Quote from: Dingus Mungus on July 18, 2007, 02:47:20 AM

My assumption is he's depositing large ammounts of energy in to a flywheel and then the excess amperage would be coming from slowing down the flywheel. This is why I want the Killawatt meters to be used. So we can track by exact RMS wattage and power factor, and compare ALL input to ALL output. No time sampled multimeter will help disprove my theory. I've already offered to pay for the required meters. Now its just time to sit back and wait for evidence or the complete lack thereof.

I hope you plan to measure ALL the power consumed when spinning up that huge flywheel. How much does that thing weigh I wonder... I bet all the weight is out on the edge too. I just hope you take complete measurements before you claim OU on this device. I see some analog panel meters... I did offer to assist with propper Wh meters, but for some reason his input/output is measured real time samples only.



If I spin a 100 kilo flywheel up to 10,000 rpm, then I could shut off the motor and extract quite a lot of power while it slowed down. Flywheels store energy just like a leaky cap. You need to make sure you take a propper measurement of all input and all output collectively! Anything less is inconclusive.

~Dingus Mungus

Reposted @ Humbugger
You're preaching to the chior here...

I'm just saying slow your roll. Work on some of this stuff first, explain some stuff, tell people about your ideas... Then when a joker pops up tear him up once or twice and wait. This is giving them the proverbial noose rope, then when they pull a mahess or VANDUGEGS, you'd be helping out not distracting. Chas is in the phase where we're watching and waiting, with site engineers attempting to gain access to measure the claims. Spamming 3 pages with "it doesn't work" or "it can't work" before we get these numbers is silly and makes us all look bad... We do have a procedure that we follow for this, but you're just ranting the most obvious points in the mean time.

~Dingus Mungus

Well I'll just have to warn you, only those with research and experiments are taken seriously here. Delusional or not... Joe Newman is a great example; hes obviously a little delusional, but his technology shows promise none the less. So we will listen to him not to hear about how god gave him the technology, but about how it works so we can experiment with the technology.

Your services as a humbugger will be treated as distraction or mere formality that comes with this kind of research, but your active experimenting in a field of your choice coupled to a keen sense of skepticism will be much more readily embraced.

So in closing, lets lower the useless chatter in the threads. No ones going to stop working on something because you say so. Thats a even sillier delusion to beleive... It's time now to wait for Ash or Mark to come back with some hard numbers, and you better believe I'll be here, with you, throwing a fit if power over time isn't propperly refrenced in the measurements. Hell I offered to purchase the meters for Chas to speed up the process.

~Dingus Mungus

P.S. You gotta have a little more faith in the regular members around here. We're patient not stupid, and we look at everything even if we've seen something similar before.

OK fellows,

point taken...I should ease up...not fill others' threads with long tirades all night...ok...ok...ok.  I get it.  Right or wrong, I should be less rude and space-hoggish about it.  I see...newbie error.  Please forgive me.

@Stefan:  Do you find it at all odd that Griggs is now out of the company and Hydro Dynamics Inc. is only selling very specialized industrial units with no OU claims whatsoever?  Do you suppose this is resulting from suppression or is the machine not really all that the first few tests by the OU community cracked it up to be?  You would think they would shout from the rooftops if it was the only OU water heater in the world!  And sell them into all possible application areas.  Can't buy one to heat hot water at home or at the office or Fire Station, for that matter...only specialized industrial plant process heaters.  No efficiency numbers even discussed.  Makes me wonder...

Humbugger

This guy is one step closer to the grave,  with his invention disappearing
forever.   

 Ive stumbled into Youtube, and found out about the "New World Order"

 Who apparently have been using their cash to gain corruption and more
money and power...  since (and before)  the very Govt. was established
in Usa.

 They control the very TV content, including news.  Radio.  Police.
Govt.  And operate across many countries.    Though, it seems they
have a (temporary?) weakness with regards to the internet control...

 They wont seize the guy till his work it said to be finished.   As then
there is no chance for wasted efforts on a device that does not
really pose a threat.

 There is NOBODY that can help this guy get any money out of the thing.

 In fact, I doubt that anyone could or would build a working commercial
device... because they are all tied to the NWO in some way.

 The only way the guy has any chance, is to give out the plans
Immediately,  to a LOT of people.   As that may insure a ton
of people can build it before it can be silenced.

 This guy, like many, thinks things are just peachy.  Please clue him
in on how  Stan Myers just passed away.   As well as info on the NWO.

 He should not trust Anyone...   but should release the info
to masses asap. 

 If somehow it really does work, and if say... 200 people
build the things...  maybe theres a small chance that
they could all unite and form an unstoppable, undeniable
press revolution.   A day when all machines are revealed
at the same time, in various locations in the world...
and via internet and local coverages.   This may lead
to a forced position that the NWO will not be able to
mess with.

 
 Ohh, and Btw, if anyone can make money with an invention,
you can bet that the NWO will still get a cut from the
manufacture, distribution, and taxes.

 And the money wont be worth much, when they have created
massive destruction of the world as we know it.

FreeEnergy... thats nothing.    Nwo has ties to Satanism.  They
are intending to cause the 'end'.


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvgm0RJnHRo&mode=related&search=
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkKbE9qCzQo&mode=related&search=
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a9Syi12RJo&mode=related&search=
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m89SB59DT34&mode=related&search=

 And most recent:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OFvkfmJaAk
 
 Time to wake up guys.   Spread the news Fast.

In addition,  I just dug this one up:

 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936

 Did you know that the Federal Reserve is not controlled by
the Govt anymore?!   Its privately owned and designed for
making profit.  And... its NEVER been Audited!

 Your money has been the Fuel to the NWO's personal
wealth, and disgustiing projects...

  Actually, thats not 100% accurate according to this documentary. 
US did at one time have control of a 'central bank'..   but later
thru corruption,  the bank was took over by what would be
called 'The Federal Reserve'.   

 Sure, the name was different, Ill give you that.   But there
actually was a system in place before that time, where
we controlled our own funds.

 Turns out that throughout history, these  Money changers,
have been attaining wealth and power at any cost.  It
even goes back to the date of Jesus...  where it said
he cast them out of a temple.

 Now, Im not a super religious guy.   I do not believe/trust
any one thing in any religion.   But, I do believe in a higher power..
a Good one.   And I do believe there was a Jesus... even
if I do not believe the story that has most likely been
corrupted as well. 

 I can say, that all this makes perfect logical sense. As
well as the irrefutable and overwhelming proofs.

 Its hard to believe that something was never done
to stop this a Long time ago.  So very sad...

 

Ah yes zero i have been saying about nwo, and the free energy ,and how it has to be open sourced, and not stupid patents sometime ago there is no point whatsoever,open sourced,or (if you patent free energy)patents = oil pfft, feed the people with the free energy machines who know they work,that they get there money from selling electric or not even paying bills on electric and may as well open source them rather then stupid patents,i know thats corrupt as well.


Anyways you can go back on topic.