Thanks to Asthweth we got more information from Chas Campbell. Thanks again! It took time and effort and money to got there, film, and speak to the inventor.

It is not Asthweth's device, its Chas. And if Chas is not willing at the moment to open source his only worth to investigate device, it's OK, because it's his decision. But then he is not altruistic at the moment. No gift to the world. Thats clear. He should say then: "Sorry, changed my mind, will NOT Open Source it HERE. Thanks for your attention."

The other stuff (Pool Billiard and Flywheel) are funny but will never work as overunity parts and misleading somewhere.

Yes, thats my opinion. Chas wants to figure out first, how we deal with him. And as every inventor, he don't wants to waste years of work. His children have an interest too in earning money with his real OU-Generator (at least when he dies, because hes old and maybe sick). So i asume he is very carefully choosing the people talking to about his secrets. The flywheel is part of his OU-device but only for energy storage. The snookers-ball-wheel are for investigation only and will never work. Maybe he beleaves it can work or not. Doesn't matter much to him, because he already has a working device (see the very first device from his promotion-CD: Big wheel plus flywheels). Not just for show, thats disinformation. I don't beleave that. For snookers-test the big wheel was changed. He covered the arms with something, so nobody can see whats behind, or he had to cover, for stability. So he has OU but don't wants to open source it NOW or HERE/THIS WAY.

@Ash

First of all thanks for all your participation in bringing us the Chas Wheel as well as the Chas Flywheel devices.

I know it was not easy and I am sure you felt like you had to walk across a mine-field at times due to some people here giving you a hard time.

Well nothing is ever lost, and I am sure what you have learned from this escapade will give you more food for thought.

Here are some main points as far as I am concerned.

1) A gravity wheel that size with that much weight to turn requires bowling balls, not billiard balls.

2) If Panacea does OU investigations in the future on behalf of overunity.com, it should do it in the most impartial manner possible and not with the open intent to mainly pursue any RV aspect.

The initial inventors design must take precedence before any considerations for RV or other alternatives are used. Testing and fully understanding the device, as is, is more important than playing around with it in other ways. Only once the original design is understood fully, should you consider other avenues.

I mean why should you risk putting the RV into a checkmate situation, just to prove a point. You may wind up proving the wrong point. So be careful how you decide to promote RV.

3) On the Fylwheel generator, if Chas added two more pulleys before the generator end, he will be one step ahead of me because in Jan-Feb 2008, I will be trying out my Alternative #2 (3-6-9) located at; 

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3260.msg48499.html#msg48499

By using a higher than required RPM drive that will go down to its required RPM under load and a 10kw generator running at 50%-75% recovery. That should be a good mix. So the clock is ticking, tic-toc, tic-toc. And time will tell.

4) Remember, I did not recommend you sell extraction or other circuits to make money, but ONLY to increase the number of testers of RV. Like I said, replicating the RV is easy but making the circuits is not for everyone. Actually, most EEers will not want to get involved with the heavy nuts and bolts. Anyways, think about it, will ya?

5) I think people here wanted Chas' device to work above and beyond all the physics considerations, simply because he seems to be a very nice person who is pretty up in years and we all wanted him to achieve success with this obvious substantial build. But nice does not cut it in OU. Ultimately, it either works or it does not. Either way, it's a learning experience.

6) Don't leave a forum the way you did. Always keep the door open. You're young. You'll learn.

Thanks again and all the best.

Thanks John, and greetings to most lol

The R and D is very much alive, i am taking a professional fitter and turner over to see Chas to assess how he can make his wheel materials more robust and stabilize his design, all will be revealed open sourced of cause . I will do my best to get others tests out of the way we have two videos to still upload, no internet at home yet we just moved house, they are not as revealing of Chas's wheel as the stuff already on the page just to let people know in advance.

@ watts up,


>@AshFirst of all thanks for all your participation in bringing us the Chas Wheel as well as the Chas Flywheel devices.

We are a non profit org and here to help you are welcome

>I know it was not easy and I am sure you felt like you had to walk across a mine-field at times due to some people here giving you a hard time.

I don't offend easily, in fact its i that usually offend, no one or thing will stop me from working non profit towards building our children a future, its the time wasting that pisses me off beware any one who does my time is very precious and busy

>Well nothing is ever lost, and I am sure what you have learned from this escapade will give you more food for thought.

it comes back to what i have known for years we need a granted research and development center

>1) A gravity wheel that size with that much weight to turn requires bowling balls, not billiard balls.

I cannot address that technically, would prefer you showing us in the lab in comparison to the actual wheel

>2) If Panacea does OU investigations in the future on behalf of overunity.com, it should do it in the most impartial manner possible and not with the open intent to mainly pursue any RV aspect.

Not agreed, the RV was used only additionally and has helped some plus can improve many areas, i see your water pump and or drill lathe and or saw isn't run in RV mode.

If it is one HP then you my friend are wasting energy , you are welcome to use my RV drill for your experiments, but build your own via our recommendations you will see we are not wrong. I dontr know one engineer who hasn't used an RV and not saved energy if there are those let me ttell me i will show them the way, and or the engineers i know

>The initial inventors design must take precedence before any considerations for RV or other alternatives are used. Testing and fully understanding the device, as is, is more important than playing around with it in other ways. Only once the original design is understood fully, should you consider other avenues.

we did both, so DITTO don't rag on the RV bro it will cause this young man to become defensive 

>I mean why should you risk putting the RV into a checkmate situation, just to prove a point. You may wind up proving the wrong point. So be careful how you decide to promote RV.

We would of never associated the RV with his device unless test were conclusive but thanks for the advice mate any ways okay i know you mean well

>3) On the Fylwheel generator, if Chas added two more pulleys before the generator end, he will be one step ahead of me because in Jan-Feb 2008, I will be trying out my Alternative #2 (3-6-9) located at;
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3260.msg48499.html#msg48499

Well dam man, some one building and not bitching 
Let me know if i can help i bet i can

>By using a higher than required RPM drive that will go down to its required RPM under load and a 10kw generator running at 50%-75% recovery. That should be a good mix. So the clock is ticking, tic-toc, tic-toc. And time will tell.

FREQ drive your RV with the pulley to get the desired RPM, it will help based on lab tests of loading the RV prime mover,, don't de construct your set up till we or you  get you a Freq drive for your RV.

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The users ignored know why they are ignored.

Will report the results when in.

Chas write up updated from our on line university, his web page is being updated ATM too.

http://www.panaceauniversity.org/D21.pdf

More[tests] to come .
Ashtweth

??It is not clear if the irregular drive which makes this system work so well is due to the way that the mains motor works, or to slight slippage in the drive belts.  The bottom line is that Chas? system produces excess energy??  p16 of 18

I thought everything I had read here and in the other Chas thread and seen on the testing video clearly showed no excess energy!  I even read a couple posts where Ashtweth Nihilisti explained how he was removing the claims of excess energy or OU from his Panacea website in regard to this machine.  Now the newly-edited Panacea University booklet contains this pair of statements?  Weird!

Linda Damiani

The Milkovic pendulum and the gravity chain are in there too as overunity devices, so don't expect too many corrections.

dear ash,
i often here conspiracy theories and no funding available for research.
have a look at this site 104 million in funding projects , many solar research even one tyrning sea plants into light crude.
http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/atp_2007_awards.html
i know other projects including magnetic motors recieving multi million funding.
My question to you (I am trying to be helpful) is what is common amoungst all of them.
I feel the biggest is credability.
The second is they have valid data supporting there research
If you read the projects being funded many will have a big impact on delivering cheap alternative energy products ..one I know of reducing solar panel costs to less than 25c a watt.
Like I said, just trying to be helpful.
PS these projects are funded by the USA government
Mark

Come on, you know what conspiracy theorists will say.  That website is fake, there is no money, and don't believe your lying eyes.

okay that user is Humbugger, encase your suckered in by this user il, state the reference enfact check it out yourself what is stated

his other informaiton is not accurate either and twisted to try and dis credit my self, this crosses [dressing] posting pest with not technical practical knowledge is back and not going to waste my time again.

If people need to contact me they know where to find me.,

Ashtweth