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Author Topic: HHO Implosion Engine Study  (Read 71036 times)

Robb077

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Re: HHO Implosion Engine Study
« Reply #75 on: July 08, 2007, 09:09:45 PM »
Ironhead:
The technology is really Langmuir's. You proved it works with the plasma electrolysis. The ceramic heater using hho method is just no parts to wear out and possibly more user friendly. 

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Re: HHO Implosion Engine Study
« Reply #76 on: July 08, 2007, 09:20:23 PM »
Yes , I am starting to see how this works . And I should have much attention to this as winter is not far off . A heater cell that requires  little maintenance is what I set out to do years ago with the plasma system . I just ended up in the middle of winter  installing  the experiment I was working on and went no further.
The more I think about the more important it becomes as there will be a need very soon. 


The need outweighs the want
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Robb077

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Re: HHO Implosion Engine Study
« Reply #77 on: July 08, 2007, 09:34:03 PM »
The ceramic in the patent is aluminum oxide. Magnesium oxide is about 1000 degrees higher melting point...3000 c compared to 2000 c.

The question is what causes the plasma? It is the electrolysis of water AND the reburning of the ionized hho gas. 
 The ceramic heater is just a separation of the two components, which is good, because the metal parts are out of the plasma heat, which they should be to last. The plasma is still self-propagating, overunity and water based.
The technology is the same as the plasma electrolysis, just divided up into two stages.

d3adp00l

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Re: HHO Implosion Engine Study
« Reply #78 on: July 09, 2007, 12:12:11 AM »
The lack of compression leads to much less heat on the exothermic side of the reaction. The power is not in this phase of the motor, the real power is from the vacuum that is created when the hho is reduced to h20.  The temp of hho at normal pressure burning won't melt plastic bottles, I doubt if there will be much heat transfered to the engine itself.
And as we all know if the temp in is the same as temp out and work is done then we have what we have been looking for. solenoids would be good but costly for the ones that would be needed to contain the engine.

IronHead

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Re: HHO Implosion Engine Study
« Reply #79 on: July 09, 2007, 12:25:45 AM »
true. Also I have  done about 200 runs of implosion in a large plastic syringe there has been no trace of heat damage in any way. It was just cleaned up but you cleanly see no damage here.Sorry forgot to put the igniter in there. It just runs right up through the outer ring of the syringe tip.
« Last Edit: July 09, 2007, 06:16:17 AM by IronHead »

keithturtle

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Re: HHO Implosion Engine Study
« Reply #80 on: July 09, 2007, 12:43:52 AM »
I read thru the entire document; it seems as though the hi temps would give the input pipe fits... there ain't much air moving in thar.

In fact, the only input is HHO, with a vent in the top.

Materials integrity is fundamental to Kim's design, but I see no reason why it cain't be replicated- it's so dang simple it's scary

Turtle

BTW robb077; do let old age put off yer building- we old folk know a whole lot about what don't work in the first place...

"learn from the the mistakes of others- you'll never live long enough to make 'em all yerself"

Robb077

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Re: HHO Implosion Engine Study
« Reply #81 on: July 09, 2007, 05:20:54 AM »
Keith:
Maybe just use a sandblaster ceramic tip for the input into the vessel. Yeah, it is simple and no parts to wear out. Could use to heat or steam water for many uses.
The thing is just made from firebrick and ceramic so not so much to worry about integrity...just keep temp below 2000 C with these materials.

Maybe Ironhead can start a new thread for this...HHO Heater or whatever. Probably a good idea to have another thread to work on this.

keithturtle

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Re: HHO Implosion Engine Study
« Reply #82 on: July 09, 2007, 06:05:17 AM »
I like the sandblast tip idea, so I got one with an eighth-inch bore.  The green rod I got is 3/32, so I'll sleeve it with shrinkwrap to reduce stray current.   I got a stainless whisk, and found that the nozzle can be cram-rammed thru the wires, and project the tip in the center of that thar elliptical chamber, although the radius is obscenely great, >1" at center.  Shroud the outer periphery with SS steel wool, and that should work, I thought.   Ain't tried it yet, cuz I came up with sumtin better.

Another trip to Target  (it ain't on their site else I'd post it) yielded another whisk of a spiral-wrapped configuration, 316 SS, that has a progressively reduced radius, and a perfect round opening wherein the tip can be inserted, no "Boar-hogging" necessary (that's an old body shop term for making "Chinese no-fit" fenders go on the car).

Anyhow, I'll assemble this simple arrangement this week and post pics and results in the Cold Fusion thread.  I'll parallel the bridges to keep heat down.   Might even use two separate feeds (same phase), 4 bridges and watch the sparks fly <BIG GRIN>

More at the thread.

Turtle

IronHead

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Re: HHO Implosion Engine Study
« Reply #83 on: July 09, 2007, 06:13:30 AM »
HHO heater is best  posted to the Plasma  thread

thanks guys


http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2058.new.html#new

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keithturtle

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Re: HHO Implosion Engine Study
« Reply #84 on: July 09, 2007, 06:18:49 AM »
Where is that plasma thread?   I don't think I've found it yet, and I must needs be there.

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Re: HHO Implosion Engine Study
« Reply #85 on: July 09, 2007, 06:22:41 AM »
Gracias, senior IronHead!   I was there...

Too much basking in the sun today... baked the brain

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Re: HHO Implosion Engine Study
« Reply #86 on: August 04, 2007, 08:05:49 AM »
I am setting this project aside .