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Title: Boyd Bushman
Post by: Freezer on July 04, 2007, 12:23:14 PM
Perhaps we can try out some of this guys theories.  Very interesting demonstration with this cell.  The magnet experiment he talks of sounds very interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92_KmTkbfqM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZMzHTERr-E&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP5JgG1-0jg
Title: Re: Boyd Bushman
Post by: Freezer on July 05, 2007, 06:59:00 AM
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Title: Re: Boyd Bushman
Post by: ring_theory on July 07, 2007, 07:03:05 AM
Ok all this is interresting. Let me add to the experiment Add a spin factor to the balls.
Title: Re: Boyd Bushman
Post by: Freezer on July 07, 2007, 03:45:48 PM
http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/C/celt.html

Perhaps Bushman was alluding that gravity acts like this celt?  Perhaps the spin is cancelling out by this method.  All interesting stuff.  Makes my mind hurt :D
Title: Re: Boyd Bushman
Post by: pese on July 07, 2007, 09:14:49 PM
2 magnets will neutralze "both" himself  if you presses
2 magnets of the same name polarizes  to each other  !!

hes loses the power in short time!
Pese
Title: Re: Boyd Bushman
Post by: TheOne on July 07, 2007, 09:54:09 PM
http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/C/celt.html

Perhaps Bushman was alluding that gravity acts like this celt?  Perhaps the spin is cancelling out by this method.  All interesting stuff.  Makes my mind hurt :D

http://www.shinyshack.com/product.php?prid=211112&pn=Rattleback
Title: Re: Boyd Bushman
Post by: ring_theory on July 08, 2007, 02:15:54 AM
2 magnets will neutralze "both" himself  if you presses
2 magnets of the same name polarizes  to each other  !!

hes loses the power in short time!
Pese

I tend to dissagree on that neutralize thing and loses i don't think applies when two magnets of the same strength, composition, and form apply. Define permenant magnet. It will be a constant struggle of repulsion for the fields bieng caged in this configuration. but I doubt it would demagnetize any due to the same strength. it would require a stronger field. In this configuration the opposing fields would be pinched and follow the path of least resistance. which would be radially outward. not sure how this will effect the poles that are on the outside of the configuration. I am sure they will be deformed by the opposing fields predicament.
   
Title: Re: Boyd Bushman
Post by: pese on July 09, 2007, 11:35:05 AM
2 magnets will neutralize "both" himself  if you presses
2 magnets of the same name polarizes  to each other  !!

hes loses the power in short time!
Pese

I tend to dissagree on that neutralize thing and loses i don't think applies when two magnets of the same strength, composition, and form apply. Define permenant magnet. It will be a constant struggle of repulsion for the fields bieng caged in this configuration. but I doubt it would demagnetize any due to the same strength. it would require a stronger field. In this configuration the opposing fields would be pinched and follow the path of least resistance. which would be radially outward. not sure how this will effect the poles that are on the outside of the configuration. I am sure they will be deformed by the opposing fields predicament.
   

IF this 2 Magnets are (before) with differen forces :

So the stronger magnet will lose (an part)
the second magnet will will REVERS this polority  and take the  forces , that
the -first- =stronger have losed inthis "action".

Nice experiment !!

Try it.

(With "soft iron magnets" this "go" in faster time, because the magnetic-capacity is lower from them

Pese
Title: Re: Boyd Bushman
Post by: ring_theory on July 10, 2007, 02:08:14 AM
I'm going to try to replicate this. The three drop items i'm going to be useing are 1/4 x 1/8 N42 disc magnets. Not toroid as boyd described. probably will fail as the toroid leaves the axis void of a physical field and gives the displaced repulsion field a place to be focal.

anyways 1st drop item is two disc magnets superglued N fields touching. second drop item will be two disc magnets superglued N-S fields touching. 3rd drop item will be just an iron blank the same weight as the other two drop items.

Any predictions?
Title: Re: Boyd Bushman
Post by: Freezer on July 10, 2007, 03:38:30 AM
I'm going to try to replicate this. The three drop items i'm going to be useing are 1/4 x 1/8 N42 disc magnets. Not toroid as boyd described. probably will fail as the toroid leaves the axis void of a physical field and gives the displaced repulsion field a place to be focal.

anyways 1st drop item is two disc magnets superglued N fields touching. second drop item will be two disc magnets superglued N-S fields touching. 3rd drop item will be just an iron blank the same weight as the other two drop items.

Any predictions?

Well,  I'll take Bushman's word that the two opposing norths will take the most time before hitting the ground.  I think the N-S will be the same as a iron blank.  Maybe try two opposing souths as well.  Perhaps what part of the globe you are on will affect it.  How high of a distance are you gonna drop the weights? 

Maybe we could setup two opposing electromagnets and measure the effects when putting a massive amount of power through it.
Title: Re: Boyd Bushman
Post by: ring_theory on July 10, 2007, 04:48:05 AM
Ok. will do a S pole repulsion one as well. The drop will be 12-15 feet. Eastern iowa, USA is the geographic location. I'm not real scientific minded when it comes to recording data. Will be dropping them 10 times.

My predictions are all will fall at the same rate (probably due to no toroid). But on the off chance that the disc will replicate the effects. I predict that the N opposing, will fall slower. The S opposing will fall faster. The slug will fall as predicted by newton. The N-S will fall same as the slug.   
Title: Re: Boyd Bushman
Post by: lwh on July 10, 2007, 06:18:01 PM
Hey all.

Hate to be back-seat driver, and I know it's probably more convenient, but 12-15 feet doesn't sound high enough.

Les.
Title: Re: Boyd Bushman
Post by: ring_theory on July 10, 2007, 07:24:32 PM
@ les

The roof is too steep to get any higher of a drop. I could literally go out on a limb. I'm not feeling safe with that. I'll seek alternatives and resources.