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Author Topic: Radiant Energy - how to generate  (Read 6755 times)

Offline bob.rennips

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Radiant Energy - how to generate
« on: June 18, 2007, 03:52:09 PM »
Tesla stated that when he generated radiant energy particles they:

1. Electrified every metal object.
2. Depending on method of generation they would manifest as:
stinging particles
heat sensation
cool refreshing breeze
pervasive light eminating from the air with the quality of sunlight
etc

Tesla was quite specific that to generate the particles you had to have:

1. High voltage DC pulses applied at a rapid rate.
2. There must be no current reversals what so ever, however small.

The rate of the pulses determined how the effect of the particles manifested.
A number of Tesla patents specifically dealt with preventing current reversals whilst producing precisely timed current pulses. e.g. Magnetically quenched spark gap, compressed air quenched spark gap, counter rotating contacts.

With modern electronics we can create the precisely timed pulses without a problem. How to prevent current reversals with no reverse current ? Diodes are not good enough.

The answer is obvious once pointed out. Generate a 400V square wave OFFSET by 1600 volts. e.g. A wave oscillating between 1600V and 2000V.

This wave by definition does not have current reversals. It also has 1600V of leeway to deal with voltage spikes.

The circuit below will do this.

On the right hand side of the air core transformer you apply 2000V DC. On the left hand side you apply a 0-400V square wave. The polarities of the voltages applied to the transformer are such that the 0-400V sqaure wave CANCELS part of the 2000V DC.

Why cancel ? Because when the square wave voltage flicks back to zero you have a very fast reappearance of the magnetic field of the 2000V DC. ie. a sharp high voltage pulse with a very fast rise time, WITH NO CURRENT REVERSALS.

An air core is required to prevent the transformer from going into saturation with the high DC voltage AND to prevent a ferrite core from absorbing the radiant energy.

Radiant energy wil emanate from the wires on the right hand side of the transformer therefore these wires should be thick copper wires.

This matches perfectly with what SM was saying about unusual pulses observed in transformers in certain situations.

Finally if you consider what Otto et al have observed. They get their effect when the seed has been shifted along the waveform so that it appear towards the top of a high voltage pulse. Is this not an approximation of a DC shifted square wave ?

This in essence is what the Italian 'perturbing magnetic field' patent is all about.

I'll let you all know if this proves out.

cheers, Bob.

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Re: Radiant Energy - how to generate
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2007, 04:08:57 PM »
In fact you could have 10:1 air core and only have to generate 40V pulses...

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Re: Radiant Energy - how to generate
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2007, 04:41:45 PM »
Hi Bob, 
I enjoy some of your postings.  I'm trying to replicate the Tesla Coil as you are probably aware.  I feel every FE researcher should do this, then we can understand Tesla's words even better, so I've been reading up on the theory quite a bit.

My take on the RE phenomena is that it is the high voltage discharges we see from the Tesla coil, as in some of the photos like the one attached. (random photo off the web)

What I understand about the tesla statements you mentioned is that, if we have a current reversal, the primary tank circuit will not charge up to full potential and the energy of the sparks will not be as large.

The theory of the Tesla coils is quite well understood, by some  :)   It is still quite mysterious though, and sharp pulses do create (or rather contain) a wide spectrum of frequencies, which may or may not resonante different modes of resonance.

EM

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Re: Radiant Energy - how to generate
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Re: Radiant Energy - how to generate
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2007, 04:42:22 PM »
Wow, could we then step up this hig frequency signal with yet another air core transformer to attain extreely high voltages?  This looks nifty.

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Re: Radiant Energy - how to generate
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2007, 02:36:58 AM »

...What I understand about the tesla statements you mentioned is that, if we have a current reversal, the primary tank circuit will not charge up to full potential and the energy of the sparks will not be as large...


My understanding is that in a Tesla coil the spark gap is used to 'ping' the primary with a fast jolt of energy. Because a spark gap is used the energy injected into the primary does not leave via the way it came in because the spark gap is extinguished. This leaves an amount of energy oscillating in an LCR fashion in the primary. Because the primary and secondary are tuned to the same resonance, there is a huge build up in the secondary. The primary therefore does have current reversals which is why many Tesla coil fans use TV flybacks transformers to create the primary oscillations.

In a Tesla coil, radiant energy was not the intention, it was the by product of the method of generating high frequency oscillations in the primary. Tesla observed this radiant energy and pin pointed the phenomena down to having high frequency pulses into a wire with no current reversal. He achieved this without an attached Tesla coil. In fact he did many experiments using large capacitor discharge pulses into thin wires in order to explode the wires. When exploding the wires even though he physically shielded the wire, Tesla would still feel the stinging pain of r.e. particles, wherever he stood in his laboratory.

Researcher Peter Lindemann/Eric Dollard has much information on this aspect of Tesla's work.

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Re: Radiant Energy - how to generate
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2007, 02:48:39 AM »
Hi Bob,

I couldn't have said it better myself !!

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My understanding is that in a Tesla coil the spark gap is used to 'ping' the primary with a fast jolt of energy. Because a spark gap is used the energy injected into the primary does not leave via the way it came in because the spark gap is extinguished. This leaves an amount of energy oscillating in an LCR fashion in the primary. Because the primary and secondary are tuned to the same resonance, there is a huge build up in the secondary. The primary therefore does have current reversals which is why many Tesla coil fans use TV flybacks transformers to create the primary oscillations.

Any references for these (besides Lindemann and Dollard)?

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Tesla observed this radiant energy and pin pointed the phenomena down to having high frequency pulses into a wire with no current reversal. He achieved this without an attached Tesla coil.

If indeed this is from Tesla, how do you think he measured the current to see if it did not reverse?  No scopes in his time, it would have to be a theoretical/phylosofical deduction.  He means a specific thing by "no current reversal".  He's refering to a specific setup.  What is that? What is he thinking.  What's the setup?  These are rhetorical questions,  I have read his patents and I think I know what he means!!!  :)

EM

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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2007, 06:49:52 PM »
Hi :)

As my memory serves me right this works by adjusting the two paths.
so one path is verry fast and the other is verry long.
this way he seperated the positive from the negative.

Marco.

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Re: Radiant Energy - how to generate
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2007, 07:43:32 PM »

If indeed this is from Tesla, how do you think he measured the current to see if it did not reverse?  No scopes in his time, it would have to be a theoretical/phylosofical deduction.  He means a specific thing by "no current reversal".  He's refering to a specific setup.  What is that? What is he thinking.  What's the setup?  These are rhetorical questions,  I have read his patents and I think I know what he means!!!  :)

EM

Tesla found no measurable current at the output of his RE disruptor.  He may have meant no BEMF - or - since electrons are negative and drift is opposite the potential, he may have been referring to the actual current itself flowing.  When the potential is initially applied, the electrons have to align before current starts to flow - this takes a few nanoseconds or less and is determined by the resistance of the wire and possibly it's atomic structure.

Tesla stated that the "particles" that were radiated or ejected by the disruptor possessed such a low charge that they could be considered "neutrons".  This is interesting since a neutron has no charge but still possesses a magnetic moment - so they would be like little magnets at very high velocity and any conductor in their vacinity would be charged.  Question is, if neutrons come out of the molecules - how are they being replaced?  So, maybe something besides neutrons...maybe one of Walter Russell's undiscovered elements smaller than Hydrogen...could be elementary particles like neutrinos which travel through matter and have no charge but can turn into electrons...got to study them more.

(I had to ask a lot of questions of physicists to get this far with the ideas behind RE.)

The magneticlly quenched gap is interesting since it would force charged particles to curve before hitting the electrode on the other side, quenching it. 

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Re: Radiant Energy - how to generate
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2007, 08:35:39 PM »
Required reading for RE research. (Paper by Andre Waser)

See attached:

(EDIT: second file is Deutsch version.)


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Re: Radiant Energy - how to generate
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2007, 05:05:26 AM »
Required reading for RE research. (Paper by Andre Waser)

See attached:

(EDIT: second file is Deutsch version.)


Magnificent find. Thanks for sharing. The references at the end also give many avenues of research.

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materials:
one 1N60 Germanium diode
one bright white LED
two smal neodymium magnet for connection. ( you can soldering )
connect led negative to positive of diode and led positive to negative of diode

if not worked trying to increase wifi tx power


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