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Offline MACEDONIA CD

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Half TPU
« on: June 16, 2007, 07:02:07 PM »
See This and tell me about this!...
I made this circuit and this work..the power is 1/6

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Half TPU
« on: June 16, 2007, 07:02:07 PM »

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Re: Half TPU
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2007, 07:08:24 PM »
Hey, :)
Those coils look like tesla pancake coils.
Tesla pancake coils are M?bius.

http://www.pat2pdf.org/pat2pdf/foo.pl?number=512340

Is that what you mean MACEDONIA CD?

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Re: Half TPU
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2007, 07:14:02 PM »
yes    like this  but look the circuits   but

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Re: Half TPU
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2007, 07:14:02 PM »
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Re: Half TPU
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2007, 07:36:22 PM »
quite intresting  :)

can you post a pic with the bulb on ?
Marco


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Re: Half TPU
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2007, 07:59:04 PM »
hey  i dont  pic  whit bulb  i teel to everyvone   this circuits is real  and  is working  made this  and you see   but a have a litel problem    my out energy  is 6 times  biger then input     but  the out energy i have  a only 2 second     and wait  10 sekond  to charge  capacitator and  same agen  and again    <<<<<<<<<<< problem is how to spead chargyng  the capacitator not to wait  10 second  ,,, 2 second be  ok  for chargyng      see circuits >>>>>>>>>>>   bealivet if you want more watage  in out or voltage  only you need  more paralel coil  in  the colector   .  if you now how  please  teel    by  from.................. Macedonia ........................
   

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« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2007, 07:59:04 PM »
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Re: Half TPU
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2007, 08:02:54 PM »
Post a video if possible, this looks interesting!

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Re: Half TPU
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2007, 08:13:20 PM »
CD yes that will lite a bulb for a few seconds as you built a Tesla feedback transformer and tank circut. the transformer will triple the voltage and the cap will hold the volatge for a short time and needs to be regenerated. I belive Tesla used thih to bleed off power so not to over load a circut we call this a soft start for motors today Greenly sells a circut that has on of these in to to control large machines to lower in inrush current.

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Re: Half TPU
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2007, 08:23:34 PM »
Hello Macedonia CD,

Have you tried to replace C2 20000uF electrolytic capacitor first with a 4700uF to see the charging time can be reduced? If time gets reduced, you may find ways to reduce the inner impedance of the rest of your circuit that charges up the capacitor.  The RC time constant!

My questions:

P1 is a MOSFET switch?

What value has got C1?

The speed  diode is again the double diode from a PC supply but only one half of it is used?

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Re: Half TPU
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2007, 08:40:55 PM »
How long does the bulb stay lit after you wait until the cap is charged? If its only a short while or a mere flash than this is no more than a simple transformer similar to that found in portable cameras for the flash bulb (which store a higher voltage charge in a capacitor and discharge it when needed).

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Re: Half TPU
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2007, 08:40:55 PM »
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Re: Half TPU
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2007, 08:54:16 PM »
How long does the bulb stay lit after you wait until the cap is charged? If its only a short while or a mere flash than this is no more than a simple transformer similar to that found in portable cameras for the flash bulb (which store a higher voltage charge in a capacitor and discharge it when needed).

If I understand his Reply #4 above correctly, the bulb is lit for 2 seconds, the charging time is 10 seconds...

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Re: Half TPU
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2007, 10:21:27 PM »
OK  macedonia  coling  ha  ha haa   
  ok like this way i charging capacitator  in about whit max  charg  10 second  ok   if i  put small  capacitator  my bulb whil  start light litel  small    but if  you put  more  uf   cap  then you get more  second  to light bulb whit  more power  ok  that  is that 


.... IF you are able  to help how to charge my cap 20000uf  whit  a short time  that  i whil thanks  to all  in this forum     

ok  my solution   is made first  is  i put simple  ac/dc converter  whit 4 diode   this diode  is simple im mean simple  for audio amplifiers  this diode  is made for very small frekvenci  not for a khz   then  my chargyn  whit  this diode  is not  a 10 second  but  is about  1 minute      ,,,  then  a have idea  anther   what  if i put  spead diode  then  get litel progres    then chargyng  is a  10 second   ok  ok ok  but  10second  is long time   ???????    ok last night  i thing  ithing  i thing   what solutuion  can be  to charge whit  a short time then 10 second    and  here  is my idea    beacouse  i dont  have  more spead diode  ho is made  for  mega hercg  <<mhz>>  I THING  WHAT YOU MEAN FOR THIS  <<<<<<  IF I PUT  SPECIAL NPN RF TRANZISTORS   ,, HOW  DIODE  NOT HOW TRANZISTOR   WHAT WHIL HAPEND   >>>>>>HA  HAAAA  THAT  IS THAT  EVERY TRANZISTOR  HAS  A 2 DIODE  OK   WHEN A CONECTED <<BASE  AND COLECTOR  >>> THEN A HAVE  A DIODE   <<<<OK  DIODE  HO IS WORKING  IN THE mhz  >>>>  thing about this   my friends   ...
   BIG HAND I GIVET TO ALL YOU  IN THIS FORUM   <<<<   MANY THANKS   TO ALL MEN HO  HELP  MY >>>>>   BIG HI HI  HI  HI   FOR  <<<<<   DIGI  LABS     READ THIS  >>>         THIS  I TAPE  IS MACEDONIAN LANGUEGE     READ                                                                                       GOLEM POZDRAV    JOVAN   PROBAJ  DA  NAPRAVIS  NESTO KAO MENE   VIDIGI SLIKITE   GORE  TIE  SE OD MENE    I SHEMATA E  OD MENE   RAZGLEDAJTE I KE VIDETE STO SUM NAPRAVIL  , I AKO  IMATE REPLY   KAZETE KADE GRESAM     I DRUGO  SAKAM DA TI KAZAM     


<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<  JAS   NE GO POLNAM KONDEZATOROT SO  8 WATI   VO SEKUNDA   TUKO  MOJATA CELOKUPNA POTROSNJA  E NA SAAT  VREME     A ENERGYJATA  STO JA DOBIVAM  E NASEKOI  10 SEKUNDI    TOA ZNACI  DEKA  JAS DOBIVAM   NA SEKO 10 SEK,  WATZA  OKOLU  45   ILI GRUBO KAZANO  50 WATI   E PA SEGA TI VIDI  KOLKU JAS DOBIVAM   ,, DALI POMALCE  OD TOA STO NOSAM NA VLEZ  ILI  NOSAM  POMACE  A DOBIVAM POVISE  NA IZLEZ     
   BRATE     OVAA SHEM A SE TI KAZUVA   NEMA  POGOLEMI DETALJI  NO SEPAK AKO SE RAZBIRAS DOVOLNO  KE MOZES  DA NAPRAVIS  I DA SE UVERIS   DEKA   TOA STO SUM GO NAPRAVIL   TOA   E VISTINA

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Re: Half TPU
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2007, 10:21:27 PM »
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Re: Half TPU
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2007, 07:08:06 AM »
so he replaced his speed diode with two legs of a transister, now it charges very fast.

Is that correct Macedonia CD?

Rich

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Re: Half TPU
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2007, 07:33:03 AM »
A big thank you to Digilab for his time and effort in translating this text. 

This is a path not worth distracting us, though we give our Macedonian friend every kind and best wish in his continued research.

Digilabs translation:
Hello Bruce,

About the part of message which is written on Macedonian:

Start of translation
Big Regards,
Try to do something like I did. See the pictures above, they are mine and the schematic is mine. Look what I have done. If you do reply tell me where I did wrong, and I want to tell you something else.
<<<<<< I am not charging the capacitor with 8 Watts in second, but all my drawing of power is in one hour, but the energy which I am receiving is on every 10 seconds. That means I am having on every 10 seconds power of 45 Watts or around 50 Watts, so now you see how much I am getting, is it less than what I am bringing to input or I bring less and get more on output.
This schematic is telling you everything. There are not any details left, so if you understand enough you can do it for yourself and you will see that what I have done is true.
End of translation

My comment:
This part of message is meant for me, especially to explain and justify the power/energy relationship the way he understands them, since I tried to explain that part to him in my previous mail.
I saw the schematics and the pictures of the coils. He is showing only one coil, so I guess he is stacking at least two of them and what he is getting is an air core transformer, where magnetic coupling is poor, so that?s why he has to raise the frequency in order to induce some voltage in the secondary coil.
Anyhow, from the message again it?s obvious that he doesn?t understand exactly the definitions of power and energy. If you are drawing 8 Watts of Power, that?s 8 Watts of Power, but multiplied by the time you are drawing that power gives you the energy.
For him Power of 8 Watts drawn in 1 hour is again 8 Watts of Energy, it?s not 8 Watt-Hour of Energy (or 8x3600=28.8 KwSeconds). So the way he understands is: I am inputting 8 Watts of Power (doesn?t matter for how long), but I am outputting 50 Watts of power (again, doesn?t matter for how long). So 50 Watts compared to 8 Watts, there is my gain. Ahhh, if life was like that?.  Smiley
I did explain this to him, told him the definitions and equations, and since at this moment I am not in Macedonia, I told him to ask any electrical engineer over there to explain this to him.

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Re: Half TPU
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2007, 09:46:08 PM »
ok   i teling to all    i susces   
  i  have another experiment   and  a make this
 my 10 second is no longer  10   i make  of  3 second  to give  my power of 50 watt  ok ok ok ok ok
  i hope  to anderstend  how  you to make  of this divices  but you  dont  anderstend 
  you traid  to make beter  <<<<  i make  this  >>>>>  but  i dont tell to you  how  to make  this charging whit  more speed   
  i  whant time  i said to you  only i whant to talk  whit  specialist man ho anderstend  elektroniks   
                        HEXT TIME  I CAN EXPLANE  AND  I CAN MAKE  I VIDEO CLIP HOW 
                         STEVEN  MARK  MAKE  HIS T.P.U   AND  I SAY   ITS  VERY SIMPE
                        ONLY  <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< POWERFOLL   ELEKTRO MAGNET WHIT
                        VERY SMALL ELE. ENER. ....... AND ANOTHER  VERY HIGH SPEED
                        TO MOVE  THIS ELEKTRO MAGNET ... THAT IS EXPLANE  EVERTHING
                         HOW IS WORK  HIS TPU  AND  HIS  SECRET  .....
                        IN HIS VIDEO CLIP  S. M.  SAY  MOVE ELEKTRONS  IN WIRES WHIT
                        ELEKTROMAGNET FILD   WHIT 5000 CICLE  IN SECOND   HO GIVET
                         DC OUT  THE PROBLEM IS  HOW  TO MAKE POWERFULL ELE.MAG.
                         WHIT  VERY SMAL ELE. ENERGY  IF NOW HOW  THEN YOU CAN
                        MAKE TPU  LIKE S.M.  THEN YOU GET 1000 AMPERS  IF YOU WHANT
                        ONLY IF YOU MAKE POWERFOLL ELE. MAG. WHIT VERY SMALL ELEK.
                        ENERGY THIS EXPLANE  EVERTHING . 
                        MAKE ELEKTRO MAGNET  POWERFULL ONLY WHIT  9VOLT BATERY
                       WHIT 0,1 AMPER AND MOVE WHIT HIGH SPEED  THAT IS TPU  AND YOU SOLVED  HIS MISTERY  THANKS                           

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Re: Half TPU
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2007, 10:52:13 PM »

                   <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< POWERFOLL   ELEKTRO MAGNET WHIT
                        VERY SMALL ELE. ENER. ....... AND ANOTHER  VERY HIGH SPEED
                        TO MOVE  THIS ELEKTRO MAGNET ... THAT IS EXPLANE  EVERTHING
                         HOW IS WORK  HIS TPU  AND  HIS  SECRET  .....
                        IN HIS VIDEO CLIP  S. M.  SAY  MOVE ELEKTRONS  IN WIRES WHIT
                        ELEKTROMAGNET FILD   WHIT 5000 CICLE  IN SECOND   HO GIVET
                         DC OUT  THE PROBLEM IS  HOW  TO MAKE POWERFULL ELE.MAG.
                         WHIT  VERY SMAL ELE. ENERGY  IF NOW HOW  THEN YOU CAN
                        MAKE TPU  LIKE S.M.  THEN YOU GET 1000 AMPERS  IF YOU WHANT
                        ONLY IF YOU MAKE POWERFOLL ELE. MAG. WHIT VERY SMALL ELEK.
                        ENERGY THIS EXPLANE  EVERTHING . 
                        MAKE ELEKTRO MAGNET  POWERFULL ONLY WHIT  9VOLT BATERY
                       WHIT 0,1 AMPER AND MOVE WHIT HIGH SPEED  THAT IS TPU  AND YOU SOLVED  HIS MISTERY  THANKS                           

Actually my friend from Macedonia, that is half of it!  :)  The half we have not gotten to yet!  LOL

Everything I quoted, I agree with, as many of you know by now.  What is the answer?
1.  Invert the 9volt battery to AC.
2.  Set the AC Hz to 7.23 Hz.

This give you a very fast oscillating electromagnet, and gives you a very strong electromagnet because it is tapped close to Shumanns resonance.  (Remember Marco's magnets video?) 


This will squeeze the electrons, to assist control and to move them where you want.

SM's words:

You know, it is very similar to the idea of a long garden hose.
Picture a hose with water in it.
If you pick up one end and move along the length of the hose you will
move the water constantly along in the direction you are moving.
You could also squeeze the hose in the direction to move the water
along as well.
And you could do both to control the movement of the water more
precisely.

You can think of the movement of water as the movement of
electrons through the collector coils.


Happy Days!
Bruce

 

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