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Author Topic: I.T.E.R., a need ?  (Read 8283 times)

lancaIV

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I.T.E.R., a need ?
« on: June 08, 2007, 12:49:42 PM »
Visit rexresearch and inform yourself about " Oleg Gritskevitsch et al." :
1500 KW Generator !
1% input !
Functional !
500 US$/KW !
0,001 US$/KWH !
Clean process !

Is Russia not an I.T.E.R.-project partner ? Why ?

Sincerely
            de Lan?a

ashtweth_nihilisti

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Re: I.T.E.R., a need ?
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2007, 02:32:37 AM »
Is this the T.O.K.A.M.A.K -I.T.E.R ? if it is, is in direct competition with Focus -Fusion which was suppressed as a result.

http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/FocusFusion1.htm
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/FocusFusion.htm

helmut

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Re: I.T.E.R., a need ?
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2007, 01:10:29 PM »
Visit rexresearch and inform yourself about " Oleg Gritskevitsch et al." :
1500 KW Generator !
1% input !
Functional !
500 US$/KW !
0,001 US$/KWH !
Clean process !

Is Russia not an I.T.E.R.-project partner ? Why ?

Sincerely
            de Lan?a


Thanx for the advice.

Does someone replikate it?

Regards

helmut

lancaIV

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Re: I.T.E.R., a need ?
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2007, 05:34:57 PM »
No, it is not the T.O.K.A.M.A.K.-I.T.E.R .,
but a simpler construction for the same internal nuclear process !

Yes, there are several commercial groups, who want to realize the "-TRON" -Technology,
also  electronpowersystems.com   (eps), beside Focus-Fusion !

They,eps, write about the possibility  to bring down the KW- plant price to 60 US$,
this can be realized  if the Gritskevitsch numbers, 900 KG for 1500 KW, are real !
If the material is not special,like that of ordinary ic-gen-sets , then we can use the common
price of "home-depot"-ic-gen-sets, in Europe 10 Euros/KG ! 
Gritskevitsch wrote in his publication about low temperature-process  !

900 KG X 10 Euros= nice price: 9000 EUROS : 1500 KG = 6 EUROS/KW

What is the weight of a  800 hp/ 600 KW F1-motor( TOYOTA,RENAULT,HONDA,...) ?

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helmut

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Re: I.T.E.R., a need ?
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2007, 08:09:35 PM »
.................

900 KG X 10 Euros= nice price: 9000 EUROS : 1500 KG = 6 EUROS/KW

What is the weight of a  800 hp/ 600 KW F1-motor( TOYOTA,RENAULT,HONDA,...) ?

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Hab mal nachgeschlagen.....Zitat:

Das Motorgewicht

Motorgewicht und Verbrauch sind extrem wichtige Parameter f?r Formel 1 Fahrzeuge.

3 Liter Saugmotoren :

8 Zylinder   ~100-120 kg

10 Zylinder  ~100-130 kg

12 Zylinder  ~120-140 kg

Neben dem Gewicht des Motors ist seine Steifigkeit von entscheidender Bedeutung. Der Motor verbindet den Hinterwagen
bla bla bla...
gew?hlt, da? sich f?r den Zw?lfzylindermotor eine Leistung  von 530 kW ergibt. Nach der Theorie d?rfte dann der Zehnzylinder nur noch 497 kW, ein Achtzylinder gar nur noch 462 kW haben. Das entspr?che einer Minderleistung von 6 bzw. 13 Prozent. In der Praxis hingegen ist die Leistungs?berlegenheit des Zw?lfzylinders gegen?ber einem Zehnzylinder oder Achtzylinder sehr viel geringer.
S

helmut

lancaIV

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Re: I.T.E.R., a need ?
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2007, 01:57:35 AM »
Okay, the F1-numbers show us a similar power/weight relation :
130 KG for 450 KW  give us for 900 KG  */-  3150 KW and transformed with 50% efficiency
"around" 1500 KW, how long ?

When the selling price of this "Russian Federation" car
www.okaauto.com/history.htm   is 3000 Euros,then- related to the 675 KG car weight,
the 9000 Euros for the Gritsekevitsch HMD-generator will be the cost target !

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« Last Edit: October 06, 2007, 05:50:54 AM by lancaIV »