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weri812 · « **Reply #690 on:** July 04, 2007, 05:40:34 AM »

@ wcernuska

can you point to that video
would love to see that

@ gk have you fired up that ecd w/ 4 g cable and alum wire frame
if so how did it go

wer

Bruce_TPU · « **Reply #691 on:** July 04, 2007, 07:12:27 AM »

Hello All,

My partner and I experimented on the ECD tonight. Fried a driver to the second frequency almost right off. I got a picture of sine waves, with two frequencies. We still have much more to do with our circuit and how we are wired to the ECD. We did take Jason's advice and are using some very good Coax to input the frequencies to the ECD (So many wires, so little time! LOL)

IMPORTANT:
Does anyone realize how important a post, reply #688 was? It is the EXACT thing I have been saying in my thread. BEP also. And if you read carefully there is some interesting information there! (On a side note, the post after him had too much information. I could make out watch batteries in the 6" under the tape, but never posted this. Nor is it in any video. Nor was the videos released two years ago, if I am not mistaken.)

Quote from: Technoalchemist on July 04, 2007, 04:07:54 AM

Hi all. Great stuff you have here. Congrats. I too believe SM has it, as Tesla and Henry Moray before him. I have watched the videos, read the correspondences, and most of this posting here. I would like to make a few comments regarding SMs' words from the PDF on PESwiki and one video......He does mention earth resonant frequencies. (7.83Hz) He also speaks ALOT about Tesla, and his wacky TV story. I have been getting into "natural radio" (ELF) quite a bit lately. If I understand Schumann resonances and frequency harmonics at all, our "earth-resonant antenna" becomes 31.42' long @ 7.83MHz, or 314' @ 783KHz. I could be wrong. I have read that our 60Hz power system resonates with the Schumann cavity. I believe one of the coils acts as an antenna. Calculating toriod antennas may be different, but I know they are used for satellite. When he said to "never tune to exact frequencies of conversion" I suspected he meant this one. For it also appeared to me that the discord in the other frequencis is where the useable power comes from. The fact that the unit produces RF burns was another clue to me. The gyroscopic effect another. He also mentioned Tesla and "tuned magnetometers" His commentary could also be a bunch of B.S. too. Very good to see Bob Boyce here.
Now I have some questions:
1: Has anybody seen the UEC patents? I think the MPT are rubbish
2: Are you all in concensus that there is a battery in play here?

Its an honor to be here with such an astute group of folks, doing some of the greatest energy research for REAL public good in probably a century. Three words for the experimenters: SAFTEY, SAFTEY, SAFTEY! Don't cook yerself off with these great toys.

This is the answer to what is missing in our ECD, as I have been trying to say!! I need help on the mechanic, but this IS how it needs to function. (PLUS all of the other parts, of course. 3 frequencies, opposing, diffent sources, identical, out of phase slightly, etc)

Cheers,
Bruce

HumblePie · « **Reply #692 on:** July 04, 2007, 09:17:52 AM »

Too much info you say? Then you tell us you have never heard it and that 'it does not exist'? Be nice. I'm new... and I have a great memory for details, but I don't recall 'where' I saw it... It was between Nov '05 and maybe June '06. It must have been an early video because SM only had one 6" unit and he only powered two 60 Watt Table Lamps. They seemed dim also, not full brightness, less so after screwing in the 2nd Lamp. It was filmed in the same looking house from SM's left side from the end of a long folding table and some from accross the table. The lamps were beyond SM, one on table, 2nd on the floor. No Lamp Shades! It was a short video. He never mentioned Drills or TV's. I only saw those later vid's here recently, where he had his Invertor to run a drill and TV.

He insterted one camera sized "Button Cell / Watch type battery", thin and US Quarter Dollar sized. He inserted it into the upper portion from the inside of the ring and the recepticle was slanted 45 degrees towards the middle. He clearly stated: "This battery was required to start the process"... I did not hear him say it needed to stay running, but it seemed like it did, unless it primed and then turned itself off. This is why I've been asking all these questions!

This is why I asked if this thing still requires unbilical to freq' gen's in Reply #664, and again in #676. I am still reading the posts or I would have realized you guys (or maybe just you) did not know about it. I took that vague response to #676 question as "No", and kept on reading. I guess Linsay meant 'Yes... still needs umbilicals'. I wish GiantKiller was till posting.

Now you all out there, help find this video so the rest of you can see with your own eyes a 'rediscovered' artifact that surely matters!

HumblePie · « **Reply #693 on:** July 04, 2007, 09:52:18 AM »

BTW - Quote from http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t46394.html

"Earth's background base frequency, or "heartbeat," (called Schumann resonance, or SR) is rising dramatically. Though it varies among geographical regions, for decades the overall measurement was 7.8 cycles per second. This was once thought to be a constant; global military communications developed on this frequency. Recent reports set the rate at over 11 cycles, and climbin."

This is because of HAARP ELF replacement technology. Time is speeding up because of this. See: http://www.carnicom.com/time2.htm

So what is the resonance freq' today and what is the deviation so we can all design units that tune the correct frequency? I see Otto's and Ronnette's pdf and wave forms. The sinus pieces are displayed at 5uS time base.

Where did they see 'pumping action at Schumann frequency'? I don't see any time bases set that slow in the video or pdf.

ronotte · « **Reply #694 on:** July 04, 2007, 11:53:01 AM »

@Earl,

In ECD THERE's a MIXER and it's highly non-linear (logical kind mixer): all Mosfet's Drain pins are connected together.... there all the frequencies are indeed mixed and putting a scope probe there (ZERO point) you will see every kind of said by-products they make almost impossible to synch the scope trigger! There you can also appreciate some of the main mixing envelopes as if you select the right scope 'time line' it is possible to appreciate the main produced sum & differences frequencies just looking at the waveforms's envelope.

Roberto

ronotte · « **Reply #695 on:** July 04, 2007, 01:55:38 PM »

Hello Bruce,

I'm waiting for a much better tests documentation! so go-on, clear the mess onto your table, put the Mosfet heat-sink NEAR the ECD (it means : in contact) then start your tests safely using firstly, just to search for freqs, PS voltage of no more of +6V. So you can have all the required time to setup Oscillator's level, freq sweet point (just start with an high range (100 -200KHz) it's easier and you don't risk to smoke anything! ..then medium range and only at the end the most dangerous low freq (20-80KHz).

But please put your scope probe on Phase point to look for sinus!.

Roberto

Earl · « **Reply #696 on:** July 04, 2007, 02:52:44 PM »

Roberto,

aahhh, you are meaning the drain to source intrinsic diode in each FET?
Because of large voltage change on drain, this reverse-biased capacitance could act as a varicap and also introduce a large capacity change during rise and fall times. This may be a factor which is non-negligible.

This effect might change if using MacedoniaCD and Bob.R's two series diodes.
Interesting experiment to compare with 2 series diodes - and with none.

This would not be present in a vacuum tube switch.

Regards, Earl

Quote from: ronotte on July 04, 2007, 11:53:01 AM

@Earl,

In ECD THERE's a MIXER and it's highly non-linear (logical kind mixer): all Mosfet's Drain pins are connected together.... there all the frequencies are indeed mixed and putting a scope probe there (ZERO point) you will see every kind of said by-products they make almost impossible to synch the scope trigger! There you can also appreciate some of the main mixing envelopes as if you select the right scope 'time line' it is possible to appreciate the main produced sum & differences frequencies just looking at the waveforms's envelope.
Roberto

ronotte · « **Reply #697 on:** July 04, 2007, 03:23:26 PM »

Hi Earl,

this 2 diodes for 'isolating coil' after turn-off time is somehow new and is intringuing me...I had already planned to check the effect. I'll do it easily probably this evening !.
I'll report on it.

Roberto

Bruce_TPU · « **Reply #698 on:** July 04, 2007, 05:45:11 PM »

Thank you Roberto!

I think perhaps we have the ECD control coils wired incorrectly. Have you looked at the "simplified" diagram in the FAQ, to wire the ECD? Is it accurate? If so, I will follow that, and rewire on next attempt. Also, what fried our driver, was some of the leads we soldered to it touched and it smoked. No problem, we have plenty.

I recommend to anyone building the circuit to use the other driver that Jason is using, simply for ease of use. This driver is a booger to hook up because it is so tiny. (for us inexperienced electronic people)

I also still think someone could make a mint, selling some of these, preassembled.

Cheers,
Bruce

ronotte · « **Reply #699 on:** July 04, 2007, 06:07:42 PM »

@Bruce,

please make reference to attached pdf for detailed ECD only dwg. For any problem PM me.

Roberto

Technoalchemist · « **Reply #700 on:** July 04, 2007, 06:34:54 PM »

If anyone can find this "watch battery" video I would very much like to see it. All I ever saw was in the 2 lamps/cardboard box video where the cameraman asked him if there were any batteries, he gave a hesitant, if not sheepish "No.". So I don't necessarily doubt it. While it is VERY true that HAARP modifies the natural resonance, as with EEG attenuation/entrainment, when they shut it off, she (earth) returns to around 7.8Hz +/-, (as do our brains)....lol. There are many ELF, and other study groups that periodically measure and record this data. There are some that exclusively keep an eye on HAARP also. Recent data is available.
SM says "like a simple radio receiver", "variable tuning device", "the multiple frequencies are of too high a frequency to provide any motive effort", re-read the part about magnetometers....very telling. Why would the frequencies be "directly related to coil circumference"? Sadly. I was in a design process of an idea of my own based on Tesla and Henry Morays' work when I accidentally found SMs' work and you all less than a month ago. After reading all this, I kinda thought you almost the hard part figured out. So can you get even a LITTLE electricity out of a EM wave?...of course. How does a radio work. A CRYSTAL RADIO EVEN? But what component of the wave? How does a wideband ELF antenna work? dunno. You all are WAAAY more knowledgeable than I about electronics....very smart people. I think you need a hardcore ham radio guy in here. Unless he was another Stan Meyers, trying to throw youns off the path of his patents (which never surfaced, UEC or otherwise), I think he was trying to give you a COMPLETE pile of puzzle peices, as Tesla did.

jacob · « **Reply #701 on:** July 04, 2007, 07:12:58 PM »

Quote from: gn0stik on July 03, 2007, 04:30:00 PM

Otto and brnbrade (as well as myself and others here) followed the erfinder posts and drew inspiration from them. Otto based some ideas off of the VTA, or DTO, diagram, and brnbrade off of the mcfarland cook patent. Have you noticed how similar they are?

I have to say, if Otto's device is related, then so is brnbrades.

Otto has made claims that his device loses weight, has inertia, etc. already, on ctglabs. when dave asked him more about it he didn't answer. Nobody else has seen this yet. And we've seen lots of behavior of otto's coil that are most definitely not present in SM's device. SM has no problem touching his coils, it's quite dangerous in otto's. Although there is RF in SM's judging by the fire output, there doesn't seem to be massive fields in the room. Much more testing needs to be done. Otto only has bits and pieces of the whole picture. Others will have other parts.

Otto has already said his device is not overunity. From all accounts, that is correct. It's not. No thunder is being stolen, but we have to look at other angles in order to find the missing pieces that will make it overunity.

Have that thread moved back. It's a valid line of research and is clearly NOT disrespectful to SM. And is NOT distracting from Ottos work. They are very closely related, if you look closer..

Regards,
Rich

100% on target.

Thanks

Jacob

jacob · « **Reply #702 on:** July 04, 2007, 07:14:35 PM »

Quote from: btentzer on July 03, 2007, 08:27:09 PM

@ Stefan

I suggest upon successful replication of the brnbrade coil, it be moved BACK to this forum. I concur completely with Rich in this matter.

Thank you,
Bruce

Ditto!

z_p_e · « **Reply #703 on:** July 04, 2007, 08:11:47 PM »

@ Stefan,

May I suggest that you move ALL the topics with coil-like devices, into the TPU topic?

After all, if they use a coil, they must be related to the TPU somehow, right?

Arg...

Bruce_TPU · « **Reply #704 on:** July 04, 2007, 08:26:17 PM »

Quote from: Technoalchemist on July 04, 2007, 06:34:54 PM

While it is VERY true that HAARP modifies the natural resonance, as with EEG attenuation/entrainment, when they shut it off, she (earth) returns to around 7.8Hz +/-, (as do our brains)....lol. There are many ELF, and other study groups that periodically measure and record this data. There are some that exclusively keep an eye on HAARP also. Recent data is available.
SM says "like a simple radio receiver", "variable tuning device", "the multiple frequencies are of too high a frequency to provide any motive effort", re-read the part about magnetometers....very telling. Why would the frequencies be "directly related to coil circumference"? Sadly. I was in a design process of an idea of my own based on Tesla and Henry Morays' work when I accidentally found SMs' work and you all less than a month ago. After reading all this, I kinda thought you almost the hard part figured out. So can you get even a LITTLE electricity out of a EM wave?...of course. How does a radio work. A CRYSTAL RADIO EVEN? But what component of the wave? How does a wideband ELF antenna work? dunno. You all are WAAAY more knowledgeable than I about electronics....very smart people. I think you need a hardcore ham radio guy in here. Unless he was another Stan Meyers, trying to throw youns off the path of his patents (which never surfaced, UEC or otherwise), I think he was trying to give you a COMPLETE pile of puzzle peices, as Tesla did.

Hello All.
Facinating that people who understand the clues are reaching about the same conclusion on this "bit" of TPU function/mechanics. It should be experimented with asap as I have been pleading. Artificially producing a ELF stationary wave, to play over the 3 high frequencies and see if more music is made. And then exploring means to perhaps do this naturally by tuning the coil as an "effective" antenna as BEP suggests. I have share before the special attributes of the frequencies given to us. One is the frequency of the polaris lights and the other the frequency that ac is joined to lightning. Mix in the ELF with those frequencies and we have power. That is why it is "tuned" off of the exact Shumanns.

Cheers,
Bruce

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