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WaveWatcher

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #450 on: June 20, 2007, 02:29:28 AM »
Sorry no input lately. Have my earlier project knocking my socks off right now. Research the effects from it I am finding direct relationships to SM stuff. Please take a gander at my attachments. Not supposed to be online right now.
I am convinced the amp goes in the middle because of time dilation and the coil is Mobius in a coaxial or waveguide construction. 180 degree seems to refer to phase angle not position or quantity of coils. The signal source is earth's core. The SM coil and my contraption are simply Farady pickup coils.
Loop antennas provide multiple gains at higher than designed resonance at almost random points of the spectrum. I am convinced his coils were flat tubing, waveguides or coaxial and Mobius.

Am I sounding weird? You would be too.

More later.

I am convinced THIS IS NO FAKE. Since mine knocked me flat last night - after it was disconnected I don't think mine is either (no caps no controller!). Maybe I've just gone nuts. I'll sleep on it.

WaveWatcher

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #451 on: June 20, 2007, 02:32:23 AM »
forgot this one - and there are plenty others out there. Most done after SM work.

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #452 on: June 20, 2007, 03:27:48 AM »
Congratulations you are still alive WaveWatcher and you might be crazy but you are not wrong.


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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #453 on: June 20, 2007, 03:32:46 AM »
Sorry no input lately. Have my earlier project knocking my socks off right now. Research the effects from it I am finding direct relationships to SM stuff. Please take a gander at my attachments. Not supposed to be online right now.
I am convinced the amp goes in the middle because of time dilation and the coil is Mobius in a coaxial or waveguide construction. 180 degree seems to refer to phase angle not position or quantity of coils. The signal source is earth's core. The SM coil and my contraption are simply Farady pickup coils.
Loop antennas provide multiple gains at higher than designed resonance at almost random points of the spectrum. I am convinced his coils were flat tubing, waveguides or coaxial and Mobius.

Am I sounding weird? You would be too.

More later.

I am convinced THIS IS NO FAKE. Since mine knocked me flat last night - after it was disconnected I don't think mine is either (no caps no controller!). Maybe I've just gone nuts. I'll sleep on it.


Your ??? knocked you flat last night?  A TPU of your own design?  Otto's replication?  How did it "Knock you flat"?

You mentioned "time dilation".  How would you know that?  I mentioned that in my thread some time ago, but figured everyone thought I was crazy.  Why do you think this is so?  How did you wind your  coil and with what wire? 

Sorry for so many questions, but we on this forum are all very tired of riddles.  :)  So details would be wonderful!  (I am sure you understand!) 

Hmm... I think SM's device has interaction with 7.23 HZ, but I do not believe it is an Antenna in the clearest sense of the word.  It is similar to what Otto is doing.  But I do believe there is more to it.

Warm regards,
Bruce

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #454 on: June 20, 2007, 03:48:00 AM »
ok guys ..

ATTACHED is a PNG file that has SCREENSHOTS of the 15" TPU, the preliminary TPU, and the open black TPU from SM's Videos.

link to post: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2285.msg36145.html#msg36145

The Image file is 3.79MB in size. I tried to keep it as high quality as possible + PNG format

one thing i find important to note is that i see FOUR coils in the open black TPU .. 2 thick wire windings, and 2 fine wire windings. (they might ALL be the same thickness, though hard to tell).. i have added notes in the images as well.

EDIT: ANOTHER point as WAVEWATCHER says .. the WIRES are FLAT and horizontal parallel in the 15" crosssection cutout.


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« Last Edit: June 20, 2007, 05:50:51 AM by devilzangel »

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #455 on: June 20, 2007, 04:56:44 AM »
@ WaveWatcher
I have read through both of your downloads.  Very impressive information.  Now I see how you came to the time dilation theory.  General relativistic electromagnetic effects explains it fairly well.

The other download CERTAINLY makes the case for Alternating current being used in the control coils rather than Direct Current.  I too have said this for some time now, and I am convinced that this is what SM did.  But your download give the scientific reason "why" I do believe.

As far as winding the collectors as an antenna, I and my researchers had thought of that but then had set that idea aside.  So, in your theory of operation, we have collectors with mobius, wound as an antenna, tuned to resonate.  Alternating Current for the input to control coils, and then the frequencies to bring resonance = electrical power output.  And "tuning" the Alternating Current to the core (7.23 Hz) would be best.  Is this your thoughts?  (It sure sounds alot like mine! LOL)

Thank you for your time,
Bruce

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #456 on: June 20, 2007, 05:02:36 AM »
ok guys ..

ATTACHED is a PNG file that has SCREENSHOTS of the 15" TPU, the preliminary TPU, and the open black TPU from SM's Videos.

link to post: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2285.msg36145.html#msg36145

The Image file is 3.79MB in size. I tried to keep it as high quality as possible + PNG format

one thing i find important to note is that i see FOUR coils in the open black TPU .. 2 thick wire windings, and 2 fine wire windings. (they might ALL be the same thickness, though hard to tell).. i have added notes in the images as well.

EDIT: ANOTHER point as WAVEWATCHER says .. the WIRES are FLAT and horizontal parallel in the 15" crosssection cutout.

I have also uploaded the same image file to ImageShack (i dont know what the fetch limit is on imageshack, so this link might stop showing after some of u DL from there)
(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8863/smvideosscreenshotsaz9.th.png)
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Contact Stefan and post this on OU for download. Or give us a work around for image shack. We shouldnt downloading a toolbar buddy/loader.

Thank you. giantkiller.

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #457 on: June 20, 2007, 05:21:33 AM »
@ WaveWatcher - Very Interesting , this is inline with my copper tube and coaix bradeing. I know this is ottos thread so i"ll post in your thread, tomarrow, it's late I'm tired . Mike  and thanks you for the post

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #458 on: June 20, 2007, 05:29:17 AM »
Ok. I?ll take a break for some background. Yes, I can be full of it but I am an experimenter in many things, especially if the ?Laws? say it can?t be done.
No, I?m not SM. I?m a longtime HAM, currently an EE and formerly titled ?wave propagation specialist? and  ?data analyst? when I was doing SIGINT for Big Daddy DIRNSA. (In GOD we trust, all others we monitor!). I worked in some of the same stations as Ed Dames (now there is a nut! Spoon benders?)
I wiped out AM reception for two blocks when I was 10. And I had an NSA ARPA handle before any of you heard of what became the Internet.

Enough.

For months I have been working on the magnetic equivalent of what is commonly known as a pilot valve. A simple device to use a very weak force to control a much stronger force. Like you can use a few inches of vacuum to control thousands of pounds of pressure. Allen Bradley uses an electromagnetic equivalent in many of their air circuit breakers. It is two plain solenoid coils at opposite ends of a cylinder. You energize one and the plunger is pulled to the coil ? and the reverse ? after removing power from the other coil. In the middle is a bearing for the plunger that is actually made of PMs with North all facing center. When the plunger is at either end it completes and maintains the magnetic circuit. The circuit complete the attraction locks the plunger in-place (against 10s of pounds of reverse force!) The coil on that end has no power. Apply power to the opposite coil and it sucks the plunger to it completing that magnetic circuit and breaking the other. All with a DC signal and only a few milliamps and simply by ?redirecting the magnetic flux away from the previous completed flux circuit.

I think ? why can?t I do that and use the resultant electrical energy instead of moving a plunger? Forget OU. I just want to see if I can do it. One thing ran into another and I tied the pulse from one coil to another with some LC (no, not big enough mFd to hold a shock) to phase it so it is useful and next thing I know I have two small hacked RS transformers with PM inserted linked as one howling, audibly,  about 300hZ with no signal applied.

Yes, I know how it is with wannabe?s and skeptics (and wives too!). I feel your pain. But continue ? be thorough ? use scientific rigor ? try to understand what is going on ? do research ? BE SAFE! It was my research that led me to you. I?m an opensource kinda guy also. But it will work every time and be useful before I put someone else through this hell.
I want to be helpful but one thing at a time. What I do believe is this:

Earth?s core frequency has dropped a bit since SM.
It isn?t possible for most of us to build a resonant loop at the base freq. Hence the pickup coil ? just what is needed when trying to collect energy from a signal generator operating at much lower frequency that the resonant freq of the pick-up loop.
The frequency ratios are most likely 1-4-7 (as in mine) or multiples of those numbers.
You have to find 7 first and look for a 1 and 4 that ?series aid? when they sync.
Your frequencies will vary between projects AND physical association with magnetic and non-magnetic mass near the coils.
The whole thing is probably a never ending Mobius electron-gun.
Rotating around the ring each pulse ?squeezes the water hose? at just the right time to accelerate the paired electrons to the next ?squeeze point?. The ?squeeze? must happen just behind the electron pair and not on top of it (boom).
Magnets are to a massive flux field as a lens is to light.

The SM coils appear real. Yes mine is unique but much of the same work must be done by the experimenter and the device to get the results.

Things have probably changed since I worked for ?The Company?, they didn?t give a hoot what folks did ? but all of it was recorded and filed for future reference. Until I?m sure I?m not nuts, can document, calculate, explain, reproduce and broadcast the final details through multiple channels, I?m not posting enough detail to be discredited by folks that use math that can?t prove itself and think any line exists beyond an arc.
My device exhibits many of the SM reported properties as the SM coil and the tests performed on my earlier attached docs, even after the A.C. is removed.

Some say there are two kinds of people ? Those who understand thermodynamics and those who do not. I agree.

Until I can give you enough documented detail to replicate my results I?ll post only when I really believe my information is useful ? as I?m sure you all would wish ? as I would wish.

I apologize for my exuberance before.
   

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #459 on: June 20, 2007, 05:36:21 AM »
If I am understang the SM device correctly - DC pulses would be correct as you must temporarily dislodge/expand the Earth's flux to create movement of that flux. The collapse of your flux, along with the Earth's, when your signal goes zer0, is probably what is squeezing the water hose.

Movement of the earth's field would be a good thing for this coil.
Stick with the info you've learned from SM and the other's here. Don't change direct abrubtly as my device is a different animal.

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #460 on: June 20, 2007, 05:58:23 AM »
@ WaveWatcher

I am very glad to have you on our board.  I think that you have much to bring to our TPU table.  I do agree about not changing direction.  BUT  ;) with that said, there are always avenues of experimentation that can be easily done, especially by some of our more skilled members.  So, I would suggest, as time progress's any future ideas for experimentation with our ECD be posted, and someone, I am sure, will oblige. 

The AC will be important when the time comes.  the "1-4-7" explains alot, and someone hit on it earlier.

Working backwards:  (sound familiar? :) )
7 - 249.93 KHz
4 - 142.82 KHz
1 - 35.705 KHz


I have more thoughts but for another day.  But this we can experiment with now!! :)

Thank you for your time,
Bruce

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #461 on: June 20, 2007, 06:00:52 AM »
WaveWatcher Thats to funny. I'm working on 2 coils face to face with a small magnet in the center and one at each end of the coils NS (Bismuth) < SN (Center Neo) > NS (Bismuth), when the coils energize the oscillation starts - vary the current the oscillation changes as fro the feed back circuit or how you may want to incorporate it in the system. Mike

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« Reply #462 on: June 20, 2007, 06:03:30 AM »
Tesla found that the charged particles that collected in his single-wire globe would rotate clockwise due to the Earth's mazgnetic field - this implies a magnetic field that is perpendicular to the earth - not north-south.  

Notice CW is in the northern hemisphere - like SM's ring.  I guess that Marinov's MAGVID also rotates this way.  Perhaps it rotates faster one way than the other - one would increase the other subtract - again Russell is correct.

This is in-line with the true depiction of the earth's magnetic field in which the vortices that are known as the "lines of force" are perpendicular to the surface and the earth is not a single magnet, but two - Walter Russell also showed this fact - how very cleverly the universe is constructed...as it must be.  

Would you not create a current if you created a rotating magnetic field in the presence of a conductor? - CW in northern hemisphere - CCW in southern.  Notice how the forced rotating magnetic field "rolls" as it rotates - with the same loops as drift current.

The toroidal overwrap that SM used on later versions, what could be it's significance? Perhaps it does not radiate, or would it not receive?

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« Reply #463 on: June 20, 2007, 06:12:47 AM »
2 Tests tonight....
Can my triple step-up coil (Tesla Style) newman motor light a bulb on one coil?

Can the magnet bar be made to move with the addition of dc in one other coil. (as per doc posted earlier)?

Results , Yes and Yes, when 9V was applied to the upper coil the magnetic field disappeared in the device and the bar rotated freely by hand. There was no change in the output of the light.

Cam

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« Reply #464 on: June 20, 2007, 06:25:55 AM »
For anyone that might be interested, I've reduced Otto's and Roberto's circuit down to a more simple representation.

You'll notice that the input is analogous to an OR gate, but in the real circuit (the previous one I posted) battery current draw increases as more HI's are present on the inputs at the same time.

I've been trying to understand why Cam's experiment showed a significant decrease in output power when the 3rd frequency was introduced. I believe the reason might be because the frequencies are not synchronized.

Random switching will only cause the spikes to coincide occassionally, and when they are not "in sync", the primaries could be "ON" for a significant portion of the time (wasting power), and yet the benefit of this ON time is not reflected in the output.

I highly recommend that all build a harmonic divider (i.e. fundamental, 2nd and 3rd harmonics) and use that to feed your FETs.

Regards,
Darren