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Qwert

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #1740 on: February 25, 2010, 12:41:05 AM »
Practical Transformer Handbook by Irving Gottlieb. I find this book extremally useful for those interesting in the TPU.:

http://www.filestube.com/165fe8b9c16158fc03ea,g/Practical-Transformer-Handbook.html

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #1741 on: February 25, 2010, 01:42:17 AM »
@GK

  Those little white things in all of sm's designs I believe are from a klystron.  BEP kinda confirmed this awhile back when he mentioned that when the unit (a unit he saw that incorporated the thingies) was turned on air force pilots had to fly by the seat of their pants because of the effects of the unit on electronics and magnetics aboard the transmitting aircraft.  The aircraft born klystrons were used both for detection and jamming purposes.  For those not aware of what a Klystron is it is basically a television set but instead of fucusing the ray from the electron gun a number of resonant tanks are mounted along the length of the tube.  The tanks take the steady stream of accelerated electrons emitted from the cathode and slow some electrons down and speed some up.  The ray now takes on a more digital type flow.  Many stages of resonant cavities are along the length of the tube so at the final transmitting lc cavity very short length highly charged bundles of electrons excite the final.  A waveguide is introduced in this final stage to guide the generated wave to appear on the radar antennae.  The electron beam or ray still has plenty of power after passing the final cavities and in the older units needed to be absorbed.  Nowadays they recycle the electron beam for less energy intensive operation of the tubes.  The older units collected the pulsed beam energy and converted it in the "boiler" to heat and dumped it through a liquid radiator.  Perhaps BEP will give us an idea as to what part of the radar system he found the white thingies used in. They do appear to have a waveguide going into the core so perhaps they were from a final or they could have come from a cyclotron instead of a klystron. Cyclotron acts the same way but the electron bunches form spokes on a whirring electron cloud that excite lc cavities in the anode itself which is placed about the whirring electron cloud.  The magnets used in a cyclotron are there to ensure that the cathode emitted electrons "move" or drift in a predetermined pattern so as to form the spinning spoked electron cloud.  Whereas the Klystron produced a wavy electron spindle. 

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #1742 on: February 25, 2010, 10:21:05 PM »
Hi Ramset no I am not saying that; I just want to tell people that we should share with all. That what makes us happy if one be more out of our individual mind box of thinking.
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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #1743 on: February 25, 2010, 10:54:17 PM »
Guruji
Quote:
Hi Ramset no I am not saying that; I just want to tell people that we should share with all. That what makes us happy if one be more out of our individual mind box of thinking.
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Thank you for clarifying .
GK is quite far from the "Box"[the further the better]

Chet

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #1744 on: February 26, 2010, 12:19:23 AM »
One can never return... 8)

And I would not want it any other way. ;)

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #1745 on: February 27, 2010, 06:09:41 PM »
@sparks

My post about the small toroid being identical to devices used in flights during the cold war was a comparison to betatrons not klystrons. Klystrons were used but that was during conventional electronic warfare. The items I mentioned are strictly an offensive weapon. Klystrons are just whopping powerful tubes, great for jamming. They won't kill landline commo or wipe out circuits at least not normally.

Never heard of a klystron used for receiving but it might work.

I believe the small toroid is nothing more than a small TPU used to provide the right fields to the larger portions.

Macmep_L

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #1746 on: February 27, 2010, 09:05:43 PM »
Hello.

That is the first draw of ПВА, all story here:
http://www.001-lab.com/001lab/index.php?topic=160.msg5448#msg5448

Then... come up second draw, but not from this guy ;-))))
He says so much snow and he can't open garage door for make pictures that device, but before
he is very often used it like battery charger and mig welder! Not stick, like mig welder! ;-))

 



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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #1747 on: February 27, 2010, 11:24:41 PM »
You're bang on, Sir! Notice how the leads going into the center are parallel with the outer small awg windings! This is part of the feedback that insures the triggering. 8)

@sparks

My post about the small toroid being identical to devices used in flights during the cold war was a comparison to betatrons not klystrons. Klystrons were used but that was during conventional electronic warfare. The items I mentioned are strictly an offensive weapon. Klystrons are just whopping powerful tubes, great for jamming. They won't kill landline commo or wipe out circuits at least not normally.

Never heard of a klystron used for receiving but it might work.

I believe the small toroid is nothing more than a small TPU used to provide the right fields to the larger portions.

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #1748 on: February 28, 2010, 01:11:18 AM »
  @BEP

     Tube filaments suffer from a lack of free electrons.  The workforce needed to supply free electrons is well known.  A copper conductor does not suffer from a lack of free electrons they are right there on the skin of the conductor.  Any photon exchanges with the electron cloud are converted to electron acceleration whereas in most mass the photon is absorbed exciting the electron into the free state and reemitted when the electron falls back into the bound state.  The photon is just absorbed and readmitted by the electron orbital jump.  When a free electron absorbs a photon it is accelerated.  The acceleration emits photons.  If these photons are captured and recycled the current or amount of electrons accelerated is more efficient.  If the resonant cavities are receiving and recycling photons then the current should build in the core of the accelerator.  The bandwith is a problem because as the current grows in speed different frequency photons are emitted.  So if you are tuned in on a gigahertz scource and the core current velocity increases the resonant cavities are unable to capture the emitted photons.  This is a good thing as far as safety is concerned.  If the cavities are calculated so as to capture hgher frequency photons as the current is accelerated then there is more efficiency involved.  Especially if these cavities are also receiving harmonics of the fundamental vibration.  By the time you get to stages down the current pipe things are moving right along.  The big accelerators suffer from not collecting the electron photon transmissions in the core.  They just keep pumping and pumping and leaking and leaking.

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #1749 on: February 28, 2010, 06:34:10 PM »
Awesome!! 

Has anyone tried replicating the Chauncy Britten "Atmospheric Electrical Generator"  ?

http://www.rexresearch.com/feg/britten.htm

Most interested in devices which do not have any moving parts: Tesla Magnifying Transmitter, Peter Markovich's ATREE, Lester Hindershot Reciprocative Oscillating Coils, etc...

Thank you,

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #1750 on: February 28, 2010, 07:54:46 PM »
Awesome!! 

Has anyone tried replicating the Chauncy Britten "Atmospheric Electrical Generator"  ?

http://www.rexresearch.com/feg/britten.htm

Most interested in devices which do not have any moving parts: Tesla Magnifying Transmitter, Peter Markovich's ATREE, Lester Hindershot Reciprocative Oscillating Coils, etc...

Thank you,

electric777

Thanks. If you do a search on this site you should find multiple threads for each one of those.

@sparks

I'm korn-fused. Let me know what you have for medications so I can take some and catch up with your thoughts  :D
You left me in your dust again!


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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #1751 on: March 01, 2010, 12:15:45 AM »
@ Macmep

Is that a working TPU unit ?

Sorry I'm not able to understand russian language.


sincerely

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #1752 on: March 01, 2010, 05:48:16 AM »
@ Macmep

Is that a working TPU unit ?

Sorry I'm not able to understand russian language.


sincerely

That is not TPU, just 3-F generator, but like says that guy it is generating 10 minutes after power OF.
But when we ask him to make a pic, he says, he can't because high level snow lock his garage door :) it seems like fraud. :)
He wrote an absolutely different information at different forums.
In the three-phase generator on pic beloy, if you make the imposition of the phases, it is possible to get DC, but I don't saw that someone did it successfully. This is one of such schemes, but this is not the scheme of TPU.

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Re: Successful TPU-ECD replication !
« Reply #1754 on: March 01, 2010, 04:41:30 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opb0LvX7jZY&feature=player_embedded

Two things:
The ring configuration is in the vein of the ECD and the scope shot shows major promise. The ringing shows up symmetrically in the on time. But the off time has a higher peak to peak and faster oscillations. This is most important! The self oscillation start is in the off time. His scope shots show the same pattern I started with. The next test is to reduce the on time or change the on time to 25%. His signals are 75%/25%. You want the off time oscillations to overlap the back end of the on time ringing. In other words 'The two sets of waves will overlap'. ;) Then you see the consecutive spikes building. We push the swing at the correct time...
The constant DC at the back end of the on time stabilizes the polarity of the electron torque. All is quiet. This stops the oscillatory function. Then the off transistion has to start up again only to lose any reverberation that might happen. The reverb or echo is necessary to start an acoustic or wave tidal imposition. This whole process uses the established wave content or standing wave as a bias or stored energy. That is the constant resource that resonance supplies.

Here is what I have seen: The coil produces intense noise in the off time. If the duty cycle is lowered the next check is to see where the off time oscillatory function stops along the off time window. If it stops short of the impending on time occurance then 2 things have to occur. Change the input frequency or the coil winding/configuration. Sm stated he 'snipped wires'. This can happen in alot of ways and do alot of things.

Now the unfortunate news:
This is the feedback process that is like a teseract in a house of mirrors. You change one parameter then go to another part of the configuration and adjust something else. It could be electrical or mechanical. That is the nature of the beast. I got to this point and the next step is to work the power output stage. In other words: Once you have established the echo you then need a target. Whoa!

Previous efforts have attempted to drive a coil to get power. This is basic transformer action and will not work. Doesn't matter if you use square, sine, or spark gaps. Just because you step on the gas doesn't mean you'll make it around the corner faster. >:(

http://amasci.com/freenrg/a-vectFE.html
http://amasci.com/tesla/tesceive.html
« Last Edit: March 01, 2010, 11:59:46 PM by giantkiller »