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Author Topic: The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?  (Read 322367 times)

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Re: The Brnbrade OverUnity Coil/TPU
« Reply #30 on: July 01, 2007, 08:54:45 PM »
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I have seen this (Mc Farland)-patent already years and somewhere with myself texts in addition abgepeichert. Nevertheless, in my brain I still have
stored, that the iron core also of many wires can exist. (what will work usually also better)
Moreover further a reel 23 turns and second had less windings (I think it 15 were).
For me it is not explicable
why in the patent of thousand feed drahtl?nge the speech is and no information was done

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Re: The Brnbrade OverUnity Coil/TPU
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Re: The Brnbrade OverUnity Coil/TPU
« Reply #31 on: July 01, 2007, 09:15:42 PM »
@ Jason & Earl

Yes, Earl's drawing is good, but a few things need to be added.  The thin 1000 wrap primary is ontop of the larger 12 awg. solid wrapped wire, which is wrapped first, and then the other wrapped over it.

Also, air core as I have said.  And do not forget the large magnet in the prescense of the coil.

and lastly do not forget the oscillations from the stereo with Identical signals/different source opposing one another, with one signal slightly out of phase.  (Whatever degree out of phase to produce stereo music.  ANOTHER CLUE answered OF SM's.  How many times does he mention "STEREO".  LOL  I missed it until JUST NOW!!  HA!

Blessings,
Bruce  :)

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The Brnbrade OverUnity Coil/TPU
« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2007, 09:47:41 PM »
Hi Jason,

From the patent text, it is clear that the more you break the core up into smaller and thiner wires, the better.  It appears to me that a massive, solid core is the exact opposite of what you want to do:  many fine iron wires as core.  Fence wire maybe.

Regards, Earl
Hi Earl,
My setup only has steel cores on it. 1018 if I remember right. The coes are 2" in diameter so I never tried to find magnets that big to replace them with  :D.
God Bless, Jason O

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The Brnbrade OverUnity Coil/TPU
« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2007, 09:47:41 PM »
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Re: The Brnbrade OverUnity Coil/TPU
« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2007, 09:58:41 PM »
Hi Marco,

that is interesting.  Will see if Brnbrade or others can get it to work.  My image was drawn by looking at Brnbrade's photos, so he is definitely having some results.  One puzzling thing, it looks like he only has a voltmeter as load and that is not all that much to keep the action going.  The patent says the output must always be loaded after a kick start.

Also his first circuit presented is completely different than the present one.

Did you try both ferric and magnet cores?

Regards, Earl

Hi,

i tried the "iron rod"
and i tried many times to start it by sweeping it with a magnet and aplying pulses to it but it never continue to run.

Marco

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Re: The Brnbrade OverUnity Coil/TPU
« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2007, 10:05:08 PM »
Nice transformers.

Hope you prove me wrong, but.... I have a feeling I could pull a couple of these from a pc power supply and do the same thing.

without current measurements, we can assume nothing.

It is wired up like a magnetic amplifier, interestingly enough. I have some theories about those things, and they do keep popping up, the vta, otto's research, etc.

Hope theres more to it, and the tale will be told by the amp measurements.


BTW, why not rectify and measure amps out on that analog meter? It has DC amps on it.

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Rich

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Re: The Brnbrade OverUnity Coil/TPU
« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2007, 10:05:08 PM »
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Re: The Brnbrade OverUnity Coil/TPU
« Reply #35 on: July 02, 2007, 12:16:45 AM »
hi all,

am i misinterpreting something or reading something into this from another thread that bruce was posting on.  the thing that caught my eye was the idea of basically trappong the bmef between two diodes.  is that right or what?  once the diodes trap the bemf then it suddenly spikes and is trapped until the second coil is shorted. then the output which was 1.5 volts dc in is suddenly 52 volts ac on the second coil. 

"DAMN THE (AMP) TORPEDOES, FULL SPEED AHEAD!"

lol
sam

ps:  shuttin up shuttin up.

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Re: The Brnbrade OverUnity Coil/TPU
« Reply #36 on: July 02, 2007, 12:30:04 AM »
hi all,

am i misinterpreting something or reading something into this from another thread that bruce was posting on.  the thing that caught my eye was the idea of basically trappong the bmef between two diodes.  is that right or what?  once the diodes trap the bemf then it suddenly spikes and is trapped until the second coil is shorted. then the output which was 1.5 volts dc in is suddenly 52 volts ac on the second coil. 

"DAMN THE (AMP) TORPEDOES, FULL SPEED AHEAD!"

lol
sam

ps:  shuttin up shuttin up.

@ Sam
bob.R's thread is the info about the diodes. 

@ Rich
Great idea!  LOL  none of us thought of that.. I sent brnbrade the message.  We will see.

@ All
Regardless the outcome of this thread, be thinking, "opposing identical signals/different sources, slightly out of phase, one from the other."

Cheers,
Bruce

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Re: The Brnbrade OverUnity Coil/TPU
« Reply #36 on: July 02, 2007, 12:30:04 AM »
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Re: The Brnbrade OverUnity Coil/TPU
« Reply #37 on: July 02, 2007, 01:02:57 AM »
Very interesting developments !!!

EM
« Last Edit: July 02, 2007, 03:47:02 PM by EMdevices »

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Re: The Brnbrade OverUnity Coil/TPU
« Reply #38 on: July 02, 2007, 01:27:53 AM »
bruce,

sorry for the confusion. on my part, but does this possibly have something to do with brnbrade's device, or his results?  are there capaciteance issues?  what frequency ac are we seeing?  how many watts is the stereo putting out? what is the max output of the stereo unit, and where waws the volumn set?  gosh i wish i was there live!  it is looking like everytime i'm not i may be missing history in the making!

KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!!  and get back to my stupid questions when you can.

lol
sam

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Re: The Brnbrade OverUnity Coil/TPU
« Reply #38 on: July 02, 2007, 01:27:53 AM »
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Re: The Brnbrade OverUnity Coil/TPU
« Reply #39 on: July 02, 2007, 01:50:44 AM »

sorry for the confusion. on my part, but does this possibly have something to do with brnbrade's device, or his results?  are there capaciteance issues?  what frequency ac are we seeing?  how many watts is the stereo putting out? what is the max output of the stereo unit, and where waws the volumn set?  gosh i wish i was there live!  it is looking like everytime i'm not i may be missing history in the making!


Hi Sam,

Yes, this thread was made on behalf of brnbrade who asked that I assist him.  His English is not the best, and he is a youth.  So I promised to assist any way possible.

I do not know if brnbrade ever saw the patent talked about by Earl and Jason.  He can answer that.

Watts the stereo is putting out is a good question.  We have no answer at this time.  I measured the voltage on mine sometime ago when I tried to build his coil about a week ago.  At full volume, the voltage was about 235 mv. 

Frequency AC is a good question. 

Where was the volume set, unknown.  I asked that also, we will see.

If someone/anyone could post what type and size of wire they think the thin braided primary is, that would be helpful for replication.  It looks to be easy to replicate. 

Earl gave a drawing.  There is a speaker magnet on end behind the coil.  Wrap 12awg solid first.  number of turns on the first post.  Directly on top of the large wire, wrap the thin primary.  He had said 1000 turns on another thread.  yesterday he just said, until the wrapped wire is equal to the diameter of the air core.  Mobius twist on both ends, of primary to opposing secondary.  Two coils are needed of course.
56volts AC, with no oscillations
250volt AC with.

2 1.5volt batteries.

Cheers,
Bruce


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Re: The Brnbrade OverUnity Coil/TPU
« Reply #40 on: July 02, 2007, 02:13:33 AM »
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Re: The Brnbrade OverUnity Coil/TPU
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Re: The Brnbrade OverUnity Coil/TPU
« Reply #41 on: July 02, 2007, 02:20:45 AM »
Hi brnbrade,

Please let everyone know what size bulb that is, 10 watt, 40 watt  60 watt,?

Also, that bulb is lit while the stereo is hooked up, correct? 

Thank you for details my friend,
Bruce  ;)

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Re: The Brnbrade OverUnity Coil/TPU
« Reply #42 on: July 02, 2007, 02:22:17 AM »
bruce,

the first consideration for my questions was for brnbrade's safety!  one of my concerns is , brnbrade creating a capacitence, like bob's, that could potentially go into an avalanche cascade and create that sudden "kick" that could cause a tv to implode or "a lightning strike!"  since brnbrade's preliminary results show that it is possible to convert through two transformers the results that have been documented, there are several considerations, safety wise that should be looked at first!  maybe everyone should take a second look at these before pushing for answers to questions, from a youth, that they may be better equipped to answer.  sorry if this seems like a step back, but, sometimes it might be warranted!  no disrespect intended to our young friend that has published his results!!!  THANKS TO BRNBRADE AND TO YOU TOO BRUCE!!!!

i think all good things come.

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sam

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Re: The Brnbrade OverUnity Coil/TPU
« Reply #43 on: July 02, 2007, 02:26:05 AM »
brnbrade,

shuttinup shuttinup!!!!
looks like you know what your doing!!!
lead on!

lol
sam

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Re: The Brnbrade OverUnity Coil/TPU
« Reply #44 on: July 02, 2007, 02:26:46 AM »
Hi Jason,

From the patent text, it is clear that the more you break the core up into smaller and thiner wires, the better.  It appears to me that a massive, solid core is the exact opposite of what you want to do:  many fine iron wires as core.  Fence wire maybe.

Regards, Earl
Hi Earl,
My setup only has steel cores on it. 1018 if I remember right. The coes are 2" in diameter so I never tried to find magnets that big to replace them with  :D.
God Bless, Jason O

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