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Author Topic: Chas Campbell free power motor  (Read 668160 times)

Offline Pontifex

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Re: Chas Campbell free power motor
« Reply #990 on: December 12, 2007, 11:45:35 PM »
Hi Hans,
it sounds quite scholarly what you write about book burning but that is a pretty old hoax:

Several historians told varying accounts of a Muslim army led by Amr ibn al 'Aas sacking the city of Alexandria in 645, and that the commander asked the caliph Umar what to do with the famous library, and received the response "...if what is written in them agrees with the Koran, they are not required; if it disagrees, they are not desired. Destroy them therefore.", and thus burned the books to heat bathwater for the soldiers. However the legend has been dismissed by some as a later invention of Christian crusaders eager to justify the "barbarism" of Muslim armies.
While the first Western account of the supposed event was in Edward Pococke's 1663 century translation of History of the Dynasties, it was dismissed as a hoax or propaganda as early as 1713 by Fr. Eus?be Renaudot, and other later scholars agreed, including Alfred J. Butler.

OK, I admit being a little nitpicker....  ;)

Greetings, Pontifex




Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Chas Campbell free power motor
« Reply #991 on: December 13, 2007, 12:55:37 AM »
 older such libararies did not need ot be burned by attacking foreign rulers. They were full of papyurs, and the only source of light was an open flame.  Libraries burned them selves down on frequent occasion. it is thought that the library of alendria burned (at least partially) on several occasions.

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Re: Chas Campbell free power motor
« Reply #992 on: December 13, 2007, 03:36:40 AM »
All perpetual motion inventors are liars, except you and me, and some times i wonder about you.

Wake-up people, your to damn gullible; it took you six (6) months to identify this hoax; "and the people pushing it".

The Big Con: How to spot an Over-Unity Hoax

 o No Documentation describing claim
 o No Diagrams/Schematics/Circuits
 o No Replication
 o No Clear photos or videos of device
 o No Dismantling of device
 o No third party testing allowed
 o Inventor claims you need to build TEST Models before you can understand the technology.  See no Replication.
 o Inventor or his company claims they need MONEY to make it work.
 o Inventor doesn't personally use his newly found technology .. their always perfecting something better.  See no Replication.
 o Inventor claims "decades" of success and testing but doesn't have a working model.

Feel free to add to the list.

- Schpankme

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Re: Chas Campbell free power motor
« Reply #993 on: December 14, 2007, 12:33:17 AM »
Perpetual motion is indeed impossible according to the current and pervasive "Laws" of physics. It's also impossible if one has their head up their ass.
Nevertheless, the laws of Nature have never felt the compulsion to adhere to the flawed ideas of man. While man would love to think that he has conquered nature with his brilliant intellect, self flagellation and an honest look at reality are often two different things.
The most basic building block in this universe is nothing but perpetual motion. Where the atom draws it's energy from, so should we.

Offline shruggedatlas

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« Reply #994 on: December 14, 2007, 06:21:07 AM »
Perpetual motion is indeed impossible according to the current and pervasive "Laws" of physics. It's also impossible if one has their head up their ass.
Nevertheless, the laws of Nature have never felt the compulsion to adhere to the flawed ideas of man. While man would love to think that he has conquered nature with his brilliant intellect, self flagellation and an honest look at reality are often two different things.
The most basic building block in this universe is nothing but perpetual motion. Where the atom draws it's energy from, so should we.

More power to you for fighting the "man," but I am curious, which current laws of physics do you find flawed and upon what evidence?

Offline Eddy Currentz

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« Reply #995 on: December 14, 2007, 08:36:06 PM »
More power to you for fighting the "man," but I am curious, which current laws of physics do you find flawed and upon what evidence?
The main problem I have with contemporary physics is their adherence to the belief that there is no aether. This major oversight is the fundamental reason that most physicists can't bring themselves to think beyond Newton. The reason much of science is still stuck with 100 year old theory's is the same reason we still use 100 year old motor designs. Why would I want to follow modern physics where the possibilities are absolutely limited?
Aether dynamics are where all the energy is. It also makes a lot more sense to me.

Offline shruggedatlas

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« Reply #996 on: December 14, 2007, 11:02:52 PM »
The main problem I have with contemporary physics is their adherence to the belief that there is no aether. This major oversight is the fundamental reason that most physicists can't bring themselves to think beyond Newton.

I think it is more like modern science has seen no evidence of this aether you speak of and therefore has given it no serious consideration, much like zoologists give no serious consideration to unicorns and dragons.  If you were to create an experiment demonstrating the presence of this aether, I have no doubt modern science would listen.  How has this aether made its presence known to you?

Offline Eddy Currentz

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« Reply #997 on: December 15, 2007, 12:10:11 AM »
I think it is more like modern science has seen no evidence of this aether you speak of and therefore has given it no serious consideration, much like zoologists give no serious consideration to unicorns and dragons.  If you were to create an experiment demonstrating the presence of this aether, I have no doubt modern science would listen.  How has this aether made its presence known to you?
Modern science is suffering from lack of oxygen to the brain caused by their over stretched sphincters constricting around their necks.
I've studied enough physics to know that there has to be an energetic medium to provide energy and support to the material cosmos. The physical world has no explanation without it.
Here's a good quote:
"One early example of proof for the existence of the aether comes from Dr. Hal Puthoff, a respected scientist from Cambridge University. Puthoff frequently mentions experiments from the early 20th century that were designed to see if there was any energy in ?empty space,? conducted before quantum mechanics theory ever existed.

In order to test this idea in the laboratory, it was necessary to create an area that was completely free of air (a vacuum,) and lead-shielded from all known electromagnetic radiation fields by using what is known as a Faraday cage. This airless vacuum space was then cooled down to absolute zero or -273? C,the temperature where all matter should stop vibrating and thus produce no heat.

These experiments proved that instead of an absence of energy in the vacuum, there was a tremendous amount of it, from a completely non-electromagnetic source! Dr. Puthoff has often called this a "seething cauldron" of energy in very high magnitudes.

Since this energy could still be found at absolute zero, this force was dubbed "zero point energy" or ZPE, whereas the Russian scientists usually call it the ?physical vacuum? or PV. Recently, established mainstream physicists John Wheeler and Richard Feynman have calculated that:

The amount of zero-point energy in the space volume of a single light bulb is powerful enough to bring all the world?s oceans to the boiling point!

Clearly, we are not dealing with some weak, unseen force, but rather a source of almost impossibly grand power, which would have more than enough strength to sustain the existence of all of physical matter.

In the new view of science that is emerging from aether theory, all four of the basic force fields, whether gravity, electromagnetism, weak nuclear or strong nuclear force, are all simply different forms of the aether/ZPE.

To get another idea of how much ?free? energy really exists all around us, Professor M.T. Daniels found that the density of the gravitational energy near the surface of the earth is equal to 5.74 ? 1010 (t/m3). [Let us not forget that gravity would simply be another form of aether in this new model.]

Prof. Daniels? finding means that drawing a sizable 100 kilowatts of this ?free energy? power from the gravitational field dips into an extremely tiny 0.001% of the natural energy that is being produced in that area. (New Energy News, June 1994, p.4)

Research conducted by Nikola Tesla led to his statement in 1891 that the aether ?behaves as a fluid to solid bodies, and as a solid to light and heat,? and that under ?sufficiently high voltage and frequency,? it could be accessed ? which was his hint that free energy and anti-gravity technologies were possible."

http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=95&Itemid=36

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« Reply #998 on: December 15, 2007, 12:35:51 AM »
Is that the Dr Putoff mentioned here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_E._Puthoff

The one fooled by Uri Geller?
The one who believes in remote viewing?
The scientologist who believes in xenu and the writings of a science fiction author?

ERS


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Re: Chas Campbell free power motor
« Reply #999 on: December 15, 2007, 03:54:00 AM »
Gee...I guess my idea of self-powered flight by tugging upward on one's own butt could experience a resurgence of popularity here!  Maybe they have one of these suits that will fit Lawrence Tseung or Ashtweth!

Linda

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« Reply #1000 on: December 15, 2007, 04:31:23 AM »
Hi Eddy, i agree your statements. Aether or something like that is the one and only explanation for me too.

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« Reply #1001 on: December 15, 2007, 09:10:50 PM »
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"One early example of proof for the existence of the aether comes from Dr. Hal Puthoff, a respected scientist from Cambridge University. Puthoff frequently mentions experiments from the early 20th century that were designed to see if there was any energy in ?empty space,? conducted before quantum mechanics theory ever existed.

In order to test this idea in the laboratory, it was necessary to create an area that was completely free of air (a vacuum,) and lead-shielded from all known electromagnetic radiation fields by using what is known as a Faraday cage. This airless vacuum space was then cooled down to absolute zero or -273? C,the temperature where all matter should stop vibrating and thus produce no heat.

G'day all,

I would like to clarify something here.

1)  A total vacuum has never been achieved in a laboratory  ANYWHERE ! In fact Quantum mechanics states that a total vacuum cannot exist in nature.

2) Absolute zero has also NEVER been achieved and in fact is suspected to also not exist in the real world.

If Puthoff claims to have done this he is a liar.

The main reason why ether theory is ignored by modern science is that it is rather irrelevant whether the whole universe floats in some penultimate soup or not. Ether, by definition is unknowable. Since everything is made of it in various densities, according to ether theorists, it is as much part of the observer as it is of the observed. That makes it unobservable.

Also there is no value in an ether theory. Science has come a long way by ignoring it and carrying on with the observable and provable. By contrast ether theories have NEVER led to any discoveries of any kind! (this does not mean that monumental discoveries were not made by people who believed in the existence of an ether)

What it does mean though is that for purposes of research and development it is irrelevant whether the researcher believes in an ether or not.
It is a philosophical question rather than a scientific one.

Besides, contemporary science does not discount the fact that enormous amounts of energy are "lying around out there" so to speak. The question is how to tap into those energies safely without creating disaster (ever heard of an atom bomb?)

Hans von Lieven


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« Reply #1002 on: December 16, 2007, 01:46:47 AM »
Hans

--------    "2) Absolute zero has also NEVER been achieved and in fact is suspected to also not exist in the real world.  "


correction, there are circumstances in nature where this does occur, in fact one is comming up in our solar system,  in approx. May of 2012, NASA is already preparing to do a series of tests in absolute zero conditions.

the planetary allignment will create a magnetic anomaly, that with a unique shadow effect will create portions of space between the outer planets of our solar system, where no light will reach, and the temperature in these spots is supposed to get to absolute 0

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« Reply #1003 on: December 16, 2007, 01:49:25 AM »
Has yet to be proven though, doesn't it?

Hans

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« Reply #1004 on: December 16, 2007, 02:47:02 AM »
G'day P-Motion,

I think most people, when they look at a concept such as the Bessler wheel think that it is an easily understood system that does not need much study to figure it out. All simple stuff, nothing to it.

Until they try and their ideas come to nothing.

What they overlook that behind that apparent simplicity is a very complex interaction of forces that continually change as to torque, direction, relative centre of gravity and so forth and make behaviour of the whole difficult to predict.

As to your second question, how do weights acting totally independently from the wheel and its axis influence the rotation of the wheel if they are not linked in some way, in which case they no longer act independently.

I other words if they are an independent unit they are no good to you.

Hans von Lieven