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Author Topic: Magnet motor by pcockriel  (Read 47122 times)

Offline magpower

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #90 on: July 13, 2007, 10:00:48 PM »
Here are still a few older video of pcockriel:
http://z8d.no-ip.info/pcockriel/

Unfortunately not the one with the wire around magnets
and sticking it into the copper tube.

If somebody has stored this, please upload it again over here...

Too bad youtube.com has deleted his account...

So always download videos to your harddrive
e.g.with:

http://videodownloader.net/

Regards, Stefan.

Stefan

Seems this fellow has vanished and really to bad. But anyhow if anyone saw this could they draw a simple pic of what they saw. This weekend will try to find a steel ball and try the first test.

Wayne

Offline ltseung888

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #91 on: July 14, 2007, 09:59:46 AM »
The following input may be useful to pcockriel and all who want to repeat and improve his experiments.

Refer to the following:
http://www.energyfromair.com/beijing/Wang3a.files/frame.htm

The Wang Shum Ho 5 KW Electricity Generator uses two rotating systems to achieve Over Unity energy.  His device does not use any power input, thus the COP is effectively infinite.

I want to focus on the ferro-liquid rotational system.  Wang used a mixture of metallic powders in the liquid.  One purpose is prevent the powders forming a lump.  Another purpose is for the ferro-liquid to remix on spinning.

Wang is now Vice President of a RMB13 billion Company.  It would be unfair to disclose the "intellectual property" of this Company. 

However, the theory behind the ferro-liquid cannot be patented and should benefit all OU developers and the Whole World.  Ferro-Liquid in the sphere might be used to replace the iron ball.

Lawrence Tseung
Theory of the Ferro-liquid Leads Out solution for pcockriel et al


Offline Freezer

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #92 on: July 15, 2007, 03:35:25 AM »
Seems this fellow has vanished and really to bad. But anyhow if anyone saw this could they draw a simple pic of what they saw. This weekend will try to find a steel ball and try the first test.

Wayne

(http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/4557/ballis5.jpg)

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #93 on: July 15, 2007, 04:26:41 AM »
Ferro Fluid , oh I have to try that with a clear ball .

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #94 on: July 15, 2007, 05:45:57 AM »
IH...  that should be pretty wild.   I saw the video you posted I think it was from a couple of MIT guys playing with some.  That's pretty freaky stuff!  Either that or I had a flashback from a previous Rorschach test...

Dan

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #95 on: July 15, 2007, 05:26:08 PM »
Regarding the Video Youtube buried. Make a torrent file and store it on the server, Original poster will need to keep it active for 4 weeks or so..Members will need to keep a version of Bit torrent loaded to seed, that should save Overunity the bandwidth problems of high quality video....Frankly Unless you play games online Bit torrent does not use much overhead and uploads are free... Try to be a little bit like a community. Pirate bay has some good clips on Torrent and I have some coming albeit slowly, (no seeders). If anyone wants high quality this is the way to go....It also allows members to stuff youtubes police in their boot lockers since everyone can re-load the server.....


This server is not set up to accept "torrent" files so unzip and there will be a torrent///Just an experiment.

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #96 on: July 15, 2007, 08:18:07 PM »
Going to try a  Styrofoam ball  layered in  100 mesh Magnetite and epoxy .
Ferrofuild is on order .Just messing with this till I get it.


Offline magpower

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #97 on: July 17, 2007, 05:12:20 PM »
Update: I got a metal tea ball from the loonie store and plugged all the holes. One note is was not a perfect circle but a cheap test. Using .025 thick by 4" by 10" copper plate and using neos at varying sizes I tried the test. Seemed the steel tea ball just got attracted to steel and showed no signs to rotate. This was floating in water the tea ball. Will try more and weaker magnets, thicker copper etc, no luck.


Did anyone see his last video with wire, copper, tube ? what did it look like!

 :'(

wayne

Offline magpower

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #98 on: July 17, 2007, 07:12:33 PM »
To me it looks like a copper ball in the video, like this one.

Offline TheOne

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #99 on: July 17, 2007, 08:07:41 PM »
the sphere need to be a non magnetic material such as plastic in my opinion

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #100 on: July 17, 2007, 11:34:25 PM »
Tried that using a ping pong ball with steel bearing inside, I think we will never know and there is more to the picture!

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #101 on: July 17, 2007, 11:59:06 PM »
Hey Guys,

Here is a big hint. I think what pcockriel made is essentually a permanent magnet form of a shaded pole motor like this:

(http://www.mpoweruk.com/images/shaded.gif)
http://www.mpoweruk.com/motorsac.htm

notice that the core is magnetized to one polarity and there is a copper ring attached on one side. When the AC current changes the polarity of the core piece, the copper ring has eddy currents induced in it which oppose the magnetization in the core. So in effect one side is stronger than the other. This difference causes the rotor (which is usually a solid piece of metal) to rotate.

The only way I could see this working in a permanent magneti sense is if you use the right kind of metal for the rotor. When the rotor "ball" enters the magnetic field, it becomes magnetized the same direction as the magnet's field (if it's ferromagnetic). If you suddendly rotate the ball through the magnetic field, it takes a certain amount of time for the domains in the metal to realign themselves to the field. So for an instant in time, the ball wants to 'rotate' to realign itself with the field when you spin it. So.... If the metal ball retains it's magnetization for an instant, then it is possible that you could induce a current in the copper plate sitting on the magnet when the ball rotates. But in order for this to work right, the magnetic field from the ball would have to be changing (as viewed from the copper plate) in oder for the copper plate to produce an eddy current that could oppose it. If this happened, then you it may be possible to create a rotation like the shaded pole motor.

Just my 0.02 :)

God Bless,
Jason O

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #102 on: July 18, 2007, 12:11:18 AM »
the sphere need to be a non magnetic material such as plastic in my opinion

Tried that using a ping pong ball with steel bearing inside, I think we will never know and there is more to the picture!

In the first few pages of this thread, Paul made it pretty clear that it is a hollow metal ball that he used, no bearing inside. The steal bearing in a plastic cup which was in the video, was only for demonstration purposes. Freezer's graphic on the previous page depicts the actual mechanism well.

Did anyone else see the other video Paul Cockreil had on youtube of the small glass gravity engine filled with liquid which he describes on page 2 of this thread as:  "I have gave away another Idea that may be easier for everyone, Its so simple a kid could build it, it has two floats in a tube with a weight in the middle,
the weight floats up the tube , the top becomes top heavy and flips over and it repeats forever!!!!!
This is no joke I posted a demo youtube.com/pcockriel..."

The video didn't show the tube spinning long enough to tell if it was continuous as he said it was. I was hoping he would reveal a bit more about it, but he didn't. Mysterious fellow, that one.


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Offline chrisC

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #103 on: July 18, 2007, 12:18:17 AM »
Tried that using a ping pong ball with steel bearing inside, I think we will never know and there is more to the picture!

I tried that too. Different ping-pong ball sizes and steel ball bearing and different cup sizes & material. B. But no cigar! Not even close.

cheers
chrisC

Offline magpower

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #104 on: July 18, 2007, 07:04:29 PM »
Hi PCOCKRIEL,
good work !

By the way,
what are you exactly doing here ?
I looked at it now 3 times but I don?t understand,
what you stick into the copper tube ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd4BtqeEEww

Please advice.
Many thanks.

Question: was this a battery driven device and can please describe what you saw. I never saw this video and I think you were the only one.

Thanks
wayne