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Author Topic: Magnet motor by pcockriel  (Read 43813 times)

Offline hartiberlin

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Magnet motor by pcockriel
« on: July 05, 2007, 01:17:52 AM »
Hi All,
here is enclosed a video in Flash format
( you need to use www.videolan.org orMediaplayer classic to view it)

from user :
pcockriel.

He just disclosed, how it works:

He has a baker with water and an probably holow iron ball
swimming in it and underneath he has a permanent magnet.
Now he puts a copper plate half to the center underneath the baker
and the ironball begins to spin inside the water.

It seems to be a very simple permanent magnet motor, which is finally
working !

Please try it yourself !
Many thanks.


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Magnet motor by pcockriel
« on: July 05, 2007, 01:17:52 AM »

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2007, 01:18:42 AM »
Here are his youtube videos with more explanations:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nv91OSQyB_I

http://youtube.com/watch?v=EeEhKH47Vdo


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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2007, 02:47:02 AM »
I was wondering if its a thin shelled iron sphere, or a conducting sphere, with a iron ball inside?  In his explanations he shows a iron ball inside a plastic sphere which makes it roll.  I think it should work, but you would need the perfect balance.  The floatation of it has to pull its weight up perfectly and not too much.  It also seems like theres a surface tension effect, as when the ball is rolling inside the beaker, it rubs against the botton and the backside of the glass, which seems to be critical for rotational movement.

One question, where do I get a iron sphere like that?

I also like the speaker idea, as it can produce frequency and a moving magnetic field pulse.

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2007, 02:47:02 AM »
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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2007, 03:11:17 AM »
This is extremely interesting.

Paul, has what seems to be a hollow steel sphere afloat and spinning -- perpetually -- via a stationary permanent magnet, whose magnetic field interaction with the sphere is tuned via a one-time placement of a copper sheet over the magnet. He demonstrates the effect by utilizing a steel ball bearing in a plastic half-sphere. Which is a little confusing at first.

Where to get ones hands on a hollow steel sphere? Earth globes used to be made of hollow thin steel spheres, don't know about now.

I wonder if a floating, hollow steel tube with ends caped would allow for more surface area to react with an even larger magnet beneath, allowing for more power? In other words rather than a sphere spinning, you have a roller or barrel spinning. Would a tube allow for the same rolling effect or reaction with a magnet?

Very interesting. Sorry, already said that.

j


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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2007, 04:15:34 AM »
This is extremely interesting.

I wonder if a floating, hollow steel tube with ends caped would allow for more surface area to react with an even larger magnet beneath, allowing for more power? In other words rather than a sphere spinning, you have a roller or barrel spinning. Would a tube allow for the same rolling effect or reaction with a magnet?

Very interesting. Sorry, already said that.

j

I think this might have some relation to this device.

http://www.keelynet.com/energy/callomag.htm

Note :

"One could build a PPM and then copy it exactly, and it would not work. You MUST see the flux pattern.

I have specifically said you must view these patterns using a box with metal filings. If you build a PPM without doing this, you are very lucky. "John T" has said that he has built the PPM, and I hope that he has done so. He has also said that he has turned a 6 volt generator with it, and I hope that he has done so."

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2007, 04:15:34 AM »
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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2007, 04:27:54 AM »
wow!

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2007, 05:28:53 AM »
pcockriel's claim is that it works due to magnetic viscosity. The outer ball is plastic not iron. I don't think the ball will spin if the magnetic field is constant, but maybe the floating ball provides a destablizing force.

(attached is a diagram of my interpretation, plastic ball is hollow)

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2007, 05:28:53 AM »
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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2007, 06:23:31 AM »
pcockriel,

You said you signed up here at overunity.com on the youtube page,

So, when you get the chance to answer this, please do....

How long have you let this 'motor' run for consecutively?

thanks...

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2007, 07:14:27 AM »
bitRAKE:

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The outer ball is plastic not iron.

Your interpretation was what I walked away with at first too. However, the large spinning ball looks to be metal if you pause the frames of the video. Also the ball bearing in a plastic semi-sphere seemed to be for demonstration purposes only to show the tendency for the bearing to want to roll due to magnetic attraction directed towards its edge. If this is the case, wouldn't a large floating hollow sphere show the same tendency for rolling without the need of any internal ball bearing?

I'm asking because I changed my interpretation from yours to this one, without being completely certain as to which is correct. Paul is not real clear in the video and written instructions.

j

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2007, 07:42:38 AM »
bitRAKE:

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The outer ball is plastic not iron.

Your interpretation was what I walked away with at first too. However, the large spinning ball looks to be metal if you pause the frames of the video. Also the ball bearing in a plastic semi-sphere seemed to be for demonstration purposes only to show the tendency for the bearing to want to roll due to magnetic attraction directed towards its edge. If this is the case, wouldn't a large floating hollow sphere show the same tendency for rolling without the need of any internal ball bearing?

I'm asking because I changed my interpretation from yours to this one, without being completely certain as to which is correct. Paul is not real clear in the video and written instructions.

j

I was wondering this too.  Seems like a larger hollow metal ball would work better, giving more spin, and more boyancy due to more airspace inside.

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2007, 07:47:02 AM »
It would defeat the purpose of his small demo in the video http://youtube.com/watch?v=EeEhKH47Vdo if the sphere was a metal that could be attracted to magnets.

The whole premise of this device is rather interesting:
-When the copper plate is placed under the sphere (half covering the magnet under it), the steel ball attempts to move toward the area not covered by the copper plate.
-This initial movement by the steel ball causes the sphere to rotate as the steel ball it self rotates to try to get to the area not covered by the copper plate.
-So, now, the steel ball does one of two things: It stays in a position just off center in the sphere and closest to the magnet's area and it continues to spin in place, thereby spinning the sphere, OR, the steel ball initially moves toward the area no covered by the copper plate, which causes the sphere to spin, then the steel ball rolls backwards toward the other side of the sphere DUE to gravity, sort of an oscillation setup between the magnet's attraction, the sphere/water's movement, and gravity.

You would think that if the sphere "stays in a position just off center in the sphere and closest to the magnet's area and it continues to spin in place, thereby spinning the sphere" that it should perhaps slow down and this would become a sticky spot. Does the fact that the sphere and magnet are moving already, does this KEEP them both moving? Is it able to keep moving due to the practically no torque on the sphere from the water?

If it is the second option for the steel ball, where it kind of rolls backwards, and then back towards the magnet, and keeps oscillating, how does it keep oscillating? Is the fact that gravity, magnetism, and the sphere's relationship to the water make for a situations similar to Milkovic's two-stage oscillator? (It's a stretch I know)

Just attempting to find the exact 'mechanism for OU', which is what EVERYONE should do when encountering or inventing OU devices..........For, once this mechanism is isolated, it is ALWAYS possible to use this feature to make more powerful devices.

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2007, 07:47:02 AM »
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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2007, 07:51:35 AM »
This is extremely interesting.

I wonder if a floating, hollow steel tube with ends caped would allow for more surface area to react with an even larger magnet beneath, allowing for more power? In other words rather than a sphere spinning, you have a roller or barrel spinning. Would a tube allow for the same rolling effect or reaction with a magnet?

Very interesting. Sorry, already said that.

j

I think this might have some relation to this device.

http://www.keelynet.com/energy/callomag.htm

I think you are dead on!

1. The copper is used as a shield.

2. The Ball magnet is diametric, as I recall all are. To use a rod type magnet in a tube I believe it also would need to be Diametric.

3. Some form of alignment and traction surface on the roller magnets would be helpful.

4. The sphere in flotation is a shock absorber, the same could be achieved with a shaft and a slotted mounting for the shaft with springs or magnetic bearings. (Note there could be a need for +/- from 90deg/verticle)

5. Pcockriel demonstrated the concept using a plastic cup, I doubt that the tube/sphere is limited to metals.

As always your mileage may vary.

Tinker

Great job! pcockriel

Note :

"One could build a PPM and then copy it exactly, and it would not work. You MUST see the flux pattern.

I have specifically said you must view these patterns using a box with metal filings. If you build a PPM without doing this, you are very lucky. "John T" has said that he has built the PPM, and I hope that he has done so. He has also said that he has turned a 6 volt generator with it, and I hope that he has done so."

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2007, 09:26:51 AM »
guys just replicate this experiment and post results asap! this is really exiting!  :o ;D :D :)

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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2007, 12:29:01 PM »
Harti,

attached is an AVI file.

Please look at:  http://www.smallvideosoft.com/
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Freez Flv to AVI/MPEG/WMV Converter version v1.5

Enjoy, Earl
Hi All,
here is enclosed a video in Flash format
( you need to use www.videolan.org orMediaplayer classic to view it)

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Re: Magnet motor by pcockriel
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2007, 07:34:23 PM »
Ok the diagram you have here is very close, just loose the ball in the middle, and remember there is only
one ball, also the link to the guy who has the pipe that spins like a cage, that was one of my earlier ideas
but I failed at it, I hope he really did pull it off.

 (The fields balanced out when I try it),
 I never went to college or took any classes on this, The gangs were to bad as I grew up so I tought myself , well anyway I have gave away another Idea that may be easier for everyone, Its so simple a kid could build it, it has two floats in a tube with a weight in the middle,
the weight floats up the tube , the top becomes top heavy and flips over and it repeats forever!!!!!
This is no joke I posted a demo youtube.com/pcockriel also im working on the elemental rod right now
and I got the bulb to light up before the bulb blew out, I posted it as well,Its like I have a brain tumer
The Ideas Just keep coming  lol.

 

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