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Author Topic: Solid state Bedini charger from John Peters  (Read 108216 times)

Offline hartiberlin

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Re: Solid state Bedini charger from John Peters
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2008, 04:30:07 PM »
Hi ZPFE,
many thanks for your additional informations,
BUT it does not help,
if you just state these results over here just with words.

To learn and progress we need real documentations, also of FAILURES.

So it is very important to exactly document , what works and what does not work...!

We will never know, what exactly you tried and how you exactly tried it,
so maybe you did something wrong or other than the original inventor...

This is why I always ask to document the results in very detailed videos,
so you can later look it up yourself to see, what you have done.

This is the advantage of youtube or other videos.
It can document it very precise if you record it in
a good way and also explain via voice, what you are just doing...


2.Yes, I agree, you should have tested spark systems
as there is a different component coming into play, the
oxidation and electron clustering at the contact points,
which will give you free electrons into the circuit and
thus recharge up your batteries.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Solid state Bedini charger from John Peters
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2008, 04:30:07 PM »

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Re: Solid state Bedini charger from John Peters
« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2008, 04:33:22 PM »
YouTube videos usually show little, and what is shown is shown badly.
What is helpful would be a clear documented circuit diagram.
Paul.

Surely there are many crap videos cheaply produced with crappy
cameras or shaking hand motions.

So, use a tripod and a a well prepared video production for this.

There are many great people out there that use Youtube the right
way and one can learn from every video they are doing.

So it only depends on your skills to do this...

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Re: Solid state Bedini charger from John Peters
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2008, 04:35:40 PM »
@zpfe

did you also test NiMh or lead acid batteries ?

It also depends much on the battery type as not every
battery type takes these RF back spikes equally to get recharged..

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Solid state Bedini charger from John Peters
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Re: Solid state Bedini charger from John Peters
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2008, 04:15:05 PM »
Surely there are many crap videos cheaply produced with crappy
cameras or shaking hand motions.
So, use a tripod and a a well prepared video production for this.
Yes, and it will be the upwards of 5MB.

A simple circuit diagram will probably tell more and be about 50KB

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Re: Solid state Bedini charger from John Peters
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2008, 03:04:34 PM »
Surely circuit digrams should be included in the video or posted additionally.
But a video can show much more how he has doing it and what was going on.

It is needed for exact documentation.

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Re: Solid state Bedini charger from John Peters
« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2008, 11:56:06 PM »
So maybe all these machines are bunk. Not surprising, considering each has their own "pet" theory of physics that would have to be true for the device to work and all these "pet" theories are mutually contradictory -- while the Universe knows only one physics. However, what I'm wondering is this: what happens if one were to bring real science to bear on trying to discover whether or not a real source of "free" energy (actually, more like a source of energy that is not any of the "conventional" types, e.g. fossil fuels, nuclear, solar, wind, etc.) actually exists or not? Has anyone given a serious and dedicated scientific effort with real scientific knowledge and methods to once and for all answer this?

(This is for "zpfe", by the way.)

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Re: Solid state Bedini charger from John Peters
« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2008, 08:31:56 AM »
So maybe all these machines are bunk. Not surprising, considering each has their own "pet" theory of physics that would have to be true for the device to work and all these "pet" theories are mutually contradictory -- while the Universe knows only one physics. However, what I'm wondering is this: what happens if one were to bring real science to bear on trying to discover whether or not a real source of "free" energy (actually, more like a source of energy that is not any of the "conventional" types, e.g. fossil fuels, nuclear, solar, wind, etc.) actually exists or not? Has anyone given a serious and dedicated scientific effort with real scientific knowledge and methods to once and for all answer this?

(This is for "zpfe", by the way.)

Normal physics and science can't even explain half of the experienced phenomans that happens today. And when they can't explain it, they pretend it doesn't exist. That normal procedure. And if that won't work , and the practical exeriments that are done seems to convincing they just call the scientist or inventor who has discovered the new effects for a crank. Its that easy. And then they have ruined his life, as a credible scientist at least. And these reactions and "procedures" have been with us since the birth of science.
What's the reason to this then? Is it a huge conspiracy? No, its just plain ego, nothing more and nothing less...

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Re: Solid state Bedini charger from John Peters
« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2008, 08:52:19 PM »
Normal physics, as you call it, does explain more than "half" of experienced phenomena. Tell me some examples of these phenomena that "normal" physics "doesn't" explain. Stuff like the so-called "dark matter"? Well guess what! Scientists ADMIT "normal" physics does not explain it! That's why it's called a "mystery"!

"Zpfe" spent lots of time testing these machines using honest and rigorous methods and found them not to work. That's because he used real scientific methods designed to minimize the possibility of false results.

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Re: Solid state Bedini charger from John Peters
« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2008, 09:53:30 PM »
Normal physics, as you call it, does explain more than "half" of experienced phenomena. Tell me some examples of these phenomena that "normal" physics "doesn't" explain. Stuff like the so-called "dark matter"? Well guess what! Scientists ADMIT "normal" physics does not explain it! That's why it's called a "mystery"!

"Zpfe" spent lots of time testing these machines using honest and rigorous methods and found them not to work. That's because he used real scientific methods designed to minimize the possibility of false results.

If he hopes for some magical results suddenly giving him free energy forever thats being a little optimistic.
Bedini has done alot of buliding and thinking on his own, but the main ideas behind his machines is based on previous inventors and researchers like Nikola Tesla and Edwin Gray, to name a few. Even if he has done alot of work, its basically telling the world again about these discoveries, and what the implementation of these into our modern technology could do to change our world forever.
I'd wish someone could actually invite bedini to write in this or another tread about his invention and why it works, and mabye he could even have given us a video of it, demonstrating its ability to power more than what was presumably put into it. What we have now around the world for the most part is induvidual people who tries to replicate it as best they can, but if Bedini could give a real clear demonstration of it working then mabye the sceptics could begin to shut up.

I know, still all of this (and most on overnuity too) is only a bunch of words, they don't prove much, but they can help.
We can hope that mabye bedini has the time to respond to my wish, as I'm sure it would have strengthen his view.

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Re: Solid state Bedini charger from John Peters
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Re: Solid state Bedini charger from John Peters
« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2008, 09:30:30 AM »
The point is that if the device works as claimed you should be able to detect the greater energy using genuine scientific method. In addition, you should be able to plug the out to the in and get it to accelerate itself, or at the very least keep on going and not slow down like what happens when you have a wheel and give it a push with your hands.

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Re: Solid state Bedini charger from John Peters
« Reply #25 on: October 01, 2008, 10:47:09 PM »
The point is that if the device works as claimed you should be able to detect the greater energy using genuine scientific method. In addition, you should be able to plug the out to the in and get it to accelerate itself, or at the very least keep on going and not slow down like what happens when you have a wheel and give it a push with your hands.


The point is Mike, the machine is not OU! I've already explained this to you in your own thread.I mean how can a transistor, a coil and a few other bits and bobs be OU. Any EE knows that, so why keep dwelling on this OU theme. Even Bedini stresses that his machines are not OU!

Hoppy

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Re: Solid state Bedini charger from John Peters
« Reply #26 on: October 01, 2008, 11:31:39 PM »
Guys , you  need to empty your glass before u can get more.. some of you  went to college and invested thousends of hours studying and experimenting so i understand where you come from.. but just consider that maybe just maybe all that is taught at school not all true maybe some one wants to lead you in the wrong way... maybe he is not telling all he knows  or he complicates thing in order for you to spend a life time trying to to find something or explore things but you got the wrong basic building blocks so the puzzle will never reveal itself...
you've got lost... , all this EE stuff some one wrote it that doesnt mean it is the only truth it is just that guys prespective point of view.
you need to find your point of view and think from the  start like you dont know anything, theres is alot more out there that isnt in any book ...
i dont know everything but i know that i dont know... get it? the problem with scientist is that they are sure they know exactly whats going on
and thats their biggest illusion , its not their fault , they were good boys and went to school and listened and learned and when they finished they were sure they got all the tools and all the facts , no one told them maybe or perhapes what you learned is true , so they are sure they are true
and their doomed because of their believes  to continue looking for answers but they will hit a wall that they will never be able to pass...

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Re: Solid state Bedini charger from John Peters
« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2008, 02:14:35 AM »
The point is Mike, the machine is not OU! I've already explained this to you in your own thread.I mean how can a transistor, a coil and a few other bits and bobs be OU. Any EE knows that, so why keep dwelling on this OU theme. Even Bedini stresses that his machines are not OU!

Hoppy

So then there's really no point but just fun, right? Because if it's not over-unity why does everyone like to claim it's "free energy" or whatever?

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Re: Solid state Bedini charger from John Peters
« Reply #28 on: October 02, 2008, 02:04:56 PM »
So then there's really no point but just fun, right? Because if it's not over-unity why does everyone like to claim it's "free energy" or whatever?

LOL - The penny's dropping then Mike!

Simply because they believe or have been led to believe it is!!!

As I said in the other thread, just relax a bit and enjoy building your first spinning wheel.

Hoppy

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Re: Solid state Bedini charger from John Peters
« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2010, 06:36:51 PM »





This is not a John Peters circuit, This is a test circuit for the patent to prove the device worked. This circuit is sitting in my lab at this very moment. The battery you're looking at is a 1951 Willard battery so where is John Peters Circuit to prove this is his.
John Bedini







Hi All,
here is a picture and a circuit diagram from John Peters,
who has designed a solid state Bedini Charger.
He says:


"In this solidstate circuit the radiant energy apears when charging the first capacitor bank, and after the big capacitor discharge to the battery, with the right timing pulses. That circuit consume miliAmps, the first blue capacitors are charged with only one wire from the transformer secondary and two diodes. No current from the secondary."

 

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