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Offline Pontifex

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Mikell Device revisited
« on: June 27, 2007, 02:28:07 PM »
Hi folks,

do you remember the legendary Mikell Device? You can still find info about this suppressed device here: http://www.fdp.nu/mikelldevice/thedevice.asp

An uncle of Mikell, Hanz von Braun stated this:
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Mikell is a relative of mine who had actually redesigned his father's work which is I might add classified. Although Mikell's version of his father's prototype seemed to work well. He got the idea from his father and used copper tubing and plastics, magnets and a form of energy starter to start the device. Once it was working it seemed to power itself and worked much like the alleged Searl Disk in that it disturbed the air and space around the contraption. Otto confirmed to me that the device did infact fly off which was not expected.  His second unit also came up missing from his home lab. I spoke to Otto and he assures me he had nothing to do with Mikell's device missing but cautioned him not to construct any other units like it again.
As far as I know the hourglass rotor section was not a true three diminsional hourglass but instead a flat hourglass shaped platelet placed on a shaft just above the twirling shaped magnet arrangement. Something to do with striaght magnets opposing curved and tappered magnets that caused movement of the rotor in one direction.
I may ask Otto if he wishes to elaborate on this again. He likely will not as he needs 30 hours a day to do his own research. However I know of many working versions of fully functional magnetic motors that I will share with everyone. I will even share a few of my own devices as public domain against the wishes of higher ups. I'm likely the only researcher within the US that can do this without final repracutions............even against the wishes of the US Federal Government and their heirs to their policies.
Source: http://groups.msn.com/VonBraunPhysics/overunity.msnw?action=get_message&mview=1&ID_Message=1066

Von Braun runs a MSN Group dealing with Overunity: http://groups.msn.com/VonBraunPhysics/overunity.msnw

There you may find some interesting topics. Example:
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I'll make a little time for some details tonight. Where I come from there are currently three projects under way that involves technology that is comprehensive and relatively easy to build yet hidden from both the private sector and the commercial sector. These projects are:
1]    Project Pulsarus
2]    Project Arcamedes
3]    Project Devinci
It is the first project that interests you. Pulsarus is an energy source that is self contained (?)
I want you to experiment on paper with these equations and see for yourself its viability. Then you can micromanufacture one from electric motors from Radio Shack using the srtong magnets from old computer hard drives and micro copper coils from Radio Shack as the charge coils. Then start the small motor using a 9 volt battery and have a switch that shuts power off from the battery once the magnets are spinning fast enough to superceed the 9 volts so that the motor is now recieving all its power from the electricity gnenerated from the coils. Measure the amount of extra volts created and discover that you have a free energy device in your hands!
Source: http://groups.msn.com/VonBraunPhysics/overunity.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=1370&LastModified=4675605955308363304

Maybe he could be of help for the overunity scene? Has anybody ever contacted him? I know that his MSN group was already mentioned here. But nobody has yet linked it to the ?Mikell Device? or stated that he is doing research on overunity devices.
Greetz, Pontifex

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Mikell Device revisited
« on: June 27, 2007, 02:28:07 PM »

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Re: Mikell Device revisited
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2007, 03:13:46 PM »
Hi,
he seems to claim, that this device:

(http://www.fdp.nu/mikelldevice/model1a.jpg)

is selfrotating just via the permanent magnets.

Did he already post a video to support his claims ?
Many thanks.

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Re: Mikell Device revisited
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2007, 08:53:18 PM »
Right after this contribution I wrote a message to two different E-Mail accounts belonging to Mr. von Braun courteously asking several questions including one reffering to Stefan's picture of the permanent magnet device. I did not receive any reply yet. An account that I created on his physics board was removed.
Anybody else successful in contacting Mr. von Braun ??

Greetings, Pontifex

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Re: Mikell Device revisited
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2007, 08:53:18 PM »
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Offline konduct

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Re: Mikell Device revisited
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2007, 07:23:02 AM »
I have received info from someone that goes by "javalinnn braun" and signs their emails Von Braun. I inquired about the Mikell device and he responded with plans for a "Pulsarus" device. Has anyone heard of the Pulsarus?

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Re: Mikell Device revisited
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2007, 03:54:58 PM »
@kunduct,
what did the plans show ?
Can you post them or are they not for public display ?
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Mikell Device revisited
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2007, 03:54:58 PM »
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Re: Mikell Device revisited
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2007, 03:22:27 PM »
Hi kunduct, that's nothing new. See my first post including link.

Cheers, Pontifex  ;)

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Re: Mikell Device revisited
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2008, 05:36:33 PM »
A new replication of the Mikell device (Helix Rotary) is started. Progress will be published here: http://fdp.nu/mikelldevice/thedevice.asp#20080302

By the way Hartiberlin: The photo you published in the second message of the thread is my replication of the 2D Mikell device. It is not stated as a working device. It's build with email help of Mikell who stated this HIS 2D version was powering RC cars. But my version never made it that far.

Regards, Eric.

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Re: Mikell Device revisited
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2008, 03:57:37 AM »
eric,

have you given any consideration to how this reconciles with rodin mathmatics?  i do not see this configurations real underlying thory, as being correct, except in the correct direction!  you might want to consider a reconciliation with rodins mathmatics before actually performing any actual experiments.  as far as i can see if you are going to talk about toroidal coils you should at least have a good understanding of rodin math.

keep up the goood work!

lol
sam

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Re: Mikell Device revisited
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Re: Mikell Device revisited
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2008, 08:47:17 AM »
Hi Eric,

nice to know that somebody dares to experiment with a helix rotary device. What I do not understand is this: If spending so much money for this device why is the person doing so many variations from the original that it is not useful to talk about a replication?

At least I would try to use copper foil and I would avoid using screws to attach the magnets as metal screws would alter the desired magnetic field. If not using screws there is no necessity for using round magnets....

Just my two cents....

Kind regards
Pontifex 

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Re: Mikell Device revisited
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2008, 12:58:06 PM »
have you given any consideration to how this reconciles with rodin mathmatics?
I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean. But I'm not testing this device myself, just publishing what is send to me, so I guess in my case I need HTML programming more then rodin mathmatics.
Eric.

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Re: Mikell Device revisited
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Re: Mikell Device revisited
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2011, 11:09:45 PM »
Just found this thread and although it seems like it is dead i would like to share my own view of the Mikell device. I have been working on my own magnetic generator for some time now (haven't we all). I have already gotten a flat version of mine to work so the next logical step was to move on to a full scale prototype. My own ideas were already formed in my mind. I then found this Mikell device and my own idea is strikingly similar. Using a modified kind of "triangle-gate" (note that i do not have a degree in physics) in a linear design as a stator I can move an armature fluently (on a track) with no outside source of energy besides the magnets. I am currently modifying this to run with only one of the tracks where as then the armature will run with only one of the poles being affected. Because i am using a modified (simplified and more efficient) version of the triangle gate the resulting stator curves in a direction away from the armature. To make this loop back in on itself in a direction towards the armature it must spiral in a shape that becomes very similar to the "doughnut" shape of the Mikell device. I was shocked when i found this out. Also since i removed one of the sides from the stator it will only have one pole facing out (possibly the north?). I will post pictures/drawings of my concept later if anyone is interested.

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Re: Mikell Device revisited
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2011, 11:27:18 PM »
Hi.

I'm definently interested.

/Eric.

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Re: Mikell Device revisited
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2011, 12:42:20 AM »
I'll post pictures soon, if you dont already understand what I mean by a triangle gate (or tri-force gate) then an example and what is thought to be an explanation can be found here http://www.fdp.nu/triforcegate/default.asp   These gates will roll a cylinder magnet (magnetized axially) both ways if the magnet is turned around (positive push positive, negative push negative). First i just tried bridging these triangle arrangements into strings then stacking the strings into alternating layers. Now i have simplified the design to use less magnets per unit of space, thus simplifying the design and making it more efficient. IT even seems to now work at a wider range of angles instead of just parallel to the stator string.  The new design also debilitates the stator to only being able to push the armature only one way even if it is switched around. I don't think that this will matter as a motor only needs to turn one way. Drawing will be post soon, if anyone would like to replicate my flat version the concept is remarkably simple. Once you understand that you can modify it to work like mine or however you like.
 
-I have the flat version working with 33 modified pairs or tri-force gates strung together. The armature magnet rolls smoothly down the entire length as long as the spacing from positive stator to negative stator is consistent.

-I just worked out some of the math for the dia and general size of the doughnut shape as well as the dia of the spiral of the stator. The stator spiral (I'll explain later) is a little over one foot when it isn't curved around to the doughnut shape. The entire doughnut is about three feet across but my math isn't exact. I need to work it all out on a virtual model to be sure so far I just seem to be re-discovering everything. Someone would have understood this before if it were easy but this is a kind of idea that, if not already understood, is very hard to be taught.   
« Last Edit: August 10, 2011, 02:17:49 AM by Tanthor »

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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2011, 10:17:05 AM »
Yes, the math is not the easiest part. You've been on my website www.fdp.nu and seen the calculation with the number of magnets that Mikell used. The number of magnets that where really needed (by calculation) to cover a donut the way he said, made me seriously unsure if he really build something IRL.

I also tried the 2 dimensional models in different shapes. So that is why I'm very interested in your results.

/Eric

 

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