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Omnibus

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Re: Working SMOT ramp from Tom Ferko ?
« Reply #390 on: May 16, 2007, 11:38:34 PM »
Hi Tom,

No, I'm not saying that. The only thing I meant to say is not to announce that there is just one little thing to be ironed out and the self-sustaining device is undoubtedly ready to go. I'm saying in my words what I meant when I mentioned the 99.99%. That little 0.01% is the culprit that no one has ever been able to overcome so that others can reproduce  and until that's done, please, don't say you have it working. If that 0.01% is not overcome the motor is not working at all in a sense of a self-sustaining motor. Everyone here knows that it's very difficult to solve just that 0.01% of the problem. Everything else. the remaining 99.99% has already been done by many, years ago at that.

d3adp00l

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Re: Working SMOT ramp from Tom Ferko ?
« Reply #391 on: May 19, 2007, 07:22:25 AM »
I think people are a bit touchy. notice the "?" in the title. I think we all could use a little breather.

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Re: Working SMOT ramp from Tom Ferko ?
« Reply #392 on: May 19, 2007, 12:29:13 PM »
A form of an always falling weight is the principle we all are searching for. Such device are very hard to make as it actually isn't performing any loop or repetition. An always falling object will always find itself in a new condition all the time. A rotating device will always repeat all the conditions within one or "n" numbers of revolutions, and that requires energy to make a new falling start - it's like climbing the mountains and falling down in a parachute over and over again without using energy do climb up the mountain to make a new fall.
 So how to make a rotating device, performing an continuous change in condition, when it repeat itself, should be an impossible task to solve. However, if no one try, the solution will never be found.

Btw: Have you Stefan had any ideas of an OU machine on this forum? :)

Br.

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Re: Working SMOT ramp from Tom Ferko ?
« Reply #393 on: May 19, 2007, 12:49:49 PM »
Stefan, thanks for adding the question mark to the title. It was misleading otherwise.

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Re: Working SMOT ramp from Tom Ferko ?
« Reply #394 on: May 20, 2007, 06:47:03 AM »

d3adp00l's theory for a working pmm

1. a field ocsilation is necesary

2. magnetic frustration must be equal along the path of travel

3. the direction of torque must be unified

In other words, at some point 1/2 of the fields need to change polarity, magnetic frustration is the condition of a magnet being attracted/repulsed to ferrous metal or another magnet at all point of travel this condition has to be constant with no point of lesser frustration(the motor will stick there), and if the fore said frustration creates a torque on a moving part the torque at all points of travel have to be in the same direction.

Create a design that satisfies those conditions and it will work. Also think in all 3 dimensions when designing, not just planar 2d thinking.

magnetman12003

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Re: Working SMOT ramp from Tom Ferko ?
« Reply #395 on: May 29, 2007, 08:49:24 PM »
Hi Guys,
I am back from vacation and am constructing another center pivot device that will not have to be tilted to get the turntable to move.  Now the center will have a Vertical shaft.  The ratchet will be eliminated if not needed.   I now have added lead weights to the driver mechanism.

This will be my last attempt to make a self runner and while on vacation It all came to me just how to do it. 

When finished I will be displaying a real nice movie of a working self runner with no human contact whatsoever.

My whole motor device working concept is similar to this analogy:

You are holding a heavy weight with arms extended in front of you. A bench ( with wheels under it) is there to place the weight on and just as you do so -- the bench now with MOST of the weight on it rolls forward in a circular fashion with your arms still holding a SMALL part of the weight-- the bench keeps rolling with you running CONSTANTLY after it.

Why are you constantly running after it?? 

The precise instant you placed the weight on the bench you are pushed constantly from the REAR real hard.  Its actually the exact same weight force that you placed on the bench. Its delivered to your backside by a circular orbit.

If the bench with wheels on it travels in a circular orbit so will you.   My magnet  turntable described  travels in a circular orbit.

This is the best I can describe whats going on.  Its blending ALL REPEL magnetic energy with "GRAVITY" doing most of the real work.

Who has a good name for this device motor attempt should it work-- and it will.

Tom
« Last Edit: May 30, 2007, 07:16:52 PM by magnetman12003 »

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Re: Working SMOT ramp from Tom Ferko ?
« Reply #396 on: June 08, 2007, 05:08:07 PM »
Sorry guys- no movie of a self runner.

My two finger touch motor device is now in the hands now of a free energy company who was  interested enough in taking it to the next level of self run status. No human contact. All arrangements both financial and otherwise will be kept private.   

Make the device as described in my prior listings and see what your able to do.  If you can make the device operate without two fingers you score a home run.   

Its now a very long waiting game with me now to see how things go.

Tom

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Re: Working SMOT ramp from Tom Ferko ?
« Reply #397 on: June 08, 2007, 09:54:15 PM »
Well this is the end to this motor.... Unless the free energy company shares the secret of how to make it hands free...

magnetman12003

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Re: Working SMOT ramp from Tom Ferko ?
« Reply #398 on: June 09, 2007, 04:53:42 AM »
Hi All,
I was sort of hoping someone would have attempted to replicate the motor device I talked about and illustrated in detail. All in this forum. No secrets were hidden.  I even posted a movie clip.    I only have one question to ask. 

Did anyone bother to replicate this motor device and acually experiment with it ? 

As far as "this is the end of this motor" goes thats not true.  Everyone that takes a little time/effort and cracks their wallet can construct one and maybe beat the company to find just how to make this into a hands off self runner.   All of you know as much as I do at present.

Tom




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Re: Working SMOT ramp from Tom Ferko ?
« Reply #399 on: June 10, 2007, 02:35:29 AM »
And if you had cracked your wallet, you could have gotten there. But rather than following the premise of the forum, open source, you have chosen rather to try and cash yourself out. Look out for number1, would seem to be your premise. Have fun with that.

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Re: Working SMOT ramp from Tom Ferko ?
« Reply #400 on: June 10, 2007, 03:24:12 AM »
Hi,

I dont think giving every red cent to charity is a cop out.

Tom

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Re: Working SMOT ramp from Tom Ferko ?
« Reply #401 on: June 10, 2007, 06:33:00 PM »
Hi Mramos,

I did manage to catch and release a few trout.  Enjoyed my vacation in the wild.  Wish I could have stayed longer.

A note about the motor device:  I did not sign anything that gives a company full possession of this idea.  It will always be open for anyone interested in taking it to the next level of a self runner with no human contact.

If you decide to give it a try you will find yourself playing with it for hours on end. I actually wore out a thumbwheel ratchet!   


If made correctly the HEAVY magnet on the wooden arm you saw in the movie should ALWAYS "Center position itself between the two large magnets on the turntable". All polaritys are in the repel mode.  Then just tilt the center axle a bit and the magnet arm swings downward /forward and the fun begins. 

I know the "WEIGHT" of the arm magnet is always leaning on the large turntable magnet in "FRONT" of it.  The arm magnet weight force spins the turntable around and the other large turntable magnet "BEHIND" the swinging arm pushes the arm forward again all at the same time. This starts the whole process over again.  Really neat to do and see.

Now--- If one can do all that with the center shaft in a vertical position they have jumped the hoop into making this a self runner.  Believe me I have tried out many ideas to do just that to no avail.  By the way- IF THE CENTER AXLE DEVICE WITH ATTACHED MAGNET ARM MAKES ANY CONTACT WHATSOEVER WITH THE SPINNING TURNTABLE ALL ACTION CEASES. The only contact the axle and arm assembly should make with the turntable is where the bottom pointed tip of the axle meets the center point of the turntable. You are just pinch finger holding the top ratchet end of the tilted axle.

Remember that this device apparently runs on weight/gravity and all repel magnets act like springs keeping eveything spaced apart.


Tom
« Last Edit: June 10, 2007, 08:37:17 PM by magnetman12003 »

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Re: Working SMOT ramp from Tom Ferko ?
« Reply #402 on: June 28, 2007, 03:43:59 PM »
Hi All,

This is a motordevice update.

Tom
« Last Edit: July 01, 2007, 04:51:02 AM by magnetman12003 »

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Re: Working SMOT ramp from Tom Ferko ?
« Reply #403 on: June 28, 2007, 03:45:58 PM »
Device turntable diagram

magnetman12003

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Re: Working SMOT ramp from Tom Ferko ?
« Reply #404 on: June 28, 2007, 03:46:50 PM »
DEVICE DISK DRIVER MECHANISM