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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #390 on: June 18, 2007, 01:24:50 PM »
@Roberto
Please look at this link: http://jlnlabs.imars.com/spgen/index.htm
You can find several interesting thing at the bottom side of page, what is ghostly the same you can name "Seed" in your PDF. Is the two thing "Seed" and "Soliton wave" are identical? I know there is difference because Naudin uses ferrite rod, but I mean is the phenomenas identical? It could be help us if we know what we are looking for. Maybe a "Soliton wave" in Moebius loop?

@Dam
Just a tip: Could you measure the capacitance of Moebius loop and inductivity of CC secondary then tune into its calculated resonance's 3rd  subharmonic of your oscillator?

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Replicator

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #391 on: June 18, 2007, 01:32:21 PM »
Hi Replicator,

I cannot see how this is the same as the Soliton Pulses are created by a wave movement of the domain walls inside the ferrite which occurs after the pulse has turned off.  There is no magnetic material for this to happen in the TPU.

However if one frequency is a harmonic, will we not find one mosfet on at one point while all the others are off and this will produce only a small signal/spike while the others are off and it will appear inbetween the large signals.  Can we say for sure from the info in the PDF that this signal is unexplainable and appears out of the blue inbetween signals applied to the TPU?


D.

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #392 on: June 18, 2007, 01:36:40 PM »
Ok I re read Robertos post, so this is what we are looking for people:-

The seed, then we move this seed into the spike, and we should get that pulse peak, or as Roberto mentions sinoudal wave, and this is the conversion process were looking for, (referring to my previous post pic on page 39).
Hmm I'll see if Cam is willing to do more tests to see if we can nab this in the butt, I don't think we have an issue here, as long as we know what to look for now, and observe what happens, I'll be speaking to Cam soon about this.



Ok Roberto has confirmed below that this is the close up of the seed.
Kind Rgds,

Dom
« Last Edit: June 18, 2007, 02:14:11 PM by mrd10 »

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #393 on: June 18, 2007, 01:48:21 PM »
Hi all,

I apologize not having enough time ..... But YES WHAT POSTED IS THE SEED.

Look for that please.

Once you see it you are on the correct path...SEED is the key to open the 'DOOR'. nothing is more important...so don't give up searching until you see that event.

I don't know where it come from even if I already told you all I know about  in TPU=ECD doc. If you go to pg. 52 you will see exactly the Seed waveform for Al case!...it's a rather complex wave ...but I've already written about, please read it.

One thing is clear: if you don't put aluminum or other heatsink metals in the nearing of the ring ...THE SEED DOES NOT APPEAR'  (first pic is for Al heatsink, second pic were taken bolting MOSFET to a Mg block...please see the Signature differencies!)

@Replicator
no Soliton waves are a different thing.

Good luck to all

I'll help as I can

Roberto

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #394 on: June 18, 2007, 02:00:53 PM »
Thanks Roberto, much appreciated.

Dominic     :D

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #395 on: June 18, 2007, 02:05:33 PM »
@Dom,

in your pic seed.gif the labelling you did is correct except what you written about the second peak: actually it is no more a peak but rather a partially converted peak by the Seed standing at his left side (on the base line)!!!

Roberto

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #396 on: June 18, 2007, 02:21:26 PM »
Hi Roberto,

to save confusion, can you save that picture and modify it? I think I know what your saying, meaning that the seed that is just sitting on the larger sinoidal form is actually what it looks like when it hits spike.

Kind Rgds,

Dom

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #397 on: June 18, 2007, 02:35:29 PM »
All,

I just got news back from ELV in Germany.

They don't have an English translation of their info, and they do not ship to north america.  :-\

I'll Keep searching.

Darren

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #398 on: June 18, 2007, 02:53:17 PM »
 @ Dom,

Here is a full labelled image for all. I hope it will be of help

Roberto

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« Reply #399 on: June 18, 2007, 03:33:58 PM »
In order to assist in defining what these "seeds" are, I've decided to simulate the circuit I posted.

If I can create these "seeds", I should be able to determine what they are, and what is causing them.

I will be striving only to re-create these waveforms, and will not be looking for or expecting overunity nor conversion processes nor anything of that nature. I also realize copper masses will not be accounted for here either.

I am asking anyone that has a control coil wound with the primary and secondary as per the document, and is able, please post your coil measurements.

- Primary and Secondary inductance and resistance.
OR
- coil length and diameter, and number of turns if possible, along with wire gauges.

It wouldn't hurt to compare everyone's coil specs anyway.

Thanks,
Darren

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #400 on: June 18, 2007, 03:47:00 PM »
If you keep cooking your mosfets try the IRF730 they seem to perform well for me.

I will do some more test later in the week to verify the seed.

Cam

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #401 on: June 18, 2007, 04:43:25 PM »
Folks it just occurered to me, that SM used to talk about Vacuum tubes right, well how do they function, they produce heat, same thing what Otto and Roberto have found out,
what if this is what cancels the magnetic flux and speeds up our electrons, same as what happens ina vacuum tube.
what about the imploding tv set, if the coil malfunctioned or there was heat involved, which set things in motion, wow.........................

refer to the heat magnet motor, you bring heat next to iron, with magnetic field near it like a magnet, and what happens, it looses it magnetism, so im thinking along those lines:-http://scitoys.com/scitoys/scitoys/magnets/magnets.html

Also we know that these things produced heat, so there's the other clue.

Kind Rgds,

Dom
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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #402 on: June 18, 2007, 05:30:52 PM »
@ Dom,

Here is a full labelled image for all. I hope it will be of help

Roberto

Thanks very much Roberto.

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #403 on: June 18, 2007, 07:35:51 PM »
In order to assist in defining what these "seeds" are, I've decided to simulate the circuit I posted.

If I can create these "seeds", I should be able to determine what they are, and what is causing them.

I will be striving only to re-create these waveforms, and will not be looking for or expecting overunity nor conversion processes nor anything of that nature. I also realize copper masses will not be accounted for here either.

I am asking anyone that has a control coil wound with the primary and secondary as per the document, and is able, please post your coil measurements.

- Primary and Secondary inductance and resistance.
OR
- coil length and diameter, and number of turns if possible, along with wire gauges.

It wouldn't hurt to compare everyone's coil specs anyway.

Thanks,
Darren

ZPE, I posted my control specs a little while back before Mannix told me that the spools were wrong, they are rewound now, but the gauges and primary length, as well as wire weight is all still the same.

Rich

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #404 on: June 18, 2007, 07:57:01 PM »
Thanks Rich...got those.

Inductance is the most important measurement I need however, and failing that, I can calculate approximate inductance from the coil dimensions I mentioned.

Darren