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z_p_e

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #675 on: July 02, 2007, 01:30:41 AM »
Darren,
yes to all Roberto said,

Thanks for your valuable input. I dont think any of us expected the simulation to take into account the interactions of the high speed field and its effect/interaction with its local environment.

However simulations are fantastic for good circuit design. and a valuable tool in context.Thanks again.

Lindsay Mannix


@ Lindsay.

You're welcome. Just trying to help in any way possible.

I never expected radiation or other environmental effects to manifest in my simulations, and I did mention that at the start.

It was not my intention to give the impression that I'm done because the waveforms don't exhibit the artifacts Roberto is seeing. That's not one of the reasons, but sorry for the confusion.

@ Roberto.

Good luck with your research, and above all, enjoy the journey.

Regards,
Darren

PS. There's one last item I'm working on before I go. Hope to have it done soon. It's doesn't pertain to any one thread or topic, but should be helpful to all involved in the quest.

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #676 on: July 02, 2007, 09:03:41 AM »
Thank you for your response.
« Last Edit: August 09, 2007, 12:34:45 AM by HumblePie »

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #677 on: July 02, 2007, 11:52:06 AM »


Steven has never once mentioned a dds controller in fact the ecd is another angle to the same end we will see befor long just how close the origional ecd is.

All the info released is all of a general nature...that is why this is thread called ECD replication..

you are right about "experimenting"



good luck with your experiments

enjoy the show of pipes,radios and plasticene....I hope im wrong




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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #678 on: July 03, 2007, 02:29:39 AM »
Hi all,

really quiet over here...hmmmmmm



This is only important if you are building something..

Just in case there is any body still undiverted...sad really


Refering to the videos you will notice that all of the units are started up..then the load is applied.. they need to spin up first...they will not start if the load is connected.Calalyst requires a free run

Im not sure if this has been covered before..i dont think so!

Use this information carefully...unfortunately we are now trying to smoke things. and we are lookin for inertial effects in our devices.

jumping, jolting, vibration, smoke.

If they get hot you are safer ..

I leave open to suggestion how we safely run with no load ...perhaps a relay that cycles on and off every 2 seconds??

Perhaps fuses...like on the big coil in the videos?


The significance of this is to our experiments cannot be over looked.

Electron tubes will survive most this battering thats for sure...
I was running most all of my tube experiments with a load connected!!!!!arghhhhh

The danger is obvious...it means that Ottos experiment which blew up some things is what we have to do. In both cases the load was not connected..... Im sorry that this means blown fets ...and extreme frustration..
Lets work together on this and i politley ask that those who are not yet building to be patient whilst they catch up to here.

those who have built can see how abruptly the sweet spots happen....also how they need winding up to..like lighting a fire

So (thinking of GK) Gentlemen,breifly, remove your bulbs!

Perhaps 2 pipes is more your style? Ha! I still hope im wrong..sorts out the men from the boys ay?ever heard of a gelcel?

If I am I promise you all a full paragraph of humble pie.

Lindsay Mannix


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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #679 on: July 03, 2007, 02:53:51 AM »
@otto - @ronotte et al

Here is my ECD unit done to Ottos' V1.2 with the following spec.

Each CC having:
Primary - 8 feet - 0.015 lb - 23 awg - 0.5 ohm
Secondary - 30 feet - 0.015 lb - 28 awg - 2.5 ohm
Coil ends - 2 X Pogs (from my sons' old collection but real snazzy lookin) lol
Coil wound bifilar with continued secondary on top (No center tap) Hassle.
Coil Length: 1" interior x 1.5" exterior
Coil diameter: approx. 0.5"

Ring Material: 1/4" polyethylene tubing
Ring Wire: 16 awg multistrand 6" and 4"

Will start doing some less advanced tests like you guys cause I don't have the mosfets done yet, but everything else is here.

Yes sir and now we can play.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2007, 04:06:33 AM by wattsup »

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #680 on: July 03, 2007, 03:26:47 AM »
It shouldn't be long before folks realize there are many ways to get juice. The thing that will take a while is 'how to do it in a controlled and reliable way'.

I am still working on mine when not at work. I already have a pipe-dream and got burnt, literally. Sales for aluminum tubing and headphone extension cables will go up for a short while.
Even though I am probably known as one of the wilder ones, I still believe Otto is on the right track.

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #681 on: July 03, 2007, 04:09:33 AM »
I am here at my partners, watching him solder away!  I told him I am not leaving his house until we fire the ECD up tonight!  LOL

I will post Pictures of course.

@ Mannix

Not to worry, some of us can multi task and play with pipes and ECD all in the same week!  ;)  And some of those bits in the pipes you will find, need to be in our friends TPU.

@ All
Much quicker if an electronics guy will build and sell the controllers.  Just a thought.

Happy Days!
Bruce

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #682 on: July 03, 2007, 07:45:13 AM »
@ Watsup that thing looks great. :)

@ Mannix ,i am building, however it is not the Mobius design.
i could change it to that but i will try other things which came to mind first.

Marco.

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #683 on: July 03, 2007, 10:08:39 AM »
@Wattsup,

neat realization, for any help please count on me.

Roberto

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #684 on: July 03, 2007, 04:30:00 PM »
Mannix, I see a lot of veiled references to brnbrade's setup. I know you suspect him of being a purposeful distraction, as well as BEP(Wavewatcher). Well, I know BEP, and I have to say, that I know that is not the case with him.

I have to agree that there may be nothing to the brnbrade coils. All we can do is test and find out. So far, most who are going to build Ronotte's/Ottos setup, have built it. And done some testing. There's a lot more to do.

I do disagree however with your assertion that brnbrades device is not related to the study of SM's TPUs. I think the study of two transformers "slightly out of phase, or connected in reverse of one another" is quite related. Especially when it is claimed overunity, and now, self-running. Those claims have yet to be independently verified, however.

Also, what was otto's device when he went from the 50 turns setup with a single control coil to two? I bet it looked quite similar to this aside from the fact that there is no collector.

Otto and brnbrade (as well as myself and others here) followed the erfinder posts and drew inspiration from them. Otto based some ideas off of the VTA, or DTO, diagram, and brnbrade off of the mcfarland cook patent. Have you noticed how similar they are?

I have to say, if Otto's device is related, then so is brnbrades.

Otto has made claims that his device loses weight, has inertia, etc. already, on ctglabs. when dave asked him more about it he didn't answer. Nobody else has seen this yet. And we've seen lots of behavior of otto's coil that are most definitely not present in SM's device. SM has no problem touching his coils, it's quite dangerous in otto's. Although there is RF in SM's judging by the fire output, there doesn't seem to be massive fields in the room. Much more testing needs to be done. Otto only has bits and pieces of the whole picture. Others will have other parts.

Otto has already said his device is not overunity. From all accounts, that is correct. It's not. No thunder is being stolen, but we have to look at other angles in order to find the missing pieces that will make it overunity.

Have that thread moved back. It's a valid line of research and is clearly NOT disrespectful to SM. And is NOT distracting from Ottos work. They are very closely related, if you look closer.. 

Regards,
Rich

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« Reply #685 on: July 03, 2007, 08:13:53 PM »
Hi Roberto,

I see no reason to expect heterodyne by-products since there is no apparent non-linear element ( = mixer) in the TPU.

Do you see a non-linear element somewhere that I missed?

Regards, Earl
@Darren,
thanks for your simulation Darren, it seems that the peak frequency summation  is really equal to reality. What I don't see is:

 - by product of freqs heterodying
... could you try to just offset the freq values I gave You (like in actual operation...is difficult to centre the exact value) and see the effects?
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Roberto

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #686 on: July 03, 2007, 08:27:09 PM »
@ Stefan

I suggest upon successful replication of the brnbrade coil, it be moved BACK to this forum.  I concur completely with Rich in this matter.

Thank you,
Bruce  :)

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #687 on: July 03, 2007, 11:00:22 PM »
Hey Y'all,  Pipes, tubes, plastic?  I'm still reading...from both ends.  Somone please tell me what Reply#'s talk about this.
Humble
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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #688 on: July 04, 2007, 04:07:54 AM »
Hi all. Great stuff you have here. Congrats. I too believe SM has it, as Tesla and Henry Moray before him. I have watched the videos, read the correspondences, and most of this posting here. I would like to make a few comments regarding SMs' words from the PDF on PESwiki and one video......He does mention earth resonant frequencies. (7.83Hz) He also speaks ALOT about Tesla, and his wacky TV story. I have been getting into "natural radio" (ELF) quite a bit lately. If I understand Schumann resonances and frequency harmonics at all, our "earth-resonant antenna" becomes 31.42' long @ 7.83MHz, or 314' @ 783KHz. I could be wrong. I have read that our 60Hz power system resonates with the Schumann cavity. I believe one of the coils acts as an antenna. Calculating toriod antennas may be different, but I know they are used for satellite. When he said to "never tune to exact frequencies of conversion" I suspected he meant this one. For it also appeared to me that the discord in the other frequencis is where the useable power comes from. The fact that the unit produces RF burns was another clue to me. The gyroscopic effect another. He also mentioned Tesla and "tuned magnetometers" His commentary could also be a bunch of B.S. too. Very good to see Bob Boyce here.
Now I have some questions:
1: Has anybody seen the UEC patents? I think the MPT are rubbish
2: Are you all in concensus that there is a battery in play here?

Its an honor to be here with such an astute group of folks, doing some of the greatest energy research for REAL public good in probably a century. Three words for the experimenters: SAFTEY, SAFTEY, SAFTEY! Don't cook yerself off with these great toys.

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #689 on: July 04, 2007, 05:01:28 AM »
I did see him install a watch battery in a 6" unit on video a few years ago where he powered two 60W End-Table Lamps.  How much kick is really needed?  Can you reduce the drive frequency power levels as total conversion is neared or do you really need to start so high?  I'm still reading so I don't fry my face off by powering up in ignorance.