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Author Topic: The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?  (Read 349222 times)

Offline Bruce_TPU

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Re: The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?
« Reply #195 on: July 03, 2007, 05:23:11 PM »
Good Morning guys!

@ Earl
Thank you for the circuit.  I put it on post #1, our build page.  Please check it with ALL info on page 1 and check it for accuracy.  Great job!

@Rob
Thank you for the aprox wire sizes!  I put it on page 1

@ EVERYONE
SEE page 1, post 1 to build!!

I have turned it into our build page and we have ALL the information we need to replicate.  Thank you.

Hi All:
   Did a small test tonite of a bifilar wound coil. Reason I feel it belongs here as well is that the internal core is, you guessed it, aluminum solid 1/4". Was mainly seeing what would be the difference with an AL core as opposed to a CU core. Well output around 80v. Signals input from opposite ends.
   Now this is the part that is weird. Rod is 24" long with 4 layers of twin #20 stranded. Scope is on each end of the rod. This AL thing is starting to push my imagination around a bit. Anyhow, Bruce... so here is two ocurances of the opposite signal injection showing great results.

The other coil was the same idea but bifilar wound on a pitsfield coil with a whole lot of turns of wire wound around the center hole at 90 degrees to the bifilar pair.

sugra


Please, everyone pay attention to what Sugra has posted!  It is more confirmation, of another TPU ingrediet and other FE devices!!!  Thank you Sugra.   ;D


Happy, Happy days!!  (P.S.  Many many similarities to the TPU)
Bruce  :)

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The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?
« Reply #196 on: July 03, 2007, 05:59:17 PM »
So now he has it running on caps?

Well, I have my plate in front of me. All of my words are piled on it.

If someone can replicate these results and explain it, I'll eat every last one.

Anxiously waiting.

The "taking a break for two weeks" thing is familiar, though. The diagram, shouldn't be that hard to scribble out in notepad. How frustrating.

Earl, in your diagram, should power be input via the primary and output via the secondary, to the next device's primary? (which may or may not be inverted)

Rich, no power should be input.  It is the Creator's aether which is the input power.  The only thing necessary is to perturb its equilibrium and then it will start oscillating by itself.  This assumes that your losses are not excessive (and that this device works).  I suggest everyone reading Harold Aspen's talk that he gave at the Berlin FE conference.  He refers to the Cook patent and presents his own idea how to build a device using high voltage and cross-linked concentric capacitors.  You could say his idea is the dual of Cook's idea.  Either low voltage with coils or high voltage with concentric capacitors.  He explains his concept of aether.  Highly recommended to read the last part where he talks about Cook as well as his concentric capacitor idea and how he sees aether.

You do not need batteries nor stereo, nor anything.  Just a perturbing impulse to start it going and a permanent load to keep it from stopping.

Bruce, please add the PDF from Harold ASPEN to your post #1 on Page 1.

Regards, Earl

Basically what you have done is a couple conductors with chokes in them..

brnbrade, please post a cct before you leave for your break. if you have no ammeter, that's fine someone else can replicate and test if you post your cct.

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Re: The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?
« Reply #197 on: July 03, 2007, 06:05:20 PM »
@Jacob

Thanks for pointing that out. Actually it's not 52 but 24 vac. I looked closer and here are all the pictures which I have now indicated as Trial 1 to 5 so we know how to refer to them. I call them trials because I am sure Brnbrade has some more tricks up his sleeve (or his t-shirt). lol

Five variations have been shown thus far.

Trial 1) Coils + Magnet + Cap + 3v Battery, DC-DC 13 vdc out.
Trial 2) Coils + Magnet + Cap + 3v Battery, DC-DC 24 vac out.
Trial 3) Same as Trial #1 - Magnet + Sound (two channel positive only) DC-AC 250V out.
Trial 4) Coils + Cap (330 uf 200v) + Cap (62 pf or uf(hard to see) 400v about 4-7v ac out
Trial 5) Coils + 4 Caps (hard to see values) about 20v ac out

@all

If any of you have figured out any of the other cap values, please refer to them with the proper Trial #. Please let me know if there are any other mistakes.

Also, you guys should stop asking Brnbrade for this and that and just concentrate on what there is. Gimme Gimme never gets. The guy needs a break to bring this up to par so we have to give him some slack. Complaining about it will not work.

Oh yeh, I found two nails? Now I can start building. lol


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Brnbrade Coil/Overunity? _where output
« Reply #198 on: July 03, 2007, 06:35:53 PM »
Hi All,

I am a believer in galvantic separation of the output coil(s).

In this case make another winding over the other two windings, few turns for low voltage, more turns for higher voltage.

I suggest two identical output coils, one over each rod, connected in series for more voltage or in parallel for more current.  This would give identical load for each rod.

Want 12V to charge a battery and 220V for the fridge, then wind 4 additional coils, two on each rod.  Rectify, buffer, and convert as necessary.

Don't be afraid to experiment.  If Brnbrade and Sugra can have intuition, so can YOU.  Take off the horse blinders and start building instead of asking for more details and a schematic.  See my signature below.  Destiny helps those who help themselves.

Don't think it will work?  Then build Aspen's idea of concentric cross-over capacitors and ignite the thing with a spark plug and HV coil.  Document your research and post back to the forum.

Prefer to build SM's TPU, fine do it.  Prefer to try your own idea, fine do it.

Regards, Earl

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Brnbrade Coil_aluminum wind
« Reply #199 on: July 03, 2007, 06:52:44 PM »
Hi All,

when winding the aluminum layer be careful and pay attention what you are doing.
You may have to do this several times because:

Aluminum layer can be wound with more than one turn, start shorts out the end.
This gives a low impedance one-turn short circuit.  This is usually regarded by Engineers as a no-no.  In this case, who knows?

Before reaching the start point again, insulate the second layer from the first so there is no short circuit.  Pay attention that nowhere does the second layer make contact with the first.

Experiment and tell us your results and effects !!!

There are FE rumors that alternating layers of aluminum / insulator / alu / insulator / right next to each other ........  can have good effects.  So another experiment is instead of just one wrap of alu foil, try a multilayer sandwich.  There is a rumor that glass as an insulator in such a multilayer wrap is beneficial, in this case try to get some glass fiber wallpaper to use as insulation.  DIY & Baumarkt usually have glass fiber wallpaper.  Or just use whatever you have.

Regards, Earl

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Re: The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?
« Reply #200 on: July 03, 2007, 07:27:41 PM »
@all

I did a few phorensic dimensional measurements - CSI style.

Took a reference off the transitor on Trial #5 - center circle being 3/4".

Came up the the following dimensions for the coils.

May not be totally exact but it's the best one can do with what is given.


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Re: The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?
« Reply #201 on: July 03, 2007, 07:39:37 PM »

It would not be too difficult to power a 12V, 50W bulb for a few minutes from 2 AA batteries with the right circuit. Keep that in mind folks.

Darren
I need your help here. I have no idea how this would be possible. Because it would imply pulling upward of 10-15 amps from those small batteries and maintaining that draw for a few minutes. Plus, let's keep in mind that there is no high speed switching component being used here. Can you please explain how it can be done. Thanks!

@All,
So just how much power can you pull out of two AA batteries?
I have just completed a test using various NiMH batteries as the other zinc carbon batteries I have are nearly flat, perhaps someone can test these:

Cell = 1 x AA size GP 2700 mAh 1.2V
Test load = 0.8 Ohm resistor (3 x 2.2R in parallel)
Output = 1.25A @ 1V
 
I tried heavier loads but the voltage drops further, so 1.25 watts seems about the limit.
2 x AA cells should provide about 2.5 watts but this may cause the batteries to explode because of the relatively high current draw.
So Darren, hopefully you are correct, with the right circuit you CAN light a 24V car headlamp halogen bulb. The right circuit being a TPU!

Regards
Rob  

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Re: The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?
« Reply #202 on: July 03, 2007, 08:04:59 PM »
Rob,

Thanks for the info. I agree with you that drawing that much current from the cells would be dangerous. Actually, you probably noticed some overheating during testing didn't you?

Rich, no power should be input.  It is the Creator's aether which is the input power. 

Thanks for the quote Earl. I just love it when I hear stuff like that! 

Jacob

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Re: The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?
« Reply #203 on: July 03, 2007, 08:17:15 PM »
@ Earl
@ Wattsup

I have updated page 1 with your information.  Thank you both.

@ALL
I will no longer post any more "Theories" of operation on page 1.  Only build information to assist replication.

Happy Days!  :)
Bruce

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Re: The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?
« Reply #204 on: July 03, 2007, 08:26:02 PM »

@ALL
I will no longer post any more "Theories" of operation on page 1.  Only build information to assist replication.

Happy Days!  :)
Bruce

Bruce:

Thank you for the good job in putting the build info. together for easy access. I also want to thank you for your time, channeling excitement into this Forum and sometimes, even your out of this world suggestions.

However, some of us would rather not hear of wildly speculative theories unless there really is really good grounds for suggesting it. Out of context, these things are very confusing. What we need is FOCUS and Quality Test results which are reproducible and hopefully quite explainable when the code is cracked!

Nevertheless, great job and well done! Thanks.

chrisC

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Re: The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?
« Reply #205 on: July 03, 2007, 08:28:32 PM »
We all know you can light a bulb with unusual low voltage if that voltage is pulsed and coil actions increase the voltage. The key part was 'pulsed' which implies to most that it must be switched to have the effect.

The very first radio detector had no such switch/diode/rectifier. It was an LC circuit by Tesla and others with different variations. Circuit-wise that is what is going on here. The current is indeed being switched. You must also consider the capacitance factors introduced by the method of layering. So basically I'm saying that you can have the same effect as an active switch by using a passive circuit. Tesla did it with his magnetic rectifier and his regenerative tank receiver. And guess what - with the right arrangement there is nothing faster.

The thing that usually becomes apparent is that the Watts aren't there. i.e. the voltage drops to almost nothing when a low impedance load is applied.

I urge you all to not stray far from BrnBrade's construction until you understand how it works. When you do there are improvements and ways to enhance.

Knowledge is useless if there is no understanding and constructive application.

I'm sure when we saw our first spider some ran and others bowed before it and sang mantra's. Now we just step on it. All for the same reason - we don't understand.

If the spider had self-awareness he probably thought we were idiots  ;D
(NO disrespect intended for anyone's beliefs! I DON'T know it all but I try to learn)

As far as TPU/Pipes. I have already found that precise control is mandatory and I already know that both are one in the same. Either way we are creating a set of highly interactive toroidal fields.

Building these coils will be very instructive for those that apply the lessons to the SM device.

Good Luck ALL!

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Re: The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?
« Reply #206 on: July 03, 2007, 08:32:58 PM »
Y'all saw Daves videos of him lighting bulbs with a small TPU-shaped device?

How large do you suppose those batteries were inside it?

I'm just amazed sometimes how folks will rationalize this or that, when if they just took a step back and pondered things for a moment, they'd perhaps see things for what they are...or aren't for that matter.

As long as we're all having fun :)

I hope our friend has cracked the Cook coil as he seems to be saying.

As there seems to be a few building this thing already, what are you all using as your reference to wire it with all the components?

Surely one of you builders out there could redraw (and post) the entire device as per your own build? I'm sure it would be much appreciated by all.

Bruce, how is your build coming?

Darren

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Re: The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?
« Reply #207 on: July 03, 2007, 08:33:31 PM »

@ALL
I will no longer post any more "Theories" of operation on page 1.  Only build information to assist replication.

Happy Days!  :)
Bruce
@ Chris,  Thank you...Kind of!  LOL  Please reread BOLD above.  Thank you!  Cheers.

Hello BEP,
@ EVERYONE
I concur completely with BEP on this.  Build to specs first.  Then try to understand.  Then "size it up!"  My favorite part!! ;D

Happy Days!  :)
Bruce

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Re: The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?
« Reply #208 on: July 03, 2007, 08:34:28 PM »

It would not be too difficult to power a 12V, 50W bulb for a few minutes from 2 AA batteries with the right circuit. Keep that in mind folks.

Darren

Darren,

I need your help here. I have no idea how this would be possible. Because it would imply pulling upward of 10-15 amps from those small batteries and maintaining that draw for a few minutes. Plus, let's keep in mind that there is no high speed switching component being used here. Can you please explain how it can be done. Thanks!

Jacob


Hi ,
I tried a while back what current you can get maximum from
a AA NiMH cell when you use a digital meter at the 10 Ampere range.
It showed a shortcircuit current via this meter of 5 amps maximum.

Unforunately I did not measure the inner resistor of this digital ampmeter
and also not then the voltage at the cell,
but let?s say, you have one of the newest AA NiMH cells and they can deliver
1 Volts at 5amps then that will just get you 5 Watts,so 2 cells would only get you at maximum
around 10 Watts and brnbrade?s lightbulb looked a bit brighter than that.

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Re: The Brnbrade Coil/Overunity?
« Reply #209 on: July 03, 2007, 08:51:23 PM »


Bruce, how is your build coming?

Darren

Hi Darren, and I am glad you asked... :)

My ECD is finished. Wired and the circuit soldered as of last night.  (Thanks to my partner).  Tonight we experiment with it for the first time.

Also, tomorrow I look for some scrap AL tubing to cut, on my farm.  I have a bit of everything every where.  I have the wife and son taking a large old speaker apart today, to salvage the magnet.

And me... I am at work!  ;)

How is your build going Darren?  Will it be real or simulated?  (Kidding of course! ;) )

Happy Days!  :)
Bruce