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4REAL

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empty promises
« on: June 17, 2007, 09:39:31 PM »
In reference to all the videos I have watched all the web pages I have visited. I have yet to see any thing realevent, not one single thing. Be it hydrogen generation, magnetic motors, or over unity.The v gate guy with the green skateboard wheel seems the most honest. The gentleman who has 5 postings on you tube about his Joseph Newman motor. Great I love it now show me how the frickin thing is built so I can try it for myself.

Not a single one of theses videos or web pages gives comprehensive instruction on how to make any of there devices, EVEN THE ONES, ESPECIALLY THE ONES, THAT ClAIM WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS FOR ALL OF OUR BENEFIT.

The guy from hydrogen tap very interesting chap except he only needs two video's not 95. One that shows a working device powering a drivable car and another that shows and explains how he built it and what parts I will need to build one.

I am glad I have only bought one DVD. One that claimed to show how to power my car with an on demand hydrogen generator. Then when I left feed back stating it was full of irrelevant material the guy gets mad explaining I need to visit his web site. I visit the web site and he admits openly that the device is a work in progress and good luck with our experiments.

I believe in zero point, I believe in the either, I believe in over unity so for Gods sake some one show me a working device I can build at home or its all hot air.

I admit I am not a very intelligent person so all you people out there working for the benefit of mankind sell me a set of plans with comprehensive instructions for a device that will at least inspire me or shut the *#@% up.

You discredit your selves with all this ego grasping. You discredit your selves with exaggerated claims, no substance and no credible solid evidence or theory.

SHOW ME SOMETHING THAT WORKS PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Forgive my rant
Geoffrey

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Re: empty promises
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2007, 10:23:30 PM »
Forgive my rant

No

Do like the rest of us and try experimenting for yourself.

You think you are frustrated?? , try working on a hundred different ideas with no result, then winge, till then earn your place to Cry  :o

You fucked up when you described people in here as **ego grasping**.
It is not about the ego for the guys in these forums, it is about an adventure to discover what has not been discovered and sharing what they find per experiment along the way.

Think you need to read a few more threads mate.




 

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Re: empty promises
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2007, 10:38:06 PM »
      Rant Retracted!! :)   moab
« Last Edit: June 20, 2007, 02:55:42 AM by Moab »

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Re: empty promises
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2007, 10:57:46 PM »
 :'(






lol

IronHead

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Re: empty promises
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2007, 11:55:58 PM »
I was really  going to conjure up some innovative flame thrower on this guy .
But I can see he is just in pain.

BTW  Good post Moab
« Last Edit: June 18, 2007, 03:35:28 AM by IronHead »

4REAL

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Re: empty promises
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2007, 12:22:36 AM »
CLaNZeR

Have you posted videos on utube do you have a web page that is full of bits and pieces of other peoples work, if not then why are you so pissed off? My rant was directed at the people who are filling up the internet with so much garbage I can't find the information I need to do a LEGITIMATE experiment. Those people that are ego grasping denigrate and bury the hard work of well intentioned visionaries.

Moab
not all of us can afford heat pumps and plasma reactors nor have the time for that kind of large scale project. If you have a hot water pump that saves you $50 a month why would you want to keep that information to your self? That kind of work is exactly what I am looking for show me how to do it. Maybe I can make some kind of contribution.


Thats why I am here because I have a genuine concern for the well being of people who have a genuine need for these technologies. and I have not been able to find lesson one in amongst all the crap. I am not a beggar just looking for legitimate base to start from.

  ???

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Re: empty promises
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2007, 12:34:56 AM »

I'm all about sharing info with others, if they are truely doing the work, you can tell... It's when they want flat out "hand it to me" verbatim instructions to avoid doing any work themselves... then my responses are more along the lines of..."why don't you go outside and play hide and go f*ck yourself"

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IronHead

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Re: empty promises
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2007, 12:41:52 AM »
The world is Ugly
The only contribution you seem to have is pissing and moaning about how you can't build. It is obvious that you can not see what works and what does not work based on this non-ability  to build you own world , so you buy it. But we have nothing here for you ,nothing you can buy. Nor do we have anything for you to build because of the prior statement  you are unable. So stick with paying high bills and buying your life off the shelf.

You came into this forum in the wrong way and now I feel you will get nothing but shrugs when you need help and you do need help . I can feel your anger , the bills piling up on you , working your ass of to make ends meet, Going crazy because the the Corps  are raising  prices of everything and The Govs  with the high taxes. I have felt that pain though it was long ago.

Forget trying to build anything , it's just not you. You will work your ass off for the rest of you life to buy off the shelf.

Even if you wanted to learn to build it will take you years.Something we have been doing since we were children. I am sorry  but that is how it works.



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« Last Edit: June 18, 2007, 01:05:18 AM by IronHead »

4REAL

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Re: empty promises
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2007, 12:49:06 AM »
My rant was not directed at any one here. It bothers me that I have pissed you all off. I expressed myself poorly.

I honestly thought that buy expressing my frustration here in this forum that I would be directed to a source of information where I could begin to learn some thing.

I am sorry

thank you for your help

IronHead

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Re: empty promises
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2007, 12:58:42 AM »
Tell me about yourself skeptic84
What do you do for a living  and so on, some background.
Lets see where you might start to learn our ways.

The ways of the builder


 IronHead
« Last Edit: June 18, 2007, 01:51:49 PM by IronHead »

4REAL

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Re: empty promises
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2007, 02:15:26 AM »
I am A house painter I have been a fabricator, a Brunswick pinsetter mechanic, an oppspeck engineer for a plastic injection molding company. I have even assisted in the engineering of a meter mix dispensing machine for silicone rubber extrusions and although you couldn't guess it from my careless posting I am a student of Buddhism. 

I am genuinely concerned about the world having depleted its oil reserves and what that means for all of us ordinary folks and those much less fortunate than us. I am optimistic though, I believe that we are surrounded by untapped sources of energy.

I am not the brightest person, I often do not express myself well. Out side of complex electronic circuits I can trouble shoot and repair complex mechanical and electromechanical machines. I can not start from scratch though and most of the information I find on the net about alternative energies is spoken way above my head or is very vague and most of the time seemingly secret.

But I am curious and like most of us in a very short while I will have great need to understand the things discussed here.

Geoffrey



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Re: empty promises
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2007, 02:56:08 AM »
Wow  I would have never guest. Good on you for reaching out to somewhere to learn , to wake from the matrix. As  you know there are no turnkey get power for free systems .And you know why if  you are that which you  say in the above statements. You are an aware man in a  controlled world maintained by power greed.

First off your name alone will bring on distrust to others here and any other forum as they will simple see you as a non builder with nothing but rage. It is a symbol of such a thing in the brainwashed  off the shelters we see every day. Change It !

Next , I think you might want to start small if you really want to build something that works, and is fairly easy to do. To prove to yourself that you can do this and it is done. To set yourself free knowing you can survive without the controllers pulling your strings. One small step can fortify this emencly

Do you own your own home ? because we don't want to be fooling with  someone else's property here.

Stop thinking , kick you brain out the door and let the mind take over then we can begin.



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« Last Edit: June 18, 2007, 01:51:18 PM by IronHead »

4REAL

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Re: empty promises
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2007, 03:13:23 AM »
Thank You for your advice and for these invaluable links IronHead.


IronHead

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Re: empty promises
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2007, 03:30:45 AM »
4REAL     a good name change. Go back and read my post again.
Now look around the forum and come back  then we will disuse a few things to work with and different ways to go . Hot water, Battery charging, Fuel,  AC and DC power sources, Chemical reactions.


"Welcome to the real"
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Re: empty promises
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2007, 02:50:56 PM »
Why?  Some answers. At the end of this video are some nice  number comparisons of electric motors running in RV mode.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5757587323690598971

Good reading on many technologies .
Devices 1 -20 and Patents Translated  1-56
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/files/patrickkelly/Start.html

Practical guide of basic electronics
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/files/patrickkelly/Tutorial.pdf

« Last Edit: June 18, 2007, 03:18:02 PM by IronHead »