate it if the constant "encouragement" to build would cease, and some respect afforded to those who may still be thinking about what, when, if, and how they will build and test. I am quite able to determine on my own when and how I am ready to build....alright?

Many thanks,
Darren

What is REALLY funny Darren, is that you, me, and some others are getting HARASSED for not building yet, but the new guy to the forum Mark Snoswell(good approach man, love the conceptual model so far), they aren't yelling at him to BUILD, which is funny.

Just look at Mark's well put statement:

"This highlights a lesson I learned after being seduced into replication attempts of several types of devices (not TPU's). Seeking to blindly copy someone else?s design is a bit like gold rush fever. You don?t know what you are doing; you don?t have enough information to go on; it's often doomed to failure as it's based on misinformation. It's little better than gambling.

The lesson it to strive for understanding so that you can intelligently design your own devices and add to the collective pool of information."


SO, 'they' let that slide, but we and others get harassed, go figure...

Hi all and the question by IST:
   Tubes? Well the darn things switch extremely fast. Now when they were playing with solid state, the transistors were very slow. We do have mosfets with gate drivers that will get to that speed. A tube is just the easy way to make it happen without worrying about all the noise and harmonics it generates. A bit of care must go into the design of the switching circuits. That comes right from Mannix. Hence why he kept asking if anyone knew what the difference between tubes and ss was. Took me a while to get there. I grew up with tubes and should have known it from the get go. Didn't catch on very quick tho.
   As for the build, well that is where I have seen all the strange things happen. No better thing than to see it right on the scope screen in front of you. Lots of dead horses in the box. A bunch that made it to the compacter as well. But, getting there and having a ball doing it.

thaelin

And on a side note: Gnosis made a ref to magnetometers and so off I went to see if I could gleen just what tesla meant by "tuning" one to the storm. Well, seems the freq the coils were set to was 32.5k and thats real close to the core freq of the 15" tpu. I would be uuber careful if you play with this one. Its the direct "center" frequency of lightning strikes if my guess is right. Tune slightly off center of it...... All starting to get solid.

Here's a Hint. And Pay attention to the last item on the list especially... This is where I'm looking now..... toroids toroids toroids...

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2300.msg33365.html#msg33365

God Bless,
Jason O

hello all here is 1 more important thought i had

and this was a quote from sauron some time ago he said that the winner will not be cold so what do you think that means also get it hot with a lot of noise what does that mean ?


here was my thought how do we cancel the magnetic flux well i know of a ring in france that cancles the flux by cold at -270 deg c. or around there so i think that is cold flux cancelation

ok with the tpu maybe it only cancles the flux after it gets hot also we can not cool it by fans so it makes me wonder also in 1 of the videos i think it looked like he got burned not shocked could that be how it works with heat he also says that he could harness some of the heat to make even more output

when i think of heat i think of crystals

hummm   ----------------- just thought i would share that thought


the ring in france is 37km big herd of this on the radio


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