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Author Topic: Magnet motor by pcockriel  (Read 46608 times)

Offline chrisC

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2007, 07:38:25 PM »
Paul:

You're awesome! (awesomely simple!).
I'm going to build your floating/spinning ball.
Keep up the good work!

Regards
chricC

Offline tao

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2007, 07:43:54 PM »
Ok the diagram you have here is very close, just loose the ball in the middle, and remember there is only
one ball, also the link to the guy who has the pipe that spins like a cage, that was one of my earlier ideas
but I failed at it, I hope he really did pull it off.


Hey man, thanks for everything.

I was wondering, how long have you let this 'motor' run for?

Offline JamesThomas

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2007, 08:06:35 PM »
Pcockriel:
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Ok the diagram you have here is very close, just loose the ball in the middle, and remember there is only
one ball,


OK then, it's a hollow metal ball, no inner secondary ball bearing needed. They sell, old metal world-globes on eBay. A small 4" or so would probably be a good place to start.

Thanks, Pcockreil, for the reply and clarification. I must say though that your way of expressing yourself seems a little cryptic....at least for me.

j

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2007, 08:08:21 PM »
Any type of metal that is attracted to a magnet, Get That Ball ! it must be hollow. I have sent my motor out of the Usa but I will explain it. The wieght must be Just right. compared to how strong the magnet is.
you can measure the strength by a plastic scale, just place metal under the plastic scale, or just by trial and error. dont get a 1/4 magnet and expect to spin a 10 pound ball that wont float. if you watch videos on youtube on lens law you will find that a magnet travels slow down a hill on copper. this is the only material I can get to work, you may find others but I used copper. I tried lead and all sorts, then discovered lens law, so its worth looking at. the copper thickness plays a big part as well. its a perfect balance between the thickness of the copper and the wieght of the ball float and force of the magnetic
attraction. look I have posted more easier Ideas for the ones intrested. also I will post the type of magnet
the weight and thickness in the future. but I had to post it to let everyone see the path I took to get to this point, thats why I posted the magnet wood frame motor as well, so people could build it and get a better understanding of magnets wieght and thickness all my studys are not in school dorms,
I sit around and practice backyard science (every single day). so im just a person with a drive. I have helped major companys save millions of dollars and never got credit, the managers took the credit.I Had to get my but back to work, Hope this helps I will stop by again in a about a week. Im almost completed with the element rods seen on google, that guy drives me up a wall, but I think I got it I got a bulb to light up for about 20 sec and the bulb blew.  well glad to see thier are others like me see ya.

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2007, 08:15:14 PM »
cryptic is having something to hide or ambiguous meaning  ( then why am I going Public)
Hmm I have to face critics as well...lol

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2007, 08:28:15 PM »
Hollow metal spheres are more difficult to obtain. I wonder if there is an cheaper way to maybe coat the inside of a hollow ball with iron filings - like a pingpong ball. Definately worth a try.

Bronze should work as well. I'm going to try mineral oil for the liquid.

Offline joe

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2007, 08:32:04 PM »
Hello pcockriel,

Thanks for the infos on the spinning balls.

Will you give us an idea on how you elemental rods are working? OR what is in the rod?

Thanks  Joe

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2007, 08:52:35 PM »
cryptic is having something to hide or ambiguous meaning  ( then why am I going Public)
Hmm I have to face critics as well...lol

I did not mean you were hiding anything, Paul. My apologies. I simply meant it was a little puzzling for me, somewhat difficult to understand even though what you were attempting to share was simple. Probably my problem more than yours.

j

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2007, 08:57:18 PM »
Hollow metal spheres are more difficult to obtain. I wonder if there is an cheaper way to maybe coat the inside of a hollow ball with iron filings - like a pingpong ball. Definately worth a try.

Bronze should work as well. I'm going to try mineral oil for the liquid.

You may be on to something here. Plastic can be electroplated with metals: http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/eng99/eng99348.htm

j

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2007, 09:20:27 PM »
also im working on the elemental rod right now
and I got the bulb to light up before the bulb blew out, I posted it as well,Its like I have a brain tumer
The Ideas Just keep coming  lol.

Wow, you mean that works!!!???  I've been interested in that video, but thought it was too good to be true.  What I got from that video was two rods parallel to each other, 1cm in diameter, 10cm height.  One rod being "Tantalum" (Ta)(73), and "Tungsten"(W)(74).  I did a quick search and Tantalum is generally used for electrolytic capacitors.  Tungsten being used for filaments.  It seems like he just has the two rods connected to two leads, is this correct? 

Edit:  Noticed in the video he says it takes a third element to give one a different polarity or something like that.  So we need the third undisclosed metal to make it work.  Other than that it simply looks like a board, two rods, two connectors, and how ever the 3rd element is connected maybe to both or one of the other elements.

Videos he's refering too -

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-635987818295327978&q=elemental+rods&total=50&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4298347669641896403
« Last Edit: July 06, 2007, 05:47:58 AM by Freezer »

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #25 on: July 05, 2007, 09:22:20 PM »
I have gave away another Idea that may be easier for everyone, Its so simple a kid could build it, it has two floats in a tube with a weight in the middle,
the weight floats up the tube , the top becomes top heavy and flips over and it repeats forever!!!!!
This is no joke I posted a demo youtube.com/pcockriel  

This little idea of yours, Pcockriel, may be worth it's own thread: http://youtube.com/watch?v=DJbgFDLj9Mk

As far as the solar-powered Stirling-engine idea video you have posted on youtube, you may want to check this out: http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Stirling_Energy_Systems

I have great respect for backyard scientists like yourself, Paul.

j

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2007, 10:09:20 AM »
why copper? if all we want is to make a magnetic field indifference between a magnet than why not use other materials?

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2007, 10:21:37 AM »
also which is right?

a hollow sphere plastic ball floating in liquid with an iron ball inside.

or is the whole hollow sphere by itself floating in liquid?

why not use a cylinder type of float for this while you're at it? ;) ---update

 :)


peace

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2007, 11:24:05 AM »
Wow sad news guys the spinnig ball has balanced out and stopped we are running into a problem the iron has turned into a magnet and now repels and balanced out. sad sad news

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2007, 11:25:14 AM »
Whoever posted the idea on plasic ball (great Job!!) We are looking into it now