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giantkiller

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #795 on: July 14, 2007, 01:11:16 AM »
@HopeForHumanity ,
Doesn't it make you think though?

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #796 on: July 14, 2007, 11:26:21 AM »
@giantkiller,

It gives me two thoughts. It does question sm's intentions, but many have seen too many strange things happening when trying to replicate the device, and if he was already getting away with it then he would not waste time to reply to emails and give any information to mannix. The email doesn't make sense in a way that it claims he does all this stuff and gets away with it, but it creates the question why does he even give clues if he is doing fine "scamming". Thats why I don't really care about what the email says. The other thought that comes to mind, just how many people want to put down steven mark. The email doesn't really have any links to information examples emails or any conclusive evidence that steven mark is a scammer.

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #797 on: July 14, 2007, 12:28:58 PM »
I and others have repeatedly called for Otto and Roberto to carry out some proper tests to establish the true power consumption of the device when powering the lamp load. They know the importance of doing this if nothing else but to confirm to themeselves that it is more than induction lighting their lamp. Their documentation is very good but unfortunately lacks this vital information.

Clive

Which of course is one of the most typical signs of energy scammers.
Have a look at #9 of this link. http://amasci.com/freenrg/fnrg.html

Quote:
The inventor doesn't publish successful scientific research papers (i.e. he doesn't publish detailed replication instructions,)
or if he does, other researchers can't get them to work. Something vital wasn't included.

ronotte

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #798 on: July 14, 2007, 01:41:07 PM »
Hey Ergo,

don't you dare to say thinghs like that you have posted in this thread:  

I DON'T WANT MONEY FROM ANYBODY I NEVER ASKED

what I did has been an original effort to help everybody interested and is all that I actually know!

So in my opinion people like you should be banned to write in this Forum.

Roberto

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Commercial Product versus Basic Research
« Reply #799 on: July 14, 2007, 02:51:10 PM »
@clive, @ergo

did it ever occur to you that your beloved link
http://amasci.com/freenrg/fnrg.html

only concerns inventors/researchers asking for money?

Do you understand this?  YES or NO?

Neither Roberto nor Otto have ever asked for money.

Neither Roberto nor Otto is doing this so that clive and ergo can show their agressive impatience of basic research.

Do you understand that you have no rights of any shape or form to expect something from them?  YES or NO?
They are not asking anything from you, what right to you have to ask anything from them?

Do you fully understand the following quotes:

"Basic research is when I'm doing what I don't know what I'm doing!"  Wernher von Braun

"If I knew what I was doing, I would not call it research."  Albert Einstein

Roberto and Otto are doing basic research in an area where there are no maps or charts.
They are not presenting a comercial product, nor are they asking anyone for money.
Nor are either making any claims of excess energy.  The topic title was a bit over optimistic, that is all.

If it really is only traditional induction that is lighting their lamps, they will some day realize this and publicize it.  Criticism is only welcome if it is positive and constructive and takes into account that hobby researchers have jobs and family and resource limits to consider.

It seems to me that this is a good opportunity for both Clive and Ergo to keep their egoistic mouths shut.  And that is putting it in a very diplomatic manner.

If either of you persist in directly or indirectly accussing Roberto or Otto of scamming someone out of money, I will ask Harti to put you on read-only.

Earl
I and others have repeatedly called for Otto and Roberto to carry out some proper tests to establish the true power consumption of the device when powering the lamp load. They know the importance of doing this if nothing else but to confirm to themeselves that it is more than induction lighting their lamp. Their documentation is very good but unfortunately lacks this vital information.
Clive
Which of course is one of the most typical signs of energy scammers.
Have a look at #9 of this link. http://amasci.com/freenrg/fnrg.html
Quote:
The inventor doesn't publish successful scientific research papers (i.e. he doesn't publish detailed replication instructions,)
or if he does, other researchers can't get them to work. Something vital wasn't included.

giantkiller

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #800 on: July 14, 2007, 03:20:15 PM »
@Roberto & Otto,
I second the motion and stand behind you in your efforts!
That is not because I am heavily vested in all this either but because of what you stated about not asking for money.
Here is the challenge to all again: If you can power your house in a stand alone condition you will not be able to manage the amount of money flowing in. Plan your dissertation correctly and you can time the market.

Whether we get to the end game with this or not, I have stood on the shoulders of great men while lifting others up, like you, Roberto and others, have done also. It is not a measure of how much one contributes but that they do with such immense vigor and commraderie.

Those of us who are not asking for money have worked on and in the most important and valuable concepts of our time. We have made up an international team of the most 'Can do' people on the planet. We have seen ans done things others can't even imagine. It's not the destination but the journey that has the most reward. And its all documented here in these threads.

So pay no heed to the 'Newcomers' who try to tell the graduates what to do, what we have done, what we can't do or haven't done. They are gambling on Shifting sand.

Oh wait! I hear someone popping up and asking if I, giantkiller, have OU.

In the words of Ironhead: 'Just build it'.

Thanks Roberto for this latest step.

The latest contribution was bobbin wound control coils. I decided, on my own, to wire single layer jackets. Tao's latest post exclaims to do just that. Ask yourself 'how was giantkiller ahead of that'?  LOTR 1:2.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg21437.html#msg21437
If you build anything that gets some results then you can recognize the non-builders in the first couple of words they post. If ya haven't seen it, ya don't know. Period.

In the words of giantkiller and I speak for the others: get onboard or man overboard. The graduate builders have something far greater to their acclaim: We are doing it and you are not.

I go back to testing and revising. So few can even do that.

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #801 on: July 14, 2007, 03:32:47 PM »
@Earl, Gk

Ditto

Roberto

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #802 on: July 14, 2007, 04:09:43 PM »
@Earl, Gk

Ditto

Roberto
Sometimes, ya just have to get the flyswatter out.

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #803 on: July 14, 2007, 05:02:42 PM »
Hello all,

@Earl, GK, Roberto

let the PC heroes wright what they want.

WE KNOW WHATS OUR JOB.

This PC heroes are soooo......

Otto

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #804 on: July 14, 2007, 05:35:35 PM »
Hello all,

again me with a little question:

As you know my English is.....

What do you understand under the therm of  "Lamp wire"????

Is this a 2 stranded kable or can this be something else???

The more answers the better.

Otto

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #805 on: July 14, 2007, 05:55:11 PM »
Here is what I use as lamp wire 16 awg.

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #806 on: July 14, 2007, 06:06:42 PM »
Hello all,

@Earl, GK, Roberto

let the PC heroes wright what they want.

WE KNOW WHATS OUR JOB.

This PC heroes are soooo......

Otto


Who are you refering to?

LOL...

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #807 on: July 14, 2007, 06:48:57 PM »
This is the radio shack 16awg speaker wire. It works too. And I might add quite well. ;)

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #808 on: July 14, 2007, 06:54:18 PM »
Hello tao,

Im refering to people that are only wrighting and wrighting but wrighting crap.

In this forum there are 3 groups of people:

1. the theorists

you tao gave us as the first the points how a TPU works, and a lot of good theorists that helps us. This was very helpful because in the beginning we didnt know what and how....

2. the workers

GK, Roberto....and a lot of people building and trying to use your ideas and of course thinking a lot of the theories too

3.PC heroes

this people are f...g the forum and all us. They are "working" on the theories but never builded even 1 coil. But the point is that they think to have the right to critisise everyone here. They know "everything", pisses on all the work done .....

Otto

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #809 on: July 14, 2007, 07:04:04 PM »
Hello all,

guys thanks. I was asking because Im using a classical lamp wire. My little litzes are thicker, much thicker. Hmmm...

My Mobius is good. When I connect more and more "parts" of my Mobius I see that my lamp is brighter and brighter....but only good, is not good enough. My Mobius must be muuuuch better.

You all know how my coils looks like.

Today, after months and months using my "special" coils, I spreaded my coils over the collector. Result???Hmmm....the same!!!! I didnt measure my frequency. It would be logic that my frequency is now much higher to have the same effect. Tomorrow I will see about the frequency.

Otto