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Mannix

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2007, 04:17:30 PM »
Otto,

Yes Im almost certain that it is the case as well.

We are all at the gate, thanks to many but Otto is top of the class.

Im looking foward to refinement that will make this process safe happening here.
Please Can I ask that nobody goes to media about this.

It will happen but the later the better.

Nobody will believe you...familiar?

STEPHAN. WHO GETS THE PRIZE?

I recomend either Steven or Otto 

Just being cheeky............




Good times...be very very careful...all

Lindsay

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2007, 04:18:27 PM »
Otto,

Im looking foward to refinement that will make this process safe happening here.
Please Can I ask that nobody goes to media about this.


the best way to keep it free is for the club to patent it and then never enforce or exercize any patent rights.

a patent only gives one the right to sue for infringement, you can state on a website to the public that no suits will be filed for infringement for private use or something to that effect.   

That and of course posting it to the world at large.

i agree keep it free or at least keep it away from the corporations.

That and we ALL know it was a group effort here on this forum with otto being the leader of the pack so if there is an unscrupulous corporation who tries to undermine you guys work i am sure we can all get together to file a class action suit to prevent any corporation from patenting it privately.

just thinking out loud.
« Last Edit: June 12, 2007, 04:46:22 PM by kokomoj0 »

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2007, 04:22:51 PM »
Hello all,

@Robby,

a looooong time ago I posted that the 2 magnets are closing the contacts of reed relays. The TPU is a self runner. This means that its always working. Now imagine you have to make somewhere a demonstration and have to bring the TPU with you. Its raining for example.....the TPU is working......

Maybe Im totally wrong, we all will see in the future.

Otto

Hey guys way to go!  congratulations on your progress on this project!

One thing that would really convince me it is producing useable power is if you put a bridge rectifier on the output with smoothing filter caps and a known load to get an absolute "true" RMS reading of the output with both a scope and meter and this would be especially convincing if no power were connected to it :)    By testing it this way it rules out any integration scepticisms.

wtg guys!

« Last Edit: June 12, 2007, 04:46:45 PM by kokomoj0 »

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #33 on: June 12, 2007, 04:47:19 PM »
Hello all,

@Kokomoj0

Heeeeej, you missed something!!!! Its already done by our master!!!!!

Otto

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #34 on: June 12, 2007, 04:48:19 PM »
The initial docomunt specifies that this is not patentable and that is open source. This public excution can guarantee that. Besides, let them stop us. This technology is the most dangerous on the planet while at the same time the most advantegious for the good of mankind. What are they goning to do? close down all Radio shacks? LOL

--giantkiller.

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #35 on: June 12, 2007, 04:53:03 PM »
I'm sure you can release it under some GPL license or something.  Even if they do patent it, it won't do much good seeing as the directions to make one are right here.  :D

Have a great day.

kokomoj0

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2007, 04:57:21 PM »
Hello all,

@Kokomoj0

Heeeeej, you missed something!!!! Its already done by our master!!!!!

Otto

i do hope you filter that otto and do a true rms test on it for us.  that is if you need an input source rectify and filter it as well as the output.  Filtered DC is the god of measurements.

as you all know, marks failed to convince me it really does what he claims.   passing a very simple true rms test would inspire me to wind one frankly.

kokomoj0

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #37 on: June 12, 2007, 04:58:38 PM »
The initial docomunt specifies that this is not patentable and that is open source. This public excution can guarantee that. Besides, let them stop us. This technology is the most dangerous on the planet while at the same time the most advantegious for the good of mankind. What are they goning to do? close down all Radio shacks? LOL

--giantkiller.

thats the kool thing about knowledge!

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #38 on: June 12, 2007, 05:08:33 PM »
Hi Roberto,
The first bit of the spec. is fine.
The freq. increments are 0.1Hz minimum but I can default to 1Hz steps.
The frequencies are all asynchronous, I cannot see how you can sync them.
Maybe fine tuning the phase perhaps.
What we can do is use one freq. gen and 3 high speed decade counters to do a divide by 1 to 10.
I am not sure if its possible to synchronise 2 different frequencies even driven from the same master clock.  The frequency is a fraction of master clock and there is a phase shift option.
I may need to ask Analog devices by email if this is possible.

Regards
Rob



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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #39 on: June 12, 2007, 05:18:35 PM »
Hi.

Well done to all !

Giantkiller - Mystified re comments about danger - is there a link I can read up on that? Is it just the RF / em radiation you mean - or something else?

Q: does this have hallmarks of Steve Marks device?

1. stops if turned over (= will not start or runs poorly if on edge vertical)
2. the ring material gets hot

If these are both so - here is an interesting test. Put a plate of water say 100cm or so, vertically below the flat ring e.g. on floor. Have a thermometer in it. If the ring is operated for a long period, does the water temp rise? Now repeat with new water but placed horizontally the same distance to the side.

My guess -

a) nothing happens OR
b) the water below gets warmer and the water to one side does not.

(I am fishing to see if gravity may be involved as a power source, although this is not a definitive expt.)

Sorry if my comments make little sense - been looking elsewhere of late and not following every thread here.

steve

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #40 on: June 12, 2007, 05:20:26 PM »
I'm eager to start winding once I see some confirmation of the initial results with RMS input current readings taken along the lines already suggested using filters and a 12V battery as the power source.  

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #41 on: June 12, 2007, 05:28:24 PM »
Hi Rob,

I see your point. There is as always at least a nice way around. For the synchronous operation just use DDS SW to preset correctly a programmable hardware synchronous counter. You could provide actually for the preset of 3 synchronous counter on the board. So clocking the 3 counters with the same master clock trough an enable signal we get just what we want.

What do you think about (of course there are many similar options...).

Roberto

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #42 on: June 12, 2007, 05:46:13 PM »
(http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=712.0;attach=9562;image)

Marco, quite a nice Avator you have drawn ! ;)
Looks very nice !

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #43 on: June 12, 2007, 05:51:42 PM »
The frequencies are all asynchronous, I cannot see how you can sync them.
Maybe fine tuning the phase perhaps.
If you are using AD9833 (10pin) DDS then you can synchronize multiple chips with this procedure:
1. stop the common clock to all DDS
2. program individual DDS to obtain required waveform, phase and frequency
3. send soft reset command to all DDS
4. enable the clock

Other DDS chips (ie. 18pin AD9834) have Reset pin that can be used for synchronization.

Peter

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #44 on: June 12, 2007, 06:22:57 PM »
@kokomoj0

Otto and all of us on this Forum wants this to be in the public domain and formally publishing this document and 'records' of these on-line interactions together constitute "prior art" per the date of public records being kept. There is no need to even go any further.

Now, UEC or whichever SM assigned his invention to (if there was such a patent) had one year from the first public disclosure (1997?) to submit the invention to the patent office, after the one year period, his own invention constitutes prior art to himself and becomes public domain.

Also, even today, unless SM or UEC publicly disclosed their 'invention', we will never know if their "claims" are being thread upon by Otto's contraption of double mobius arrangements, etc. A patent is only as good as what is in the claims.

Anyway, welcome to the 'believers- club'! Membership is free. The only other requirement is to free your mind of previously conceived or previously taught orthodox ideas of how things can and must be done!

Peace

chrisC