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mrd10

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Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« on: June 12, 2007, 11:12:47 AM »
Hi All,

Jasons too excited it's late, 5 in the morning and what weve witnessed is amazing.
There were 7 of us conferenced call tonight, This was including Roberto, who worked very closely with Otto.
This is not a joke , The power is real.
The globe you'll see light up bright when we mixed 2 frequencies only, we saw power supply voltage go back into the power supply, in other words the power supply was reading 44volts now and the current draw fell down to 300mA's, The globe is a 110volt, 40 watt globe.

Im too ecstatic myself, seeing this thing work, just no words to describe it.
Jason will be posting soon.

I've attached Picture of Jasons TPU, there's not much in the construction as you can see.

kind Rgds,

Dom


Edit from admin: the PDF file documentation of Otto?s and Roberto?s TPU-ECD experiments
can be found here:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2383.0;attach=9524

Here's a short movie done by Jason and 2 pics of the TPU:-
« Last Edit: June 14, 2007, 03:04:19 PM by mrd10 »

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2007, 11:18:15 AM »
Hello Everyone,

I have been up all night long working on this TPU replication and I finally got some positive results!

Listen. YOU NEED TO FOLLOW OTTO's DIAGRAM AND REPLICATE THIS THING!!! IT WORKS!!

I was in a big conference call with Roberto, Rosphere, GK, Moab, Cavetronics, Gn0stik, mrd10, and C0mster. We were playing with a single frequency sweeping from about 1 kHz up to 500 kHz. What we did was monitor the voltage output on the collector across a clear, 40W 110V light bulb. Once we got in the 80 kHz frequency range, we began to see the filament on the bulb glow red.

As I we continued the frequency sweep, the bulb would glow brighter and dimmer as we hit various "sweet spots." Everyone watched the waveforms and brightness of the bulb on my webcam; Cavetronics took screen shots as we found the nodes, and Moab took the input voltage, current, and frequency measurements down as we went along.

After tweaking the first frequency, we found that 176.6 kHz made the bulb glow the brightest.

Keep in mind that I HAD TO SHIELD THE COIL while testing! When I first turned on the coil Without The Shield, it threw off lots of RF energy all over my room, bugged up my USB cables which turned off my camera and made my keyboard and mouse stop working! I also could FEEL the effects of the RF discharges. It was the same feelings that Giantkiller posted earlier about his GK4. Please make sure you protect yourself when you experiment, this is, by far, not a toy!

Anyway, to continue, We decided to choose 80 kHz for the second frequency because we had found a good sweet spot there in the early test. The idea was to pick the three frequencies such that they fell on the train of sweet spots that we found.

That was a big mistake.....

When I turned on both frequencies at the same time, I got this GIANT flash as the bulb grew very bright! It also shot out a large (what felt like) shock wave! Whats even better is that I have it all on video!!

You can find it attached in mrd10's post along with some photos of my desk setup on this post (with the screen shield).

More to come in a few more minutes...

God Bless,
Jason O
« Last Edit: June 12, 2007, 11:50:07 AM by hartiberlin »

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2007, 11:25:33 AM »
Jason & all:

Looks like you're the mad professor in the 'Back to the future movie!'. All those lightning flashes and eerie RF! Must be exciting.

btw, can you tell us mortals what is that shiled you showed in the photo? Looks like window screen to me?

Good job and post some more!

chrisC
« Last Edit: June 12, 2007, 11:50:26 AM by hartiberlin »

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2007, 11:39:57 AM »
Wow Jason very nice !
I wish I had seen it too on Sykpe !

How many people can participate on Skype ?

Can Sykpe support many simultaneous video webcam feeds,
so you can see all yourself each other ?

Jason,
I hope you can post more videos please !;)
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2007, 11:57:17 AM »
Hi Jason,
what  about was the input power to your device,
when you hit the right frequencies and the bulb lighted up this bright ?

Did you use a power supply or a 12 Volts battery for the input power ?

Rainer on the German thread suggested to use a 12 Volt Battery, so
that the RF from the device will not jam the power supply and more exact measurements
could be taken to determine the input power.

I am very glad you have now stumbled onto the right effects.

Keep on going.

Regards, Stefan.
« Last Edit: June 12, 2007, 12:43:30 PM by hartiberlin »

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2007, 11:56:45 AM »
Hello all,

@Roberto

exact the same feeling.

Otto

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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2007, 11:57:33 AM »
Hello again,

I just want to report something else strange here. When taking the power input measurements, we did not take into account the fact that the TPU was feeding power back into my power supply!

The power supply I am using is capable of outputting 30VDC at 6A MAX. For all of my tests, I had it set on 12V according to the PDF file posted by Otto and Roberto. When I hit the sweet spots, the voltage would rise up as far as 20V with an average current draw of about 800 mA. I will be releasing a PDF file soon showing all of the displayed power output values read off the PS display along with the scope shots. We just need to sort through all the notes and photos.

I do have one more video to share with you all which I think you will love. After 'primimg' my TPU with the the two frequencies mentioned in my last post, I was able to light the 40W bulb to its Full Brightness off the the TPU ONLY on the 176.6 kHz frequency alone! It was as if the TPU had some kind of memory and kept lighting up consistently the bulb!

After achieving this, my next goal was to quantify the input and output power. After looking at the power supply, I realized right away that the input voltage and current it was showing me was wrong! It was telling me that I was supplying 42VDC at over 7A into the coil!!! My PS doesn't even put out that much power! So to double check the display, I connected an analog voltage meter across the power supply inputs and added a digital ammeter in series with the positive lead coming from the power supply to quantify the input power.

When I reran the test, I found that the voltage on the voltmeter read 31VDC and the current started off at about 1.5A and started dropping the longer the light bulb stayed on! But yet the bulb's brightness stayed the same!

You will be able to see all of this clearly in the demonstration video. mrd10 uploaded it to Google Video for your viewing pleasure.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1589323258906115584

We hope to more formally document these experiments and will post a PDF soon. As for me, it is past 6:00AM here and I haven't even been to sleep yet so I'm going to crash for now. We will post more information as it is compiled.

@bob.rennips: I used mic4427BC chips for my MOSFET drivers along with the IRF840 MOSFETs. They work great and gave me an average rise time of 43ns.

God Bless,
Jason O

« Last Edit: June 12, 2007, 12:21:31 PM by Jdo300 »

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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2007, 12:11:57 PM »
Hi Jason!

I just watched that video and when the full brightness came on it made me jump backwards in my chair.  Whats amazing is that it's dim with one freq, and dim with just the other, but mix them and bam!  And thats with only two, not with the 3rd!  Holy Shit!  I know its hard to say when the room is dark and a bright light comes on, the camera adjusts and the light can look much brigther, but we couldnt even see the fillament anymore, so...

However, Dom said that the bulb was a 40 watt 110v and the power supply was saying 44v 300mA.

So at max brightness, which the bulb probably wasn't, the bulb draws 363mA.

With 44v and 300mA thats 13.2 watts from the power supply and I dont suppose the bulb was fully on, but it did look bright!  Waiting for your full measurements!  Can't wait to know more.


Regards,

Dave.

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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2007, 12:11:18 PM »
Hello All,

The Google video link that was posted didn't contain the whole thing, I just fixed it now: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1589323258906115584

God Bless,
Jason O

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2007, 12:18:57 PM »
Jason and all,

How exciting!

Interesting in that my very first post back in April '06,  I figured a freq around 180khz would be used.
Partial quote:


 "Here is my take on what Steven Mark has kindly decided to give of his time.  Of course I am just a        musician, I could be way off target?

The heart of the generator is three coils next to each other.  The primary coil is part of a tank circuit that is tuned to oscillate around 180,000 hertz.  This is the supposedly natural frequency of magnetism as per Coler device or MRA, if my memory serves me right?"


Guess the old musician still has some intuition left.  Hopefully I can watch the progress from China.  I leave Aug 22.

Otto and Roberto and All
Job well done and just the beginning!

Tishatang



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« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2007, 12:31:15 PM »
Thanks Jason,

Looks like we posted at the same moment, so please ignore my comments.

Going to watch the other video now!


Great work!


Regards,

Dave.

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« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2007, 12:34:50 PM »
Jason,
great video documentation !
Many thanks for this !

Hmm, it seems the RF pulses jams your power supply.

Do you also have an anolog ampmeter ?

Please try to get one, as you can not be sure, if the current
is really this low..
As the RF could also jam your digital ampmeter right now
you could just put a 100 nF cap directly across the input plugs at the digital
ampmeter, so the RF will not jam it...and only the DC current will
be measured...

Also it would be much better to try to use a 12 Volt battery in parallel with some
electrolyte capacitors and foil capacitors as the power source and use a lowpassfilter
before going into the TPU, so you can measure input power directly at the battery before the low pass filter,
where you still have a steady DC current.

Regards, Stefan.

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« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2007, 12:37:33 PM »
Jason,

You could try placing the power supply outside the sheild and just have the TPU inside to see if that helps give the same readings on the suppy as on your meters.

Anyway, I am sure you have much to do and I eagerly await more readings later!


Dave.

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« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2007, 12:40:40 PM »
@Jacob,

I have had time only now to read your post.

I've no words: T H A N K

and best luck to the many guys who are now succesfully replicating ECD.

SORRY TO SAY but remember: ECD IS REALLY DANGEROUS...never forget it

Sincerely

Roberto

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« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2007, 12:46:28 PM »
Hi Jason,
you might link from your google video directly to this thread over here,

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2535.0.html

so people on google will find it more quickly,
but I also linked it now directly on the homepage now under
Newsflash:

Many thanks again for your hard work and your gorgeous results.

Regards, Stefan.