Hi Rich,Dave, everyone


I like to say some things about the battle that's going on here the last few days between believers and non-believers of the ECD.
Personally I think I'm one of the few that can actually see both viewpoints.

If we look at Jason's setup and the odd readings on the PS meters, we can clearly say that we don't know what the power consumption from the PS is.....
If one says it goes up to 60volts at 3 amps that doesn't mean anyhting. At the max that would put out 180 watts as Dave suggests, but then again we don't know if it did or not!!
We also know that digital meters are not reliable at higher frequencies.....

So, I would say that neither camp, at the moment, has any real idea of what the consumed power is.....
My suggestion is to use a Power (Watt) meter in the wall socket that feeds the PS. That way we can at least see how much power is drawn from the grid. If that is lower than the 40 watts of the bulb...congratulations!
If it's more than 40 watts it doesn't mean there isn't any conversions from an unknown source taking place.....it might just be that the process isn't efficient. In this case we either need to reduce input power below 40 watts OR increase output power. (open the gate further).

At this point the setup has some signs of possible FE but it's too early to say either way.
I guess when Jason can do another batch of tests after the weekend we know alot more.....

regards

Robert  

does anyone have a kill-a-watt meter like this?

that would be a great test.

The other option is to use use multimeters on the input side of the PS to determine consumed grid power (far away from the ecd/tpu)

Robert

Fine, I'll bring it up next meeting, if I attend.

I think I may be taking a break to slow down a bit. I'm getting way too bugged up, over stuff that should not bother me. I'm aware of this, and working on it. Perhaps a yoga class or TM is in order. Maybe if I figure out how to fit the universe in my belly button, this all won't seem like a big deal to me.

I just wish the people giving the suggestions (very good ones mostly), would help out.

Some of you guys are capable of testing faster than it takes you to post your test request. And if you have the equipment, and we dont, then we just have to spend more money to do it.

That's a good idea though ZPE. Perhaps someone in the beginning phase of a TPU build can do that one, before they slip thier controls on the ring.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I need a break.

Sorry for offending anyone if I have.

@dutchy, even better.

Rich

First things first, slow down guys, and remove the mobius loop! If the device still puts out the same power, then this speaks for itself. That is the most obvious thing to change if you want to prove the device does what you believe it does. It has been brought to your attention, take the 30 seconds required, and try it.

Darren

Darren,

I agree that is a valid test, although Otto has already replied to this by saying it doesn't work at all without the mobius loop....

Robert

Ok lets test this tonight. I want to first add the second frequency and log what is going on. Then lets take some of it apart. Strefan has set up a location that he feels may stream better so we can try the webcam there.

Cam

Great Cam,

Where can we see? 

Robert

has anyone considered running this on an electronic circuit simulator.

@Dave

SM said the TPU does not work inside a shield!  Presumably this is because it is tapping/converting energy from outside the device which now gets blocked by the shield.

I was NOT using the shield, the tpu was in open air.
Plus it's not me saying it's OU Lets play with it.

Everyone; can we please sit back and relax, have a beer or a smoke and give me time to test all the suggestions. I want to broadcast the testing live but I am trying to find the best FREE way to do it. Then everyone can see what I see.

For those following I am using no on grid stuff. Last test I used a battery and 555 timer driving a mosfet driver driving a mosfet <Same as Jason> with 1 frequency. I can get the bulb to glow at 1.5 amps using 25% duty min. If you happened to see the cam you might have caught the scope across the battery. Anyone want to be a camera man?

The only other thing I might be able to do is set the software for the cam to use a webpage, frame rate may be slow but not as slow as when everyone bogs down the server.

I?ll post again at 3:30 pm mountain time to the solution.

Cam

Hey No Problem Rich. I am sure with the slow frame rate you might have missed it when I showed the tpu. I will try to tweak this software and perhaps try the suggested site.
   
Cam