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Re: The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?
« Reply #420 on: July 10, 2007, 02:24:46 PM »
Hello all,

sorry to jump into this discussion like an ......   I have just 1 question:

Whats the distance between the 2 iron cores with the windings????

I didnt see that mentioned.

Otto

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Re: The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?
« Reply #421 on: July 10, 2007, 04:38:46 PM »
Hello all,

sorry to jump into this discussion like an ......   I have just 1 question:

Whats the distance between the 2 iron cores with the windings????

I didnt see that mentioned.

Otto

Hello Otto,

I can be wrong, but I don't think it's been mentionned. Actually, Brnbade setup is very rough and he said very little about it. As you can see from the posted pictures, components are held by chewing gum, playdough or something similar. And you can tell that these coils were winded quickly without too much consideration for details. He won't be able to fine tune his design with this level of workmanship.

Jacob

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Re: The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?
« Reply #422 on: July 10, 2007, 06:15:42 PM »
Hello all,

sorry to jump into this discussion like an ......   I have just 1 question:

Whats the distance between the 2 iron cores with the windings????

I didnt see that mentioned.

Otto

Hello Otto,

I can be wrong, but I don't think it's been mentionned. Actually, Brnbade setup is very rough and he said very little about it. As you can see from the posted pictures, components are held by chewing gum, playdough or something similar. And you can tell that these coils were winded quickly without too much consideration for details. He won't be able to fine tune his design with this level of workmanship.

Jacob

WOW, Jacob.

Give the kid a break!

All due respect to Steven Mark, but many of the devices in his videos aren't exactly works of art either...and they seem to work just fine.

Darren

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Re: The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?
« Reply #423 on: July 10, 2007, 08:45:10 PM »
Hello all,

sorry to jump into this discussion like an ......   I have just 1 question:

Whats the distance between the 2 iron cores with the windings????

I didnt see that mentioned.

Otto

Hello Otto,

I can be wrong, but I don't think it's been mentionned. Actually, Brnbade setup is very rough and he said very little about it. As you can see from the posted pictures, components are held by chewing gum, playdough or something similar. And you can tell that these coils were winded quickly without too much consideration for details. He won't be able to fine tune his design with this level of workmanship.

Jacob

WOW, Jacob.

Give the kid a break!

All due respect to Steven Mark, but many of the devices in his videos aren't exactly works of art either...and they seem to work just fine.

Darren

Brnbade has gone silent Darren. In his absence, all we can do is speculate. And all I am saying is that if he is trying to do what I think he is, then the built-in level of precision is insufficient to produce the desired results.

Jacob

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Re: The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?
« Reply #424 on: July 10, 2007, 09:05:48 PM »
Silent?  I see posts from him all over the place here at OU. Just not here.

sugra

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Re: The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?
« Reply #425 on: July 11, 2007, 12:08:26 AM »
@Stefan

I have made more experiments with my device using frequencies from my PC amplifier that will be shown in follow:

1- I measured again the amplifier output and discovered that the output voltage is the same one of the input. That is, if I get 5 volts on device output is because the PC amplifier is placing 5 volts in device input. When I measured in the first time, I think that plug don't very well connected and I showed a erroneous reading. Sorry.

2- Any way, I placed a 82 ohm resistor in paralel to device output and the voltage fell to zero.

3- I used a portable MP3 player, and I got zero in headfones output when playing a music or fixed frequencies. I connected the MP3 and in device and again I got zero volts in device output. I think that this because the plug that I used is with problems. I will try later with another plug.

4- I try replicate the wattsup experiment, loading a 2200 uF 35V capacitor with 3 volts per 15 seconds. I removed the capacitor from power supply and connected in the device and the charge continues lowering, even so very slowly. I believe that this if must to the proper capacitor nature and that briefing it will arrive to zero volts.

I think that in the first experiments (item 1) the voltage that I am reading is the same one due to some type of amplifier current scape.

If the Brnbrade experiments had really worked, then I am making something wrong. Or my device was mounted in different way of Brnbrade or I am don't make device boot. (Or both). I also try connect two batteries (3v) to a capacitor as showing in first in Brnbrade and conect to device, but I get only the same 3v.

I will study more regarding the Cooks device and I will mount another one using another materials if is worthwhile.

@Otto

I have made several experiments using differents distances between the coils and din't have any results changes.

Regards,

Doug

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Re: The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?
« Reply #426 on: July 11, 2007, 01:15:20 AM »
@Doug56
okay, if you did not at least get 0.5 to 1 Volts when you connected
the 82 Ohm resistor, your output was not due to any power generation
inside your cook coils,just maybe some mikrowatts only grid induction..

But Doug, maybe you can try again with a 1 KOhm load resistor ?


So I would like to hear now from user Wattsup,
what happens, if he will connect a 100 Ohm resistor to his output ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?
« Reply #427 on: July 11, 2007, 03:12:15 AM »
Silent?  I see posts from him all over the place here at OU. Just not here.

sugra


I went to see his last post, and it belongs to this thread, as shown below:

brnbade wrote:

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Yes, the problems appear because I did not wait the certain time. I am going to post in two or three weeks the diagram. More the situation is hostile for the lack of patience, communication and time.

Yes you have assessed the situation correctly.

But, it is important to say at the beginning that you will provide diagrams in two or three weeks. You must understand that people would like to build your device at the moment you tell them, not three weeks later.

So next time, I encourage you to state your intention with your first post. Be honest and say that you will not provide the diagrams until you are ready.


Sim voc? avaliou a situa??o corretamente.

Mas, ? importante dizer no come?o que voc? fornecer? diagramas em duas ou tr?s semanas. Voc? deve compreender que os povos gostariam de construir seu dispositivo neste momento que voc? lhes diz, n?o tr?s semanas mais tarde.

Vez assim seguinte, eu incentivo-o indicar sua inten??o com seu primeiro borne. Seja honesto e diga que voc? n?o fornecer? os diagramas at? que voc? esteja preparado.

Darren

N?o postarei mais. Diante desta situa??o me calarei.
Melhor ser bom observador.
Estarei aqui montando o resto do quebra cabe?a, mas n?o postarei mais nada.

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Re: The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?
« Reply #428 on: July 11, 2007, 03:35:16 AM »
Hello all,

sorry to jump into this discussion like an ......   I have just 1 question:

Whats the distance between the 2 iron cores with the windings????

I didnt see that mentioned.

Otto

Hello Otto,

I can be wrong, but I don't think it's been mentionned. Actually, Brnbade setup is very rough and he said very little about it. As you can see from the posted pictures, components are held by chewing gum, playdough or something similar. And you can tell that these coils were winded quickly without too much consideration for details. He won't be able to fine tune his design with this level of workmanship.

Jacob

@Jacob

very rough and he said very little about it.

Eu postei todas as informa??es necess?rias aqui.
N?o importa se foi colado com massa de modelar (Chiclete).
O importante ? que o meu dispositivo funcionou.
N?o tem nenhum "ingrediente secreto". Eu s? furei a bolha. O aether ? maravilhoso.

Regards


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Re: The Ever Silent Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?
« Reply #429 on: July 11, 2007, 06:29:29 AM »
@ Jacob

Sinto muito. Nada a declarar para voc?. Venha ver meu despositivo trabalhando.
? facil levantar um nome e apontar um dedo. Eu iria postar meu diagrama como prometido em duas ou tres semanas, mais n?o sabem esperar.
Copiar ideias ? f?cil. E fazer funcionar? Eu consegui...
? engra?ado. Todos que est?o tendo sucesso est?o sendo devorados vivos por alguns. Alguns que s? teorizam. bal bla bla
SM foi grandioso e astuto, mas n?o vejo sua tecnologia disponivel para n?s.

Brnbade,

You maintain that you do have something real. Well, I am ready to trust you on this. But you need to substantiate your claim. Either your lighted halogen bulb picture is genuine, in which case, please tell us more about it. Or your picture is not genuine, and you need to say so. 

So here is the question plain and simple: The bulb picture that you've posted implies that you are getting a very high COP (10 or more) from your setup. Is this real or not?

It is obvious from your latest posts that you do understand english, and that you can write whole paragraphs in Portugese. So there is no communication barrier.

It's ok if you don't want to tell everyone about "the special ingredient" that makes you coil behave much differently than any other. I'll do it. But please clarify the situation. Tell us more about more about what you are observing when the bulb lights up. If you say nothing, it's only natural to assume that you are a fraud. Even your email is inacurate (unless you've corrected this problem, have you?). You must admit that it doesn't look too good...

Jacob

Personally, I think we need to either ignore him if we(me, you, others) think it is fake, and leave him alone, or use a little more tact. Tenacity is fine. But he's not pissing in anyone's cheerios here here. Up until a little while ago, the questions asked of him were tough questions but they were questions asked without malice, or rudeness. I think we should have kept it that way, we're all adults.

If he did have something, it's lost to us now. That's for sure. If not, then no big deal
Oh well. There are other fish to fry. 

Rich


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Re: The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?
« Reply #430 on: July 11, 2007, 06:58:04 AM »
Jacob & some:

I never understood your attitude towards Brnbrade.

When we were youngsters, our parents or elders would often tempt us with words like: "If you're a good boy, I'll give you a candy!".. Now as adults, you say to the young man: "If you don't tell us how you did this or that, we'll ostracize you!"

He has told you he'll release his information in good time. How many times do you need him to say it? For crying out loud! Nobody in this forum owes anybody an explanation. He is perfectly entitled to do what he wishes or not. I don't think he's lying. Maybe he really has discovered something no one has yet to be able to reproduce?

If you're a good boy and be patient and stop bad-mouthing people, then maybe he'll give you a candy!

Regards
chrisC

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Re: The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?
« Reply #431 on: July 11, 2007, 07:23:26 AM »
Hello all,

this question was not for brnbade but for the builders.

Again Im pocking on the distance between the 2 iron cores or the 2 "systems" to say it in this way.
There must be an interaction.

In the TPU the people dont see an interaction in the height of the TPU. Fine for me. Then I will ask you all, why is a 6" TPU 1 3/4" in height???? Why not 2" or 1 1/2"????

Its because the interaction!!!!

In our case here there is also an interaction. With properly builded coils, the right position of the coils.....you will see the interaction.

You can think about this and about me what you want but be sure, Im right.

Otto

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Re: The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?
« Reply #432 on: July 11, 2007, 08:28:33 AM »
Jacob & some:

I never understood your attitude towards Brnbrade.

When we were youngsters, our parents or elders would often tempt us with words like: "If you're a good boy, I'll give you a candy!".. Now as adults, you say to the young man: "If you don't tell us how you did this or that, we'll ostracize you!"

He has told you he'll release his information in good time. How many times do you need him to say it? For crying out loud! Nobody in this forum owes anybody an explanation. He is perfectly entitled to do what he wishes or not. I don't think he's lying. Maybe he really has discovered something no one has yet to be able to reproduce?

If you're a good boy and be patient and stop bad-mouthing people, then maybe he'll give you a candy!

Regards
chrisC

Hi Chris,
yes, I guess you are right.
Brnbrade just said, he wants first to make a few more tests untilhe will
publish more.

So let us just have more patience and care in the meantime about our own
experiments or about a few other things.
If Brnbrade will not come back, then maybe in the meantime somebody else will win the
OverUnity Prize ???
;)

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?
« Reply #433 on: July 11, 2007, 04:21:08 PM »

So here is the question plain and simple: The bulb picture that you've posted implies that you are getting a very high COP (10 or more) from your setup. Is this real or not?



Eu postei todas as informa??es necess?rias aqui.
N?o importa se foi colado com massa de modelar (Chiclete).
O importante ? que o meu dispositivo funcionou.
N?o tem nenhum "ingrediente secreto". Eu s? furei a bolha. O aether ? maravilhoso.


Why do you ignore this question Brnbade? It's an easy one. I am not asking for a schematic. You've posted a picture, and didn't a word about it.

Jacob & some:

I never understood your attitude towards Brnbrade.

When we were youngsters, our parents or elders would often tempt us with words like: "If you're a good boy, I'll give you a candy!".. Now as adults, you say to the young man: "If you don't tell us how you did this or that, we'll ostracize you!"

He has told you he'll release his information in good time. How many times do you need him to say it? For crying out loud! Nobody in this forum owes anybody an explanation. He is perfectly entitled to do what he wishes or not. I don't think he's lying. Maybe he really has discovered something no one has yet to be able to reproduce?

If you're a good boy and be patient and stop bad-mouthing people, then maybe he'll give you a candy!

Regards
chrisC

ChisC,

Hey, I am just asking Brnbade to please tell us if this picture is genuine or not. And I am saying that if he doesn't, his credibility will suffer. What's wrong with this? Isn't true?  By itself, this picture is quite a claim. Yet, have you read a single comment from Brnbade about it? None! So just a little comment about it would be nice, don't you think?

If he is not ready to disclose any information about it for now, fine, I respect that. In fact, I am not even asking him for such information. I just want to hear him say: "yes, I did light that bulb with only these two cells, no tricks involved", or "I thought this would be a great picture to post but be carefull, it doesn't tell the whole story".

Now if I am being unreasonnable, please tell me. Maybe I am being subjective here without realizing it.


Personally, I think we need to either ignore him if we(me, you, others) think it is fake, and leave him alone, or use a little more tact. Tenacity is fine. But he's not pissing in anyone's cheerios here here. Up until a little while ago, the questions asked of him were tough questions but they were questions asked without malice, or rudeness. I think we should have kept it that way, we're all adults.


Rich,

I believe in this kind of setup. The TPU is comprised of several subsystems. This is one of them. But the picture posted by Brnbade just seem above and beyond what can reasonably be expected from such a circuit. I was just hoping Brnbade would clarify that point.

But if he continues to ignore the question, let alone answer it, then I will do as you say: consider he is a fake and ignore him. Before reaching this conclusion however, I wanted to give him more room.

By the way, maybe I over reacted, but ignoring a question is also being rude.

Regards,

Jacob
« Last Edit: July 11, 2007, 07:30:11 PM by jacob »

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Re: The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?
« Reply #434 on: July 11, 2007, 07:56:52 PM »
but prodding someone relentlessly with less than amiable comments, that have been sharpened to a point, in order to draw blood are not a way to get someone to communicate with you.

I mean, if it does what he claims, what is the point of critisizing his workmanship? That's just pointless and caustic. And using ottos post as a springboard to do it.. Seems opportunistic, like you just needed an excuse to be mean to him.

Lets Just give him room. He either will, or will not release more information. I would understand if he chose not to however. And the thing is, if he doesn't we can't be sure it's because he never had anything. He could withhold now just on principal.

Sometimes we take liberties on forums that we would not in real life with people. Usually when we do so, we're stepping out of bounds in one way or another.

Rich