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hartiberlin

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2007, 12:55:09 PM »
Hi Jason,
what also might help is this, so your power supply does not get jammed by the RF:


PS_output_positive:-->ampmeter----->lowpass coil L----->|-------> input toTPU-ECD
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groundline__________________________________________|________>ground input to TPU-ECD


Please try it this way.
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.





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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2007, 01:07:30 PM »
HI Stefan,

Thanks for the suggestions. I will definitely set that up when I have time. For now. Here's a screen shot of the scope when it was running in the video. There was definitely a lot of hash...

God Bless,
Jason O

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2007, 01:12:47 PM »
Thanks Jason for the scopeshot,
where is the groundline in this scopeshot ?
At the bottom ?

Is there just coming out positive voltage ?
No negative going voltages ?

P.S. You might want to use at least 3 lowpassfilters in series before
going into the TPU, so your lowpass frequency is around 0.1 Hz or less,
so you have a stable amp and voltage reading at the power supply.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2007, 01:26:23 PM »
Rainer has posted a measurement proposal in the German language thread,
where you might still add the lowpassfilter I posted above.

Here is his GIF pic schematic.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1848.msg34866.html#msg34866

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2007, 01:44:57 PM »
@Jason

I wonder how your TPU-ECD would respond to a bank of AA LiMH rechargable batteries configured for 12VDC output. It seems as the Mobius collector coil begins to pump energy that it will eventually begin throwing power back into the batteries and keep them recharged.

If you can run a 40W light bulb to full brightness for a little while with just a few AA batteries in the setup, then that would be quite impressive.

You would then possibly be at the door step to a free-running device.

Regards,
Robby

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2007, 02:09:39 PM »
@Jason,
Great results for 2 frequencies - you just need to prove your input power.

When I did my mosfet tests last night at around 1MHz I also noticed voltage fluctuations on the PSU, except I think mine went down, but I cannot be sure.
I think Stefan is correct and you need to totally isolate the PSU using inductors and capacitors from the TPU.
My PSU is rated 30V at 2.5A but can go to 3A and 33V, this is the very first test for the PSU I did - full load 33V x 3A = 100W.

Another thing you could do is to add another lamp in parrallel.

@Robby,
You read my mind, some AA size Nickle-metal-hydride batteries, 9-10 off should be OK for 0.5A at 1.2V each.


Bypass capacitors:
See page 6 for the recommended capacitors for high frequency gate drive.
http://www.ixysrf.com/pdf/driver_ICs/DEIC420.pdf
0.01uF x 8
0.47uF x 4
4.7uF x 4

Regards
Rob

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« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2007, 02:15:06 PM »
Hi Jason, hi All,

One thing to be careful about is that either RF or X-Energy gets into your power supply and causes the pass transistor to fully conduct.  This could easily cause the output voltage to climb to 40+ Volts, even though the regulation circuit with its potentiometer adjust can never reach this high.

I strongly suggest using a battery to replace the power supply.  At the ends of the battery leads where they reach your circuitry, you should have at least three parallel C's, an Electrolytic, and two disc ceramics each a different value, like 1nF and 100nF.

Regards, Earl

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2007, 02:27:57 PM »
Hi Jason,

Wow...... :o

Im next....    :P





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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2007, 03:04:11 PM »
Hi All,

@ Jason

I understand the point of using LC filters to choke/shunt away RF back surges that would "frak" with your power supply.

I may be in the minority here on my next point...

For the test run on the ECD using a bank of AA rechargeable batteries to replace the PS, I would not want any LC filters in the circuit that would block and shunt away the power pump coming back from the Mobius collector. I would want the Mobius to attenuate I-flow and eventually reverse flow power back into the batteries to recharge them as the Mobius is powering the load (40W light bulb). The batteries are just chemical capacitors used to kick start the device. After the magnetic turbine effect is up to speed and pumping energy from the vacuum, the batteries may then be irrelevant.

If you can demonstrate a 40W light bulb operating for say... maybe 10 minutes... at full brightness and the AA batteries all stay at full charge, then you will have one heck of a demonstration to cheer about.

Eventually a setup can be made where the battery bank is replaced by a bank of capacitors that are kick started by a strong magnet across a coil.

See the video about anomalous continuous charging of a capacitor by a magnet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iGEsVaIftk

Robby

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2007, 03:15:18 PM »
Jason,

Thank you and Great Job!  The video's were awesome and will one day be classics for the TPU history.

I look forward to the .pdf and further experimentation.

Historic events are made up of historic people, and we have such a group of us assembled together, for such a time as this...!

Thank you for the safety information about the screening.  We will be using that technique now before starting my own experiments.

Psalm 150:6     ;)
Bruce 

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Stupid Bulls*it
« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2007, 03:18:25 PM »
I have never seen in my 40+ Engineering years such absolute garbage.
This is as low as you can go on the IQ scale.
This idea should win the Nobel prize for STUPIDITY!
Regards, Earl
See the video about anomalous continuous charging of a capacitor by a magnet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iGEsVaIftk
Robby

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Only referring to You Tube video with capacitor charging
« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2007, 03:21:37 PM »
Just to make sure there is no confusion, I am not refering to Jason's video, but to the magnet and mV capacitor charging.
Earl

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2007, 03:33:23 PM »
Earl,

Go look at the SM video's of the TPU. SM started them by placing magnets on his device. Our goal is to replicate SM's deivice, self contained, free-running with no harmful RF emissions and no need for shields.

For this research to progress, you may have to let go of your old ideas taught to you by the orthodox high priests of electromagnetic dogma. The world is not flat and the sun does not orbit the earth.

Just pay attention to the SM videos and think about what could possibly be the reason why a magnet placed on the unit by SM would make it start?

I take no offense at your cries about "stupidity". This research fundamentally demands a questioning attitude of all our postulates and theorems about electromagnetic phenomena.

The orthodox have always cried heresy against pioneers and their new ideas that forced paradigm change.

Robby

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2007, 03:40:23 PM »
@Rob,

please find attached preliminary DDS control Requirements
Roberto

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2007, 03:42:41 PM »
Hello all,

@Robby,

a looooong time ago I posted that the 2 magnets are closing the contacts of reed relays. The TPU is a self runner. This means that its always working. Now imagine you have to make somewhere a demonstration and have to bring the TPU with you. Its raining for example.....the TPU is working......

Maybe Im totally wrong, we all will see in the future.

Otto