Brnbrade & Bruce:
A couple of weeks ago, you had a set-up with a vertical large magnet positioned over the coils. What is the difference between what you showed to what is here? Can you please draw a simple circuit and some more information about the sound?
It does look a lot simpler than a TPU/ECD, deceptively simple.
Also where/how is the loop closed?
Thanks
chrisC
There is a definate mobius on the thin wire on both ends.
Brnbrade was a student of Erfinder also. Brnbrade does not speak English well.
So we have coils
Large Magnet
oscillations
Mobius on both ends
DC Input / AC Output
Large voltage output
Unknown amperage
Brnbrade is going to hook up a light bulb, and take a picture. He is also going to borrow an amp meter. I do not know when this will be done. I for one am facinated.
The red wire appears to be 12 awg solid. The thin wire seems to be braided. Someone else will need to give type and size.
Cheers,
Bruce
Hi Earl,
My setup only has steel cores on it. 1018 if I remember right. The coes are 2" in diameter so I never tried to find magnets that big to replace them with :D.
God Bless, Jason O
Hi Marco,
that is interesting. Will see if Brnbrade or others can get it to work. My image was drawn by looking at Brnbrade's photos, so he is definitely having some results. One puzzling thing, it looks like he only has a voltmeter as load and that is not all that much to keep the action going. The patent says the output must always be loaded after a kick start.
Also his first circuit presented is completely different than the present one.
Did you try both ferric and magnet cores?
Regards, Earl
hi all,
am i misinterpreting something or reading something into this from another thread that bruce was posting on. the thing that caught my eye was the idea of basically trappong the bmef between two diodes. is that right or what? once the diodes trap the bemf then it suddenly spikes and is trapped until the second coil is shorted. then the output which was 1.5 volts dc in is suddenly 52 volts ac on the second coil.
"DAMN THE (AMP) TORPEDOES, FULL SPEED AHEAD!"
lol
sam
ps: shuttin up shuttin up.
sorry for the confusion. on my part, but does this possibly have something to do with brnbrade's device, or his results? are there capaciteance issues? what frequency ac are we seeing? how many watts is the stereo putting out? what is the max output of the stereo unit, and where waws the volumn set? gosh i wish i was there live! it is looking like everytime i'm not i may be missing history in the making!
Hi Jason,
From the patent text, it is clear that the more you break the core up into smaller and thiner wires, the better. It appears to me that a massive, solid core is the exact opposite of what you want to do: many fine iron wires as core. Fence wire maybe.
Regards, EarlHi Earl,
My setup only has steel cores on it. 1018 if I remember right. The coes are 2" in diameter so I never tried to find magnets that big to replace them with :D.
God Bless, Jason O
Hi all
Somebody please can draw a schematic of as one
mosfet could drain amper of the red wire.
Thank. :)
I need scheme of the mosfets for drain the amps.
Regards
Hi All,
Please see attached patent. If this works, it is about time to warm it up !!
Regards, Earl
My scheme ;D
:o :P
Just some additional info on Daniel McFarland CookThanks Dan. Available for free in pdf. Got to love the internet!
Read Harold Aspden's - The Physics of Creation
Chapter 9 - Pages 202 - 208
He deals with the capacitance scenario along with Cook's patent....
Cook also had patent on Galvanic Battery as well.
Dan
Hello Brnbrade,
Nice pictures of your light bulb! It looks like you may be onto something here! I am excited about this as everyone else here is, but there is one thing I wanted to know about the sound input. I may have missed the earlier posts referring to it, but what are you using for the sound input? Is it coming from something like a sound card on your computer or an audio amplifier? We must also take into consideration the power supplied by the sound input as we all know you can have amplifiers that can output anything from 6W to 400W+ easily depending on the type. (The average sound card outputs between 1W to 5W on the speaker jack; Ref: http://www.pcmech.com/show/multimedia/160/).
I'm also interested in knowing what you are using a MOSFET for in your setup.
God Bless,
Jason O
Hello Brnbrade,@ Jason and All
Nice pictures of your light bulb! It looks like you may be onto something here! I am excited about this as everyone else here is, but there is one thing I wanted to know about the sound input. I may have missed the earlier posts referring to it, but what are you using for the sound input? Is it coming from something like a sound card on your computer or an audio amplifier? We must also take into consideration the power supplied by the sound input as we all know you can have amplifiers that can output anything from 6W to 400W+ easily depending on the type. (The average sound card outputs between 1W to 5W on the speaker jack; Ref: http://www.pcmech.com/show/multimedia/160/).
I'm also interested in knowing what you are using a MOSFET for in your setup.
God Bless,
Jason O
The talk goes around the Farland Cook patents has been deliberatly changed.....
I do not know the reference source of where i heard it, but i am sure it was about these particulair coils.
Draining which amps?
Yes, will test the behavior of the mosfet in circuit.
I will try in output the red wire of the device
@ All
Please remember, with brnbrade's coils, His primary is of fine wire and is ON TOP of the larger wire, unlike you see in the patent. ;)
And top coil primary, to bottom coil secondary. Bottom coil primary to top coil secondary in mobius fashion. The same on the other side.
Cheers,
Bruce
@ Jason & Earl
Yes, Earl's drawing is good, but a few things need to be added. The thin 1000 wrap primary is ontop of the larger 12 awg. solid wrapped wire, which is wrapped first, and then the other wrapped over it.
...
@ Earl,
You are also missing the wires from the stereo. In the picture these are the things that look like jumper cables, hooked to the bulb.
@All
Knowing the larger wire is on the top, is troubling, even though the input is DC. And also I think that we need to know where the two YELLOW wires go to. A picture of the radio and ALL the wires would be a help in believablity. Also, the zero reading voltmeter is a concern. :-\
Cheers,
Bruce
Bruce,
I doubt the thick primary is wound first, are you sure?
From the photos it makes sense it's wound over the fine secondary. The secondary coil, with the fine small wire, is also wound over a larger length of the rod.
I think the confusion came in over what PRIMARY means, as in FIRST :)
So the FIRST winding he put down, or the PRIMARY in his vocabulary, we actualy call it the secondary, due to the higher number of turns and thinking about transformer conventions.
EM
Hi EM,
I don't think there is any confusion here. A primary doesn't necessarily have less winding than a secondary. It only refers to the input of the transformer. The secondary will have more turns than the primary in a step up transformer, but obviously not in a step down unit.
Jacob
The talk goes around the Farland Cook patents has been deliberatly changed.....
I do not know the reference source of where i heard it, but i am sure it was about these particulair coils.
Yes it was. And you heard it from me Marco. I made that claim a few times and the reason is simple. When you read the patent, it refers to elements in the drawing that are absent from the document. Therefore the conclusion that the drawing has been altered by simply erasing some of the circuit elements.
Jacob
Bruce, why don't you anotate my zoomed in photo. What do you mean? Place some labels on it.
I would think if he wanted to trick us he would use the yellow wires, but you never know. Let's hope he wasn't out to have a good laugh on us. :D
EM
@btenzer
Keep cool.
The battery lines are going to the yellow going to the terminal then to the two coils in mobius.
The orange are going to the light along with the two probes from the meter.
@ Jacob, EM and ALL
I now STRONGLY suspect DECEIT in the picture of the bulb. I need someone to confirm the following:
If you blow the picture up large, (it is of high resolution) you can see the three input prongs of the light bulb. AND NONE OF THEM have ANY INPUT from the two orange wires.
The ONLY INPUT is from the BATTERY CABLE connectors. This would explain why no volt reading (not hooked up, would give it away) AND why the wires go off of the table to no-where!!
I am never quick to dismiss nor quick to believe, but I have to dismiss this based on the photo, unless someone sees something I have missed... >:(
Bruce
The talk goes around the Farland Cook patents has been deliberatly changed.....
I do not know the reference source of where i heard it, but i am sure it was about these particulair coils.
Yes it was. And you heard it from me Marco. I made that claim a few times and the reason is simple. When you read the patent, it refers to elements in the drawing that are absent from the document. Therefore the conclusion that the drawing has been altered by simply erasing some of the circuit elements.
Jacob
Jacob, if you would be so kind, can you provide a reference for your claim.
I scanned the patent over and I don't see any references to other figures besides Figure 1 and Figure 2. (I used www.pat2pdf.org) Perhaps you have a hard copy with a different text? By the way, the No 16 and No 30 referenced in the document mean wire number, or size, or gage, not a part number on some missing figure, at least that's the way I read it.
EM
Stefan,
Just to respect Steven can you move this to somewhere other that Steven Marks TPU devices.......it just aint..and has no place here .
Stefan,
Just to respect Steven can you move this to somewhere other that Steven Marks TPU devices.......it just aint..and has no place here .
I mean, if it would of been AC, it would of made more sense, but DC output? How in the world is that getting generated?
Aluminum foil? Well, I would say that it's a filter for the mag fields. Only SLOW VARRING FLUX WILL PENETRATE, HIGH FREQUENCY WILL BE REPELLED. And yes, it blocks E-fields as well, but we're dealing with DC now, not AC.
Much as I apprecite Bruce's help, inaccurate translations is as bad as injecting extra stuff or conjecturing on the behalf of the 'inventor'.
Question: How did you measure the amps?
Answer: No mesure. I no amper reader.
This is strange, his meter can do Amp readings as well, does he not know how to use it? As in "I no good at reading meter?"
Hmmm
EM
EM:
That statement was made a couple of weeks ago when he first posted his discovery and he did not have access to a ammeter.
chrisC
I'm afraid I have big doubts about this device being ou.
Darren
Jacob,
If you saw the orange wires soldered to the bulb leads, that does restore my faith, very much. I am looking for some aluminum for I am going to build this two coil deal this week.
And then I will know. I think there is sufficient information to replicate. We just need to know if he still has the capacitor between the batteries and input.
Cheers,
Bruce
And no magnet either it seems...
Does the oscillation eventually dies out (when the capacitor is fully discharged) or does it continues to run? On the second picture, the voltage looks very low, so I guess it is on its way to depletion.
Jacob
He say that secret is booting the device :) Be patience.
Regards,
Doug
And no magnet either it seems...
Does the oscillation eventually dies out (when the capacitor is fully discharged) or does it continues to run? On the second picture, the voltage looks very low, so I guess it is on its way to depletion.
Jacob
Yes, the load reads ouver the 50v and decrease slowly, and persist 15v to 16v ???
@brnbrade
what kind of iron rods did you use ?
Are these some kind of welding rods ?
Are these thoriated rods , so do these contain radioactive
elements ?
2. Did you use alufoil or aluminium tubes around the coils ?
Many thanks.
Hi Stefan
what kind of iron rods did you use ?
Iron
Are these some kind of welding rods ?
No. common iron
Are these thoriated rods , so do these contain radioactive
elements ?
no, I will put pemanente magnetic in the core in the future
2. Did you use alufoil or aluminium tubes around the coils ?
Alufoil
Yes, Core -> insulating -> aluminium -> insulating -> fine wire coil -> insulating -> aluminium -> insulating -> Thick wire -> insulating -> enjoy
Many thanks.
Hi all
I ask all that to want. Replicate and all can help that device develop.
The friends that possess oscilloscope and tools readers advanced, can help in the walk.
Regards
I'm afraid I have big doubts about this device being ou.
Darren
Darren,
Unless there is a hidden wire somewhere, how could you possibly light a 50 watts bulb with such brightness with only 2 A cells?
Jacob
Hi Darren,
he posted his schematic over here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2630.msg37778.html#msg37778
He tried to replicate the
MacFarland patent and now used alufoil as an additional layer and seems to have succeeded.
It seems to be the alufoil, that makes the difference.
I guess if we can get a selfrunner this way, it is easy to scale
up to over 50 Watts and I guess this will be a great device for the OverUnity Prize ?!
Hi Darren,
he posted his schematic over here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2630.msg37778.html#msg37778
He tried to replicate the
MacFarland patent and now used alufoil as an additional layer and seems to have succeeded.
It seems to be the alufoil, that makes the difference.
I guess if we can get a selfrunner this way, it is easy to scale
up to over 50 Watts and I guess this will be a great device for the OverUnity Prize ?!
Stefan, I already saw that. It is just a reiteration of the Cook patent. Am I missing something?
Where are the capacitors, the audio inputs, the battery, the transistor? etc. etc.
That is not a complete or accurate drawing of what he has there.
Darren
thanks for the layer description Brnbrade, that helps.
I started winding but I missed an aluminum layer, so I got to take it apart and fix it.
Darren, he says the trick is in how you start it. I thought about this and it could be quite interesting. I bet we can do a model of this in PSpice, etc..
EM
@ All
Funny thing, I remember SM telling all of us to use mosfets to reproduce waves as if they were mini tube amps. I have said that about, Oh, 20 times or so. But this is coincidence I am sure... ;)
@ All
Funny thing, I remember SM telling all of us to use mosfets to reproduce waves as if they were mini tube amps. I have said that about, Oh, 20 times or so. But this is coincidence I am sure... ;)
Sorry Bruce
At no time did Steven ever say to all of any body to use mosfets...he only ever said to me that he used them after using tubes for initial tuning. That is the information ,in context,that I shared.
I know that you are excited But
please do not mis quote..and re interperet...this will be hard enough as it is.
thanks.
Lindsay Mannix
I know that you are excited But
please do not mis quote..and re interperet...this will be hard enough as it is.
I am testing all of the types possible of configurations.
Attempts and mistakes. And in this it goes and it comes I saw strange things.
The capacitors seem to hold the load for 12v to 16v. This dissipating energy.
Starting up may be a problem if the two signals with just the right phase relationship are not known. Better to hit it with some random signal and see what happens?
Guys,
You have to look at this attached pdf file about US patent 119825 issued in... 1871. I found this thanks to a link posted by lynx2000. It is extremely interesting. Here are a few quotes from it:
"My invention relates to the combination of two or more simple or compound helices (coils - i.e.: control coils) and iron cores (collectors) or magnets in such a manner as to produce a constant electric current without the aid of a galvanic battery."
About the collector equivalent:
"The iron core may be a solid bar or a bundle of iron wire (i.e.: multi-strand wire), the latter giving higher tension..."
And guess how we start the power generation process with this setup...
"The mode of producing or starting the action in the helices consist in the use of a steel (i.e.: permanent) or electro-magnet..."
This thing can be started with a magnet!!!! And it is physically identical to the TPU : an outer coil, an inner coil, and a collector. Plus, it is easy to build, so easy to test.
Enjoy!
Jacob
Unless I missed something, it is rather difficult to do this without a drawing or schematic of what you have connected there. Why not post a drawing instead of a photo?
May I suggest for your own sake, and for the sake of others here trying to replicate and help you develop this (you did ask for people to replicate), that you STOP what you're doing at this point and draw out what you have done. Call this v1.0 if you like, but at least have one documented starting point.
It would take you no more than 5 minutes to scratch this out on a piece of paper, take a photo of it, and post it here.
OR, you can keep the frenzie going here by holding back as you mentioned. The choice is yours.
By the way, are you using any transistors or MOSFET's in this device?
Darren
It would not be too difficult to power a 12V, 50W bulb for a few minutes from 2 AA batteries with the right circuit. Keep that in mind folks.
Darren
What Brnbrade is showing here is very very important indeed.
Four variations have been shown thus far.
1) Coils + 3v Battery, DC-DC 58 vdc out.
2) Coils + 3v Battery + Sound (two channel positive only) DC-AC 250V out.
3) Coils + Cap (330 uf 200v) + Cap (62 pf or uf(hard to see) 400v about 4-7v ac out
4) Coils + 4 Caps (hard to see values) about 20v ac out
BEP,
You have to think differently about this. There is no need to inject signals into this device.
Hi All:
Did a small test tonite of a bifilar wound coil. Reason I feel it belongs here as well is that the internal core is, you guessed it, aluminum solid 1/4". Was mainly seeing what would be the difference with an AL core as opposed to a CU core. Well output around 80v. Signals input from opposite ends.
Now this is the part that is weird. Rod is 24" long with 4 layers of twin #20 stranded. Scope is on each end of the rod. This AL thing is starting to push my imagination around a bit. Anyhow, Bruce... so here is two ocurances of the opposite signal injection showing great results.
The other coil was the same idea but bifilar wound on a pitsfield coil with a whole lot of turns of wire wound around the center hole at 90 degrees to the bifilar pair.
sugra
So now he has it running on caps?
Well, I have my plate in front of me. All of my words are piled on it.
If someone can replicate these results and explain it, I'll eat every last one.
Anxiously waiting.
The "taking a break for two weeks" thing is familiar, though. The diagram, shouldn't be that hard to scribble out in notepad. How frustrating.
Earl, in your diagram, should power be input via the primary and output via the secondary, to the next device's primary? (which may or may not be inverted)
Rich, no power should be input. It is the Creator's aether which is the input power. The only thing necessary is to perturb its equilibrium and then it will start oscillating by itself. This assumes that your losses are not excessive (and that this device works). I suggest everyone reading Harold Aspen's talk that he gave at the Berlin FE conference. He refers to the Cook patent and presents his own idea how to build a device using high voltage and cross-linked concentric capacitors. You could say his idea is the dual of Cook's idea. Either low voltage with coils or high voltage with concentric capacitors. He explains his concept of aether. Highly recommended to read the last part where he talks about Cook as well as his concentric capacitor idea and how he sees aether.
You do not need batteries nor stereo, nor anything. Just a perturbing impulse to start it going and a permanent load to keep it from stopping.
Bruce, please add the PDF from Harold ASPEN to your post #1 on Page 1.
Regards, Earl
Basically what you have done is a couple conductors with chokes in them..
brnbrade, please post a cct before you leave for your break. if you have no ammeter, that's fine someone else can replicate and test if you post your cct.
I need your help here. I have no idea how this would be possible. Because it would imply pulling upward of 10-15 amps from those small batteries and maintaining that draw for a few minutes. Plus, let's keep in mind that there is no high speed switching component being used here. Can you please explain how it can be done. Thanks!
It would not be too difficult to power a 12V, 50W bulb for a few minutes from 2 AA batteries with the right circuit. Keep that in mind folks.
Darren
Rich, no power should be input. It is the Creator's aether which is the input power.
@ALL
I will no longer post any more "Theories" of operation on page 1. Only build information to assist replication.
Happy Days! :)
Bruce
@ Chris, Thank you...Kind of! LOL Please reread BOLD above. Thank you! Cheers.
@ALL
I will no longer post any more "Theories" of operation on page 1. Only build information to assist replication.
Happy Days! :)
Bruce
Hello BEP,
@ EVERYONE
I concur completely with BEP on this. Build to specs first. Then try to understand. Then "size it up!" My favorite part!! ;D
Happy Days! :)
Bruce
It would not be too difficult to power a 12V, 50W bulb for a few minutes from 2 AA batteries with the right circuit. Keep that in mind folks.
Darren
Darren,
I need your help here. I have no idea how this would be possible. Because it would imply pulling upward of 10-15 amps from those small batteries and maintaining that draw for a few minutes. Plus, let's keep in mind that there is no high speed switching component being used here. Can you please explain how it can be done. Thanks!
Jacob
Bruce, how is your build coming?
Darren
The talk goes around the Farland Cook patents has been deliberatly changed.....
I do not know the reference source of where i heard it, but i am sure it was about these particulair coils.
i also experimented with these and i never got it to work.
Marco.
The talk goes around the Farland Cook patents has been deliberatly changed.....
I do not know the reference source of where i heard it, but i am sure it was about these particulair coils.
i also experimented with these and i never got it to work.
Marco.
Anyone ever notice that McFarland speaks of a 'circuit D' in the diagrams, but there ISN'T anything labeled 'D' in his patent.
Perhaps that is where the idea that the patent was modified came from?
Our friend seems to have gone silent...
A good sign. Brnbrade is busy winding and soldering.Our friend seems to have gone silent...
A good sign. Brnbrade is busy winding and soldering.Our friend seems to have gone silent...
Hmm,
So Bruce knows what brnbade is thinking, and Earl knows what Brnbade is doing.
Perhaps the two of you together then could produce a drawing of brnbade's coils, since you have these connections to his mind?
Already done, see page one, post one.
Earl
btw, our friend appears to be online as I post this.
Earl,
I already saw your drawing yesterday.
If your drawing is complete and as per brnbade's build, then why are there question marks and unconnected parts on it ??? I wouldn't be asking if one of the builders could kindly produce a drawing, if one already existed that was complete.
If we go by the 4 variations that have been identified, it looks like you have attempted to draw #1....Coils and battery.
So what's left to be determined, is where the battery is connected, and if there are any additional connections to terminals 1 and 3. Does anyone know?
Darren
Earl,
I already saw your drawing yesterday.
If your drawing is complete and as per brnbade's build, then why are there question marks and unconnected parts on it ??? I wouldn't be asking if one of the builders could kindly produce a drawing, if one already existed that was complete.
If we go by the 4 variations that have been identified, it looks like you have attempted to draw #1....Coils and battery.
So what's left to be determined, is where the battery is connected, and if there are any additional connections to terminals 1 and 3. Does anyone know?
Darren
Darren
There are only four options. Pick one! LOL an experimenter can try each one. We are not "blueprint" bound. Sheeesh..Just build it for yourself, or hold your pipes! (every pun intended) Someone soon will reproduce hopefully and draw you a "proper" schematic ready for the "simulator".. ;D
@BEP,
what is Al varnish ?
@BEP,
what is Al varnish ?
Aluminum or Aluminium varnish is a protective coating applied to metals. You see varnish of another sort on magnet wire - very thin almost plastic like coating.
Al varnish is made to protect Aluminum and prevent oxidation. I suspect it causes oxidation to form initially - as part of that process.
Here is my coil, if you're curious.
The label is old but it is clear it has no form of Aluminum in it.
I just realized something folks. Look carefully at the photo above that EM posted. Look at the coil connections!. It is not wired dual parallel. It is wired in quadrature feedback mode. All four coils are wired as a ring not as deduced on the build page!
Hmmm, I'll have to go buy some solid iron rods and do it correctly this time.
BEP, interesting theory about the 90 degree phasing. Yes, I can belive that.
EM
Well folks, that pretty well settles it for me.
By his own admission, he is only doing "tests", seeing "strange" things, and not here to "save the world".
He doesn't sound like someone that has overunity in their grasp.
EM has seen strange things also, but that doesn't mean there is excess power being produced anywhere. Also, how much electrical or electronics experience does this young man have? Some things that seem strange to an inexperienced person, may be "old hat" to others.
Darren
I am trying to be kind. Please leave us in peace.
Thank you.
I am trying to be kind. Please leave us in peace.
Thank you.
Actually, I was being kind.
You....just don't want to face or can't handle the simple truth, believe everything without question, and have no idea what objectivity is.
I don't recall brnbade ever saying he had "overunity" at hand, however he has you to thank for introducing his work as such... and the frenzy that has ensued.
By the way... stars work on fusion, not fission(thermonuclear), and fusion can be a quick process in a low density star, say, 100 jupiters or so. They go red quickly. Nothing new there. It has never been thought that stars worked via fission.[
You will note, the same thing happened to otto, before ronotte got sick of it all and drove to his house to work with him and document.
The same thing happened to macedonia cd. Finally we ignored him because he did not document.
@Jacob,
will move this thread again to the TPU thread, when I am again at my PC tommorow. Am now only on my PDA.
@Jacob,
will move this thread again to the TPU thread, when I am again at my PC tommorow. Am now only on my PDA.
Just a small amount of respect for Steven would be to leave it here or create a "cook coil replication". That is what it is..
The tpu works..differenty.
I really wish you guys well with this cook coil ,I needs some research thats for sure and if it were at least round perhaps there would be some similararties.
THIS IS NOT A TPU!
Other than an old speaker magnet in the picture..I do not see it.
Am I losing my basic common sense and courtesy here?
Hi Rich,
Sure, it would have been better if Brnbrade had uploaded a 3-D CAD drawing that we could rotate in all directions, look at cross sections, parts list, and even center of gravities. But he did not. We have to live with that. Sometimes life is not served on a golden plate. Yes, I am well aware of the frustration factors. Some people have the philosophy that:
there are no problems in life, only solutions.
Everyone makes their decisions based on sensory inputs. People go in different directions, have different pet theories, have great interest in some projects and zero interest in others. This is fantastic. We have a fantastic forum, great people, and we appear to be gaining in knowledge and making progress. Let us keep the happy, happy days!
Regards, Earl
Message from Brnbrade,
Doug56 can you please translate this ?
Thanks.
Ol? Stefan.
Estou lendo as mensagens dos colegas.
Muitos me atacando, como se meu dispositivo fosse o que iria salvar todos. ? apenas testes.
Eu sei que ele n?o ? auto sustentado nem algo melhor que campos magneticos girando ECD. Mais pude observar que coisas estranhas acontecem nele e alguns est?o percebendo isso. E minhas fotos n?o s?o trapassas.
N?o viria em um forum me passar por idiota a ponto de ser o salvador do mundo.
?nica mensagem agradav?l ? de EMDevice conseguiu ler 60hz de saida de onda senoidal. Isso se n?o for ironia dele.
O que eu posso dizer. gostaria que voce estivese aqui e visse pelo seus proprios olhos o que minhas bobinas est?o fazendo.
@Builders
Did you guys see my post (Page 27 - Reply 268) with photo showing the terminal names so we can talk the same language. Did any of you try the small test? There is definitely something here and will require further testing.
Hi ALL,
I've carefully read the Farland text and despite some of the text and diagram being missing I am sure of the following as per the Farland arrangement:
1. There is only one metal bar.
2. The coils are placed on this one metal bar.
3. The sense of the turnings on the coil and therefore the placement of N-S is crucial. This point is stressed in the patent.
The first image shows the arrangement as per the Farland TEXT.
The second image shows that to get from the Farland arrangment with one iron bar to the brnbrade arrangement with two iron bars, you need to rotate the coil set B 180 degress, which obviously changes the N-S position - so be doubly sure your coils don't need rotating 180 degrees and reconnected accordingly.
This arrangement makes sense on a number of levels as the magnetic field now becomes additive and the currents all flow in one direciton creating a magnetic field and a current that flows round in a circle. Note at the same time the capacitative elements surmised as the missing text and diagram by Brnbrade still apply.
Hope this helps - I'll be trying this out at the weekend.
Cheers Bob.
Maybe Brnbrade had the coupling via his magnets at the left side ?
Besides all this noise, noise , nosie.
THIS IS NOT A TPU!
Other than an old speaker magnet in the picture..I do not see it.
Am I losing my basic common sense and courtesy here?
Last point, but you are not going to like it. Stop talking about SM. He is a total distraction to this endeavor. Stop talking about him and start using your own brains. There is over 9000 posts on SM so what more is there to say? Take back your power. THIS IS NOT A TPU, THIS IS AN ECD. The only power that SM's TPU is drawing in, is your will power. Every few posts and someone starts saying SM said this, SM said that, Enough already. I feel like we're being wacthed by the SM police. Who's spending all these hours, days and months? The guy's a loser for having shafted the world and you guys venerate his every word. I can say alot about this but will not say more here. Stefan, I know. Stay tuned to a new thread near you.
@gn0stik
What is disrespectful is showing the world you have a working TPU and then hiding it and then hiding behind some-else. Whatever could be said or done on this board is but a tip of a needle compared to the level of such disrespect for the world. Bahhh. 9400 posts and still counting. Call Guiness - quick. Stay tuned to a thread near you.
@Brnbrade
Back to things that really matter. I have asked if it is possible to provide the capacitor values in your tests. On page 20 of this thread, Reply #198, I have posted your pictures with numbers Trial #1 to #5. If you could please refer to these pictures and provide the cap values, this would be minimal for those who have done as you asked to build the device, and we need this to do your replication. Now if your intervention is a learning process, those cap values are part of the process.
As for your second trials, this is very fine, but while you do this, we can at least replicate your first trials. I also understand why you are doing this is to obtain output stability. Farland said this device is like a battery, and like all batteries, I suspect they eventually die. But it is a very good base to build on and we thank you for that.
Also, having a social life is fine. We all have that too, but you came to this board to show and you asked us to build, now we need the cap values to finalize. This is minimal and would take only 5 minutes.
Thank you in advance.
@bob.rennipsI would agree that Farland uses the terms primary/secondary in opposite sense to what we normally understand.
Thanks for your info, but geez, if you look at Brnbrade's unit, mine is exactly the same, same winding directions and same connection points. Also on Farlands patent, his Figure 2 is identical to mine. But, I will try the other way when I get home as with other configurations, since Brnbrade has not indicated the cap values, etc. I'd like to know what type of capacitor he is using in Trail #1 and #2, please.
As for the core, in the patent Farland states " The iron core A may be solid bar or a bundle of iron wire, the latter giving higher tension to the current with equal length and fineness of wire.
Also, would you agree that when Farland refers to the Primary, he means our secondary and vise versa.
Lastly, for start-up Farland refers to the possibility of using a magnet, an electro magnet or by winding a second Primary on the coils. This sounds like a good idea and can be done easilly. I think this is what Brnbrade has highlighted in his reply #265 on page 27.
Hi all
My secund test.
My secund device is named MagicCoils v2.0 ;D ... I accept suggestions ;)
I will begin in this project the most didactic. Step by Step.
I only want the friends' patience, I have social life and time for many other things.
Not only besides experiments.
Don't replicate before my tests...
Voyl?
@brnbrade, please confirm whether or not Earl's diagram is correct. Also if you have any details to add about where the bat is connected that would be nice. Also what type of radio did you use when you powered your coil with a radio? And was the output speaker output or headphone output.
If you want to answer in portugese or spanish that's fine.
Rich
Hi Brnbrade,
can you please document your device some more ?
Also can you rebuild 2 more devices and see, if they will
also work ?
Many thanks.
The instructions we have thus far are insufficient. Nobody is attacking anyone, just asking for the whole story. Simple questions are easy to answer. But so far they have been sidestepped by the only person who should be comping at the bit to answer them.
@Brnbrade
As for your second trials, this is very fine, but while you do this, we can at least replicate your first trials. I also understand why you are doing this is to obtain output stability. Farland said this device is like a battery, and like all batteries, I suspect they eventually die. But it is a very good base to build on and we thank you for that.
Also, having a social life is fine. We all have that too, but you came to this board to show and you asked us to build, now we need the cap values to finalize. This is minimal and would take only 5 minutes.
Thank you in advance.
I can actually help here...even though...well you know, its interesting at least..
The aluminum foil technique is called "faraday shielding"it is very common and aluminum is the best thing for this...look up pulse induction metal detector coils. the spacing of this shield is critical in detector coils. [snip]
Lindsay Mannix
Earl,
This would explain why I get nothing. I will re-wind two more tonight that way.
Odd question, the patent looks to have tubes, would the Aluminum tubes not be a short? Maybe there is a cut in they can did not make the patent to protect Cook?
Patents are often writen and drawn not to give out all secrets. Also the claims have to be writen very intelligently, as broadly as possible, and to cover things without mentioning them.
Yes, a solid alu tube with no slit would present a one-turn short circuit.
Have fun. Regards, Earl
Only weird thing I get is if I use one certain post on mine, the meter goes right to 0VAC, like a short.
And I used all coated copper wire.
Will rebuild tonight, have steel rod now too. Maybe find re-bar today.
Dear Brnbrade...
My suggestion is to answer the polite and patient questions from your forum research colleges about the exact test setup where the H4 auto lamp is brightly glowing. Many want to duplicate this, but you are ignoring them. By quickly moving on to another experiment, you give me the impression that you are playing games.
Respectfully, Earl
Sorry Bruce, but even good natured, patient Earl, can be pushed too far.
Also, BEP found this out, that the AL varnish turned out to be a marine product to prevent metal/saltwater problems. I am still trying to find some. This is what I am going to build with.This is commonly refered to as "anti-fouling bottom paint". It is used mostly on pontoons and other aluminum hulled boats. It is caustic, and requires a special applicators license to purchase. It does have aluminum oxide, which helps prevent electrolysis, as fiberglass bottom boats use copper oxide. When owners mistakenly put this wrong paint on their aluminum hulls, they make a nice waterline high battery which removes the pontoon from the paint, and often the boat from the surface of the water.... The idea is as the bottom paint wears away due to abrasion from salt and minerals, and general friction, the aluminum (or copper) oxide prevents the barnacles and slime from growing on the hull. Some of the newer ablative anti-fouling paints contain a form of pesticide, but often don't work well.
I think we all agree this must be an oscillating system. This in turn means the wire lengths, including the wire connecting the coils together MUST BE identical in each coil set, other wise one coil set will have a different resonance frequency to the other, and as you want one coil set to 'ping' the other coil set they both have to be identical. As you know at resonance the impedance is effectively 0, leaving only the wire resistance.
No joy in my experiments - on this front.
I used identical lengths of wire for the primaries - which means the length of the coils are identical, and identical lengths of wire for the secondaries. Identical sized aluminium foil.
Bob, did the alu foil form a one-turn short-circuit or did you slot it axially respectively insulate the turns so that no turn touches another? If the alu layer has a short from one layer to the next, it would reflect enormous losses into the coils.
With and without capacitors. Wires connected every which way. I've tried sparking with 12v battery and with an ignition coil!. I've used pvc tape as the insulation. Magnet in every known position to man!
did you try magnetically "sparking" the iron with an electromagnet? In worst case, glide a wire along a metal file to "buzz" the electromagnet with interrupted pulses.
As far as I can see the only unknown is how brnbrade sparked his coils into life. As far as I'm concerned it's in brnbrade's hand if he wishes to provide this information. I've pm him in spanish, portuguese and english concerning this.
I think it was great to see the collaboration and energy from everybody in getting diagrams, references and other required items together. Having now read the Harold Aspden information I am even more convinced that the electric field/coil capacitor route is a valid avenue to pursue. Aspects of what brnbrade was doing with his coils will be incorporated into later experiments.
It could very well be that even in 1871, essential information was being left out of patents. My opinion is that it could even work without an iron core. In this case, it would oscillate perhaps in the MHz region. No problem today with oscilloscopes, which was not the case in 1871. In an air-core version, it may be necessary to use HF litz wire to reduce skin-effect losses.
I have a 20 kV DC power supply, so I am toying with the idea of building up Harold Aspen's idea, with no Cook coils. I have some long lengths of copper water tubing of different diameters that could be held centered with bits of plexiglass. I may also have some lengths of alu tubing.
Did you read Dr. Aspen's latest update from June 2007?
Have fun this weekend with your experiments, and may the force be with you.
If you've not had a chance take a look at the 'talking about phase' thread. Bob Boyce pretty much spells out what he has achieved with a TPU style arrangement of coils, and how he did it. Note that a key ingredient was to bias the output coil with 150+ DC volts in order for the excess energy to be realised. i.e. finding the circuit potential.
Hi all,
I pretty much have the parts to give it a try, the only thing I don't have yet is the Al varnish.
Now. Is this thing supposed to have Al in it or not?
The one that BEP used or talked about in earlier pages had no Al contents.
But according to TKM (if I got it right), the Al varnish used for boats have Al in it.
Since noone knows for the moment what really brnbrade used, can those who, already replicated the coils, tell me what did you use?
Or what are your suggestions?
Thanks,
Greg
If Cook made this patent 8 years before Edison invented the light bulb, this means he must have been working on it for years before that to perfect it. So he did not know anything about AC, since Tesla was only 15 years old in 1871. So Cook was producing AC and he did not even know it, always callng it current, tension, etc. But the device is also producing DC since I ran a 90V DC motor off the load end with 3 volts. Yes it was turning extremly slow - 3 volts worth. But they did not have capacitors then like Brnbrade is using.
Cooks was talking about coils with up to 12 inch iron cores and up to 12 feet long. Talk about pocket size. He must have had one big chiropractor bill. He was using different wire gauges for different uses. But he really liked using very very thin wire for the secondary and very very thick wire for the primary.
Brnbrade showed on Trial #1 an AC current and on Trial #2 a DC current. But both Trials were identical. Everything was the same. He just turned the voltmeter selector dial from AC to DC and took another picture. Nothing changed. How is that possible? His device was producing both AC and DC.
This weekend I'll build another unit with solid core and different wire ratios, more extreme between sec/pri.
But for now, back to the ECD.
I have the sempsation that brnbrade will not post the details of his finding :'(....
Hi Earl,
Yes the foil was taped in place just short of a full circle so there wasn't a one turn loop or short circuit.
If I measure an unconnected 12V battery with a digital volt meter on the AC volts setting it records 32V AC!
An oscilliscope shows that the plates of the battery pick up a 0.2V 50hz AC wave from the ambient mains field (Australia 50Hz). This is enough to throw the meter into a tizzy!!
So maybe the AC volts measurements (although high) is just the coils picking up ambient AC fields and the voltmeter screwing up ?
He needs an oscilloscope.
Cheers, Bob
I don't know why the number 8 came out as a smiley.
@Earl
I'll take two Rat Races to go. The circuit looks great. Can it do reverse polarity?
Actually I think I will get myself a Pulse Generator since my electronic skills are to limited and I always look to pulse devices with DC.
@BEP
Good work. We'll stay tuned.
I sprayed my tower primer on a hot-rolled iron rod and let it dry. The only thing interesting was when I passed current from the iron to the coating - the current vs. time looked like a tunnel diode. Not very clean at all but the shape was there. The main component in the primer is zinc. I connected to the rod with an alligator clip. My connection to the coating was cat-whisker style with a nickel plated steel wire.
I just read a few posts back about wrapping the foil in a way it did not short on the other side. That reminded me of an old fractal antenna experiment I tried a very long time ago.
PC board etched as follows:
2 circles - one within the other
each not complete
the open ends faced 180 from each other
a wire passed through the center and not making contact with either circle
pass current through the wire
oscillation occurs between the incomplete circles - damped but distinct and longer lived than expected.
So I dropped it and found a better way.
Now have multiple incomplete circles each connected to the metal below and above it (in layers - I say connected because the chemicals in the primer eat at the varnish on the wire) with a
crude negative resistance diode (tunnel). Would the results be interesting? Would Aluminum particulates do something similar? I don't know and won't find out until late this weekend.
My electrolitic capacitor is so awesome, it doesn't even need a coil to start going up in voltage :)
EM
you have to measure the voltage coming from the sound first
Also your wiring is not like my current builds but you can try the start-up method and see what happens.
Cook patent mentions that a wire core will give more tension. meaning current or amperage, hence less potential or voltage. More windings means more potential.
...to raise the tension of the terminal current...
...to increase the terminal voltage...
We have the necessary information.
Now it is building RMF. ;)
Look at Trial #1 again more closely, you will see that they are wound the same.
Hello all
tesla practiced these same methods
Tanks
@jacob
I could say the same thing about the TPU after so many years.
With the exception that here is someone who does not hide behind someone else, comes forward, and shows us some interesting work...
Hmm,
any other idea how we can bring BRnBrade to speak more to us ?
I don?t want to ban or chase him away over here, but his lack in
answering any questions is a bit annoying...
brnbade,
Perhaps you might try putting yourself in the shoes of the people here that had faith in what you were saying to them from the beginning. They did not question your authenticity. They gave you the benefit of the doubt, and you let them down.
So, if you were them, how would you be feeling right now?
Talvez voc? p?de tentar p?r-se nas sapatas dos povos aqui que tiveram a f? em o que voc? lhes dizia do come?o. N?o questionaram seu authenticity (genu?no). Deram-lhe o benef?cio da d?vida, e voc? deixou-os traga.
Assim, se voc? fosse eles, como voc? estaria sentindo direito agora?
brnbade,
If you were only testing your device, that is ok.
If you were getting a COP of 10 with your device, that is ok.
If you did not want to tell people how exactly to make the device you were showing, that is ok too.
If you are achieving a COP of 10, then of course people here will want to build it too. But if you do not want to provide the complete instructions, then you must say that also. If you do not say this, people will expect that you will provide the information.
Do you see why the problems resulted? It is important to state your intention at the start.
Se voc? estiver testando somente seu dispositivo, aquele ? aprovado. Se voc? estiver conseguindo um ganho de 10 com seu dispositivo, aquele ? aprovado. Se voc? n?o quiser dizer a povos como exatamente o fazer ao dispositivo estavam mostrando, isso ? aprovado tamb?m.
Se voc? estiver conseguindo um ganho de 10, a seguir naturalmente os povos aqui querer?o construi-lo tamb?m. Mas se voc? n?o quiser fornecer as instru??es completas, ent?o voc? deve dizer aquele tamb?m. Se voc? n?o disser este, os povos esperar?o que voc? fornecer? a informa??o.
Voc? v? porque os problemas resultaram? ? importante indicar sua inten??o no in?cio.
Yes, the problems appear because I did not wait the certain time. I am going to post in two or three weeks the diagram. More the situation is hostile for the lack of patience, communication and time.
brnbade wrote:QuoteYes, the problems appear because I did not wait the certain time. I am going to post in two or three weeks the diagram. More the situation is hostile for the lack of patience, communication and time.
Yes you have assessed the situation correctly.
But, it is important to say at the beginning that you will provide diagrams in two or three weeks. You must understand that people would like to build your device at the moment you tell them, not three weeks later.
So next time, I encourage you to state your intention with your first post. Be honest and say that you will not provide the diagrams until you are ready.
Sim voc? avaliou a situa??o corretamente.
Mas, ? importante dizer no come?o que voc? fornecer? diagramas em duas ou tr?s semanas. Voc? deve compreender que os povos gostariam de construir seu dispositivo neste momento que voc? lhes diz, n?o tr?s semanas mais tarde.
Vez assim seguinte, eu incentivo-o indicar sua inten??o com seu primeiro borne. Seja honesto e diga que voc? n?o fornecer? os diagramas at? que voc? esteja preparado.
Darren
....
Especially interesting is section 5-65... I do believe he is "intimating" that it is possible
to get overunity with this? Even without the McFarland-Cook coils.
What the Flux (or should I say multiple flux lines) do we have here?
Hmmm...
Dan
@ Jacob
Sinto muito. Nada a declarar para voc?. Venha ver meu despositivo trabalhando.
? facil levantar um nome e apontar um dedo. Eu iria postar meu diagrama como prometido em duas ou tres semanas, mais n?o sabem esperar.
Copiar ideias ? f?cil. E fazer funcionar? Eu consegui...
? engra?ado. Todos que est?o tendo sucesso est?o sendo devorados vivos por alguns. Alguns que s? teorizam. bal bla bla
SM foi grandioso e astuto, mas n?o vejo sua tecnologia disponivel para n?s.
Hello all,
sorry to jump into this discussion like an ...... I have just 1 question:
Whats the distance between the 2 iron cores with the windings????
I didnt see that mentioned.
Otto
Hello all,
sorry to jump into this discussion like an ...... I have just 1 question:
Whats the distance between the 2 iron cores with the windings????
I didnt see that mentioned.
Otto
Hello Otto,
I can be wrong, but I don't think it's been mentionned. Actually, Brnbade setup is very rough and he said very little about it. As you can see from the posted pictures, components are held by chewing gum, playdough or something similar. And you can tell that these coils were winded quickly without too much consideration for details. He won't be able to fine tune his design with this level of workmanship.
Jacob
Hello all,
sorry to jump into this discussion like an ...... I have just 1 question:
Whats the distance between the 2 iron cores with the windings????
I didnt see that mentioned.
Otto
Hello Otto,
I can be wrong, but I don't think it's been mentionned. Actually, Brnbade setup is very rough and he said very little about it. As you can see from the posted pictures, components are held by chewing gum, playdough or something similar. And you can tell that these coils were winded quickly without too much consideration for details. He won't be able to fine tune his design with this level of workmanship.
Jacob
WOW, Jacob.
Give the kid a break!
All due respect to Steven Mark, but many of the devices in his videos aren't exactly works of art either...and they seem to work just fine.
Darren
Silent? I see posts from him all over the place here at OU. Just not here.
sugra
brnbade wrote:QuoteYes, the problems appear because I did not wait the certain time. I am going to post in two or three weeks the diagram. More the situation is hostile for the lack of patience, communication and time.
Yes you have assessed the situation correctly.
But, it is important to say at the beginning that you will provide diagrams in two or three weeks. You must understand that people would like to build your device at the moment you tell them, not three weeks later.
So next time, I encourage you to state your intention with your first post. Be honest and say that you will not provide the diagrams until you are ready.
Sim voc? avaliou a situa??o corretamente.
Mas, ? importante dizer no come?o que voc? fornecer? diagramas em duas ou tr?s semanas. Voc? deve compreender que os povos gostariam de construir seu dispositivo neste momento que voc? lhes diz, n?o tr?s semanas mais tarde.
Vez assim seguinte, eu incentivo-o indicar sua inten??o com seu primeiro borne. Seja honesto e diga que voc? n?o fornecer? os diagramas at? que voc? esteja preparado.
Darren
N?o postarei mais. Diante desta situa??o me calarei.
Melhor ser bom observador.
Estarei aqui montando o resto do quebra cabe?a, mas n?o postarei mais nada.
Hello all,
sorry to jump into this discussion like an ...... I have just 1 question:
Whats the distance between the 2 iron cores with the windings????
I didnt see that mentioned.
Otto
Hello Otto,
I can be wrong, but I don't think it's been mentionned. Actually, Brnbade setup is very rough and he said very little about it. As you can see from the posted pictures, components are held by chewing gum, playdough or something similar. And you can tell that these coils were winded quickly without too much consideration for details. He won't be able to fine tune his design with this level of workmanship.
Jacob
@ Jacob
Sinto muito. Nada a declarar para voc?. Venha ver meu despositivo trabalhando.
? facil levantar um nome e apontar um dedo. Eu iria postar meu diagrama como prometido em duas ou tres semanas, mais n?o sabem esperar.
Copiar ideias ? f?cil. E fazer funcionar? Eu consegui...
? engra?ado. Todos que est?o tendo sucesso est?o sendo devorados vivos por alguns. Alguns que s? teorizam. bal bla bla
SM foi grandioso e astuto, mas n?o vejo sua tecnologia disponivel para n?s.
Brnbade,
You maintain that you do have something real. Well, I am ready to trust you on this. But you need to substantiate your claim. Either your lighted halogen bulb picture is genuine, in which case, please tell us more about it. Or your picture is not genuine, and you need to say so.
So here is the question plain and simple: The bulb picture that you've posted implies that you are getting a very high COP (10 or more) from your setup. Is this real or not?
It is obvious from your latest posts that you do understand english, and that you can write whole paragraphs in Portugese. So there is no communication barrier.
It's ok if you don't want to tell everyone about "the special ingredient" that makes you coil behave much differently than any other. I'll do it. But please clarify the situation. Tell us more about more about what you are observing when the bulb lights up. If you say nothing, it's only natural to assume that you are a fraud. Even your email is inacurate (unless you've corrected this problem, have you?). You must admit that it doesn't look too good...
Jacob
Jacob & some:
I never understood your attitude towards Brnbrade.
When we were youngsters, our parents or elders would often tempt us with words like: "If you're a good boy, I'll give you a candy!".. Now as adults, you say to the young man: "If you don't tell us how you did this or that, we'll ostracize you!"
He has told you he'll release his information in good time. How many times do you need him to say it? For crying out loud! Nobody in this forum owes anybody an explanation. He is perfectly entitled to do what he wishes or not. I don't think he's lying. Maybe he really has discovered something no one has yet to be able to reproduce?
If you're a good boy and be patient and stop bad-mouthing people, then maybe he'll give you a candy!
Regards
chrisC
So here is the question plain and simple: The bulb picture that you've posted implies that you are getting a very high COP (10 or more) from your setup. Is this real or not?
Eu postei todas as informa??es necess?rias aqui.
N?o importa se foi colado com massa de modelar (Chiclete).
O importante ? que o meu dispositivo funcionou.
N?o tem nenhum "ingrediente secreto". Eu s? furei a bolha. O aether ? maravilhoso.
Jacob & some:
I never understood your attitude towards Brnbrade.
When we were youngsters, our parents or elders would often tempt us with words like: "If you're a good boy, I'll give you a candy!".. Now as adults, you say to the young man: "If you don't tell us how you did this or that, we'll ostracize you!"
He has told you he'll release his information in good time. How many times do you need him to say it? For crying out loud! Nobody in this forum owes anybody an explanation. He is perfectly entitled to do what he wishes or not. I don't think he's lying. Maybe he really has discovered something no one has yet to be able to reproduce?
If you're a good boy and be patient and stop bad-mouthing people, then maybe he'll give you a candy!
Regards
chrisC
Personally, I think we need to either ignore him if we(me, you, others) think it is fake, and leave him alone, or use a little more tact. Tenacity is fine. But he's not pissing in anyone's cheerios here here. Up until a little while ago, the questions asked of him were tough questions but they were questions asked without malice, or rudeness. I think we should have kept it that way, we're all adults.
Brnbrade says:
Eu postei todas as informa??es necess?rias aqui.
N?o importa se foi colado com massa de modelar (Chiclete).
O importante ? que o meu dispositivo funcionou.
N?o tem nenhum "ingrediente secreto". Eu s? furei a bolha. O aether ? maravilhoso.
Translation:
I posted all the necessary informations here. It does not matter if it glued with modelling mass or bubble gum. The important point is that my device WORKS. It does not have any "secret ingredient". I only pierced the bubble. Aether is wonderful.
Hi wattsup
O que estou fazendo aqui ? mini vortex dentro dos rolos de cozinheiro.
Pode parecer piada para alguns, mas ? exatamente o que todos aqui est?o
procurando.
O modo que voc?s est?o fazendo ?: trocar campo magn?tico em transformadores mobius.
O al?minio no meu dispositivo tem uma fun??o importante. N?o ? somente isolador do dipositivo.
Ci?ncia do vortex diz, elemento est?tico forte, anula campo magn?tico e cria vortex driver.Regards
Hi wattsup
What I have making here is mini Vortex inside of the cook coils.
It can seem joke for some, but it is exactly what all are looking for.
The way that you is making is: to change magnetic field in mobius transformer.
The aluminum in my device has an important function. It is not only devices insulator.
Vortex Science says, strong static element, cancel magnetic field and creates driver Vortex.
Regards
thanks Doug, that would be a better translation. So it "works" that's great. Let's hope that means Over Unity
@wattsup
Thanks for the posting. I believe Brnbrade has discovered some anomaly which he is trying to further experiment. No one in their right mind will spent this amount of time trying to hold up a deceit. Like Otto suggested, it may be structure orientation & spacing issue specific to these coils. I'll give him room and space and afford him some courtesy.
Regards
chrisC
@Earl
If this new build winds up being a dud, don't worry, I'll take it apart and redo another one. But do you have any basis for isolating the alu foil turns? Everything goes at this stage and there are many variables to consider but you have to start somewhere.
I'll be mixing the black goop from dry cell batteries into conventional clear shelac. If the effect is what I suspect then it'll be the same as Al varnish.
Does the speed of voltage change with different or no capacitance?
The changing voltage sounds like a good sign - It tells me your coils are connected correctly.
... Maybe I'll try Kraft paper.
Or maybe I'll just wait out the three weeks (two weeks left haha) until Brnbrade comes back. This will give me some time to work out more ECD tests like my ECD+ idea.
Unless someone has a better idea, at this stage, I am stumped.
Well I did my modifications on my build #2 but nothing special. Same old same old. Voltage rises to around 9vdc. Light a small bulb, goes down, and starts going back up again.
... So all in all, the build in question is not good...
Regular Cook coil?
I'm hopeing my will be regular if that means working like he said it should.
Don't loose hope in it. I didn't understand the importance of magnetic circuitry until mine started putting out seemingly perfect square waves with battery DC input.
If I can reproduce this effect when I repair them this weekend I'll post details so others can help figure how it does it.
It is becoming clear that magnetic circuits are analogous to electric circuits and have the same importance in design. I haven't even tried adding caps. The only resistors i used were to limit current initially.
@All
OK, here it is, the CBC-V2.0. I will eventually put up the revised build spec on this one.
I finally decided to keep the whole thing untapped. This way I can try different primary coil lengths by just rolling them on a separate rod and then simply slipping them onto the core.
The present Primary has 35 turns. The secondaries in this picture are connected in the cross mode.
Thus far, nothing special to report. Same old same old...
...The truth is that all the magnetic theories of today are wrong, and it is because of the mathematics they use to describe electrons. This maths does not allow them a complete picture.....
The object, which
has been kept in view, is in all cases simply to state
the facts which have been observed, and to generalize
them only so far as the progress of discovery
has fully authorized.
He also talks about multiple 'currents' and the way they travel and effect the others"Currents" ---- plural ---- more than one type of current, Tesla also speaks of "currents" in a plural sense, meaning more than one and more than one type. And in fact we know of two types of current ---- current like from a battery and an inductive discharge current which produces a voltage RISE based on the amount of resistance it encounters. I have been experimenting with this mechanism for a while but still can't resolve the issue of the dampened wave. I am fairly confident that all of these patents are using what Tesla refered to as "undampened" waves, an undampened wave is just what the name implies, a wave which will NOT diminish in strength over time. But as always there is probably a very simple aspect of these devices we are missing I have yet to nail down.
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Hello brnbrade,
How are you? Wish to say something?
Gyula
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