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Offline Aphasiac

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Aphasiac's 12HP Hydrogen Project
« on: July 05, 2007, 10:05:22 PM »
Here's a shot of my project, and a little about me too. I realize I've sort of popped out of nowhere, so this will give you a chance to see what I'm up to, and who I am.

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=CAC2209154B8B1D8

I know Ironhead and others have done something similar already. Hope it worked out... I hate beating down doors just to learn that someone else had already unlocked them. But so goes the pursuit of unlimited energy.

Feedback of any kind is appreciated.

Regards, Mark.
 





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Re: Aphasiac's 12HP Hydrogen Project
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2007, 10:35:52 PM »
Welcome Aphasiac, been watching John aaron's vid's huh? Nice looking cell, we all look at everything a little bit differently so another set of eyes is always welcomed. We try to share experiences as well, (no need to go down the same failure path that maybe one of the other experimenters has right?) I look forward to your tests & results... just go about it safely...

welcome aboard,

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Re: Aphasiac's 12HP Hydrogen Project
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2007, 10:52:59 PM »
Welcome Aphasiac, been watching John aaron's vid's huh? ...Nice looking cell. . . . I look forward to your tests & results... just go about it safely.

Thanks, Raptor. And yes, I fell onto John Aaron's (aka Rich Berman's) vids first, and became hooked. This cell is definitely similar to his, though bigger plates and fewer of them, and a longer cell, hopefully to allow more water movement.

Thanks for the caveat. I will play carefully.. esp as I venture into RF territory. I've been reading the adventures of Otto, Jason, Roberto, et al., and so I'm duly warned that I know less than I think I do, which isn't much. lol.

Cheers,  Mark.

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Re: Aphasiac's 12HP Hydrogen Project
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2007, 10:52:59 PM »
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Re: Aphasiac's 12HP Hydrogen Project
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2007, 08:58:50 PM »
Here's a shot of my project, and a little about me too. I realize I've sort of popped out of nowhere, so this will give you a chance to see what I'm up to, and who I am.

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=CAC2209154B8B1D8

I know Ironhead and others have done something similar already. Hope it worked out... I hate beating down doors just to learn that someone else had already unlocked them. But so goes the pursuit of unlimited energy.

Feedback of any kind is appreciated.

Regards, Mark.
 






The only way this technology is going to help this world is to do it our selfs for our own little world we create and support .What I mean by this, is one backyard at a time.
So bang those doors down, this is for you . We must get back to the days where we created the things we need to live by what ever means possible and the so called impossible .We get so caught up in the Gov / Corps providing for us ,we tend to forget how to provide for our selfs . So good on ya for taking on this task ,Aphasiac.

I can tell you that what you are doing is not impossible, but you have alot of work and study ahead of you. I will go over a few things you might want to think about on this project in the near future . I have to get a few things together such as web pages and such . There are a bunch of numbers that say you can not do this ,forget them.
You will know when you turn the valve on if you need this or that to be changed in some way to archive your task.HHO extraction from water is not the only thing to think about in this case.The engine itself was designed to compress and combust a liquid fuel. There alone you must think in new ways.

One thing ,very important with HHO . Never let pressurized gas into the engine with out it turning and firing first  or you might blow the motor apart.
Second , This is not gasoline it does not require compression to  explode .
At this point compression is nothing but loss energy.
Third , Flashaback arrestors and small bubbler very close to the cell  is a must. Put you cell as close to the intake as possible  because you have liberated electrons in the gas,the gas will recombined back to water very quickly.
You could loss up to 50% of your gas turning back to water in a given distance.
All of these little details  will hinder you outcome if not well thought out.

More to come
Just build it , It will teach you
IronHead
« Last Edit: July 07, 2007, 09:48:39 PM by IronHead »

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Re: Aphasiac's 12HP Hydrogen Project
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2007, 09:07:08 PM »
Great work Aphasiac,

Ironhead, your completely right, we can?t convince other people to get of there buts if we don?t.

Please help us with the high voltage setup back at the http://waterfuelcell.org/phpBB2 forum, you experiences are so helpful, maybe a little background on the electronics used.

Thanks,

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Re: Aphasiac's 12HP Hydrogen Project
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Re: Aphasiac's 12HP Hydrogen Project
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2007, 09:22:56 PM »
Electronics are a process of addition and elimination for each Cell build and Cell type. I can get into the basics of what it takes to design a drive for a specific Cell stack. Some Cells can not be driven at all from what I have seen. This has to do with the design of the Cell itself. More on this later.
 
I will try and talk abit over at your forum. I have so many things going on with this now. Last time I took a count it was right around 1800 people in a bunch of Forums,Messages, Emails, YouTube and so on . Even my phone rings of the hook ,as they say.

I will do my best to pay  your forum a visit.



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Re: Aphasiac's 12HP Hydrogen Project
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2007, 09:35:34 PM »
Thank you, IronHead! :-)

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Re: Aphasiac's 12HP Hydrogen Project
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2007, 10:27:10 PM »
Dude no rush, the forum though is brilliant for help, people on there have had good success, there all the details get discussed, I?m not advertising it or anything it?s just that the forum is the best I?ve found so far for replicating the water fuel cell. Your help is great and will be appreciated there, 


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Re: Aphasiac's 12HP Hydrogen Project
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2007, 10:28:06 PM »
Dude no rush, the forum though is brilliant for help, people on there have had good success, there all the details get discussed, I?m not advertising it or anything it?s just that the forum is the best I?ve found so far for replicating the water fuel cell. Your help is great and will be appreciated there, 


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Re: Aphasiac's 12HP Hydrogen Project
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2007, 10:28:06 PM »
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Re: Aphasiac's 12HP Hydrogen Project
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2007, 02:34:02 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VypwKfECnKI

Here's a video update on my 12HP Snapper conversion project for those interested.
There's a shot of the cell running at 12V, 14Amps., as well as a few snaps pasted below.

(This is my 4th shot at uploading these, so Aphasiac is crossing his fingers and hoping this post doesn't show up in 3 other threads. lol)


I think this cell is producing very nicely, though there is a delay of a couple of seconds between when I apply power, and when it starts pumping out the HHO. I'm wondering if this is maybe because of the size of my plates, or possibly because I didn't charge the cell up in advance?

Also, you'll notice a thin ring of scum if you look closely enough. The water is distilled, but I wiped the inside of the tube out with a greasy rag before filling... next time I'll try paper towels. :P

Cheers, Mark.


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Re: Aphasiac's 12HP Hydrogen Project
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2007, 02:57:01 AM »
Nice job  . you got your self a sweet little 12 volter there.
Have you ever tried to seal the plates off from one another so
the voltage is forced to go through the plates ?
 The Cell would produce abit better in the long run.
Anyway,  great job keep up the good work.


A true builder ya be
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Re: Aphasiac's 12HP Hydrogen Project
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Re: Aphasiac's 12HP Hydrogen Project
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2007, 09:20:59 AM »
No, I haven't... but was planning to ask you about that!

How did you do it? I know you mentioned that you had success in another thread, but I forget how you said you did it... did you have them coated in teflon?  And... if I can do this, then why can't I use any kind of metal and wrap it up... wouldn't the plastic protect the metal from breaking down?

So many questions. 

Oh... and I think the Turtle is rubbing off on you; now I'm having visions of Johhny Depp on the High Seas when I read your words. lol.

Thanks, IH.


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Re: Aphasiac's 12HP Hydrogen Project
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2007, 12:24:31 PM »
LOL
Metal is conductive so you don't want that. Acrylic or Plexiglas is a good way to go.
Any hardware store should have small sheets you can buy. Just get enough to cover the 4 sides . Boxing the Cell stack in  leaving the top and bottom open . GOOP is a good glue to use to do this as it does not break down in the process .You can get that just about all stores as well . This is a good way to start .
I will make a drawing for you tonight if you want to give it a go.

One other thing is the water level . I have found that the water level should be right
around the level of the plates if you go much higher than the cell takes alot more amps
,lower and the cell does not produce well .Does not have to be exact , just close.

Have fun
IronHead

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Re: Aphasiac's 12HP Hydrogen Project
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2007, 07:03:57 PM »
Ok, I'll try it out on my next cell build. There's no space in this configuration. Don't worry abt the drawings... I can ask you for them when the time comes if needed... but I think I've got the basic idea.

More importantly... what are you using for a pulse/freq generator? I've got about 30 difft schematics, but from what I've read, some work, some don't. Is there one in particular that I should be looking at?

I've got an old cold war era EICO signal generator here...  ;P  And a closet full of parts for breadboarding. Just trying to establish my best build.

Thanks, Mark.


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Re: Aphasiac's 12HP Hydrogen Project
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2007, 07:15:55 PM »
Oh wait! Now I know what you mean. I thought you were suggesting that I cover each individual plate, which didn't make a whole lotta sense to me. But this kinda does. I mean, I see the logic. I think. Yeah. I do. I'll try it.  lol.


 

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