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Hoppy

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Re: Regeneration and the Toroidal Power Unit
« Reply #60 on: June 23, 2007, 09:54:32 AM »
There appears to be 9V battery taped to the small TPU. Note how simple this TPU appears to be, no visible electronic circuitry unless its hidden within the coil windings. What are the protrusions at intervals around the top of the toroid?

Thinking from the viewpoint of simplicity, I know that it is possible by using the miniature oscillator circuitry driving a cheap throw-away camera flash powered from a small 1.5V penlight battery to briefly flash a 240V / 100W light bulb. Say SM duplicated these oscillators and fired them on a sequential electronic switch, with each oscillator driving a small coil around the toroid. The oscillators could be imbedded within the coils. If enoough flashes could be produced, then possibly the bulb may appear to be evenly illuminated for a long enough period to demonstrate on video.

I realise this idea sounds a bit crazy but I felt it was worth sharing.

Regards
Clive







EMdevices

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Re: Regeneration and the Toroidal Power Unit
« Reply #61 on: June 24, 2007, 03:18:04 PM »
I did it !!!

I did it !!!

I did it !!!

I'm getting out 3 times the energy I'm putting in !!!


Stay tuned .... all info is comming.

EM

Bruce_TPU

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Re: Regeneration and the Toroidal Power Unit
« Reply #62 on: June 24, 2007, 03:55:26 PM »
Good Man EM,

Take your time, catch your breath...Document well!

LOL

Happy Days!
Bruce

dutchy1966

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Re: Regeneration and the Toroidal Power Unit
« Reply #63 on: June 24, 2007, 04:07:04 PM »
I did it !!!

I did it !!!

I did it !!!

I'm getting out 3 times the energy I'm putting in !!!


Stay tuned .... all info is comming.

EM



WHOOHOO  :o........EM we're waiting....... ;D
congrats man!!

Robert

EMdevices

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Re: Regeneration and the Toroidal Power Unit
« Reply #64 on: June 24, 2007, 04:23:19 PM »
Input power:

12 Volts at 0.05 Amps = 0.6 watts    (continuous power)

Output power:

Train of spikes occuring at 10 kHz.
 Each spike (see picture:  50 volts/div, 1 us/div.) Lightbulb when hot has 170 ohms resistance  (when cold only 30 ohms, so don't be fooled)

When integrating across all 10,000 spikes in one second, I get about 3.6 watts:

So

COP = 3.6/0.6 = 6  Ã‚ 


I'll append a video soon.

EM

P.S.  Previously I thought my spikes were occuring every 5 kHz, but I was wrong.   So I get more power output, 6x instead of 3x.   Just clearing things up for the doubters.  :)
« Last Edit: June 24, 2007, 06:34:20 PM by EMdevices »

dutchy1966

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Re: Regeneration and the Toroidal Power Unit
« Reply #65 on: June 24, 2007, 04:39:12 PM »
Hi Em,

That looks very good. I am just not sure what setup you have used.....I might have missed something but could you please explain or even better draw your setup?

Thanks alot!

Robert

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Re: Regeneration and the Toroidal Power Unit
« Reply #66 on: June 24, 2007, 04:46:56 PM »
Congratulations EMdevices!

For a more accurate measurement I would suggest a non-inductive effect resistor instead of the lightbulb. As you already mention the bulb has a dynamic resistance - so in order to minimize any possible measuring faults a fixed resistor would be better imho.

Can you share any details about the setup?
Pictures and schematics would be lovely  ;D

EMdevices

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Re: Regeneration and the Toroidal Power Unit
« Reply #67 on: June 24, 2007, 05:17:46 PM »
Good point Thedane,  I'll find a 4 watt resistor and try that soon.  Let's hope its not the inductance which is pretty small but not zero.

EM

P.S.  Note, if this is for real, then its the earth magnetic field that gets displaced from the ferrite, and when it snaps back, it AIDS the backEMF, or flyback voltage.  My transistor and small coil run COOL    ;D
« Last Edit: June 24, 2007, 08:13:07 PM by hartiberlin »

chrisC

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Re: Regeneration and the Toroidal Power Unit
« Reply #68 on: June 24, 2007, 05:22:43 PM »
EM:
That is so COOL!

chrisC

EMdevices

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Re: Regeneration and the Toroidal Power Unit
« Reply #69 on: June 24, 2007, 05:27:26 PM »
All along I've been thinking,  nah, these things are just DC to DC converters.

But, my setup uses the ferrite, and as I showed before, it gets affected by the earth's magnetic field.

So today I decided to INTEGRATE the energy since the spikes were so nice  :)

And lo and behold,  I was sitting on OU all along    :)

EM

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Re: Regeneration and the Toroidal Power Unit
« Reply #70 on: June 24, 2007, 05:41:10 PM »
Hi EM,

to see id really it is the earths magnetic field that is doing this you could maybe try a few simple things:

1  Are the output pulses direction sensitive. I mean the earths magnetic field has a specific direction, do the outpulse change when you turn the blocking oscillator?

2 can you shield the transformer? does the effect disappear?

Hope this can help to determine if it is the real deal.....

good luck! (and keep us posted.... ;) )

Robert

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Re: Regeneration and the Toroidal Power Unit
« Reply #71 on: June 24, 2007, 05:42:27 PM »
no shit  ;D

i have alot of ferrite dude  :)

and again that blocking oscillator....
M.

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Re: Regeneration and the Toroidal Power Unit
« Reply #72 on: June 24, 2007, 05:49:51 PM »
Here's the spike train, they occur every 100 micro seconds so the frequency is 10000 spikes in one second.

I just hope my math is not way off, or I will "kick" myself all day.     Ha Ha  :)


Marco, do you have your blocking oscillator working?   I'm currious to see what other people get.   I must do the resistor test, but even resistors have some lead inductance, hmmmm.     What I need is a power meter based on THERMAL ENERGY.  That's what I need.

EM

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Re: Regeneration and the Toroidal Power Unit
« Reply #73 on: June 24, 2007, 05:53:44 PM »
Hi EM,

If indeed you do have over 3 watts output, with only 0.6watts input, closing the loop with most of it to spare should not be a problem!  This test will confirm over any other!

If a transformer is connected as the load, with a bridge rectifier and a suitably large cap, you may well be able to loop this unit.

Waiting on more results!


Regards,

Dave.

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Re: Regeneration and the Toroidal Power Unit
« Reply #74 on: June 24, 2007, 06:01:06 PM »
Great Job EM

I hope you can share your setup so I can try to recreate the results as well.

Cam