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Offline FreeEnergy

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Re: Gigantic drinking birds
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2007, 12:31:37 PM »
Humbugger could you please draw a picture so we can have a better idea.

also i like to build this right away and need off the shelf parts.

i was thinking of using one of those long neck 5 gallon bottle for the head and bottom, but i can't seem to find a nice fitting pipe. will fish tank glue work good for the sealing of the pipe? should i use different materials instead? should the pipe be plastic/metal/etc?

i also plan on using the flywheel idea, possibly a geared bicycle wheel?or something else? once i got a working bird then i can "close the loop" like the above picture by making the bird sealed.

"also I've read somewhere that if you paint the bird's bottom black and the head silver it will work even better too"
- should the head be silver or white? also heard white works better.

(http://img.alibaba.com/photo/11136052/3_Gallon_And_5_Gallon_Mineral_Water_Bottle.jpg)

---> VIDEO OF DRINKING BIRD http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=mIjXg5fvvas
« Last Edit: August 26, 2007, 01:33:00 PM by FreeEnergy »

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Re: Gigantic drinking birds
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Re: Gigantic drinking birds
« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2007, 05:45:46 PM »
Not a bad idea to build bigger drinking birds.
Maybe one of you guys can offer a kit, that would really be super sales item, if it is not too expensive and it will work 24/7.
Just give it every day a bit of new water and you can charge up your batteries 24/7 all day long ! Sell something like this for 200 to 300 bucks and manyvpeople would buy this, as it also  looks cool... So who is going to be the first, who is offering such a kit at this prize level ?

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Re: Gigantic drinking birds
« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2007, 09:55:21 PM »
100-200 usd sounds reasonable as long as it produces reasonable power over time.

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Re: Gigantic drinking birds
« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2007, 09:55:21 PM »
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Re: Gigantic drinking birds
« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2007, 10:47:53 PM »
If it produced enough to run a 25watt lamp all the time it would prove the concept. anyone ever notice that something is really hard until one person does it then all the sudden as if an invisible barrier is broken everyone can then do it.

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Re: Gigantic drinking birds
« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2007, 10:21:15 AM »
if you make the ceiling high enough i don't think you will be needing to add water to the system. should be self sustaining :)






peace

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Re: Gigantic drinking birds
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Re: Gigantic drinking birds
« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2007, 10:56:58 AM »
25 Watts constant output will not be doable with smaller
sized versions, but you can use this bike light generator
unit to charge up lead acid batteries 24/7 all day /week /year
long:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6537266223222682967

It has the advantage, that it produces nice current and voltage spikes
which  charge up lead acid batteries nicely and fast.
Also it does not slow down much the drinking bird.
So it would be the perfect and cheap generator for the drinking bird !

For the evapourated water, you could design a water container reservoir,
which will put water automatically into the bird?s head water container,
if the water level would fall there.
E.G. something like a swimmer controlled valve.
If the water level falls, a valve will open and
the water from an upper reservoir can flow into the lower
bird?s head water reservoir.
Thus you only have to refill the upper water reservoir
maybe once each week with some water, so not much
maintainance needed.
The power output at charged up lead acid batteries should be
enough to at least run your laptop PC for a few hours per day
and maybe some 12 Volts LED lights.

Best regards, Stefan.

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Re: Gigantic drinking birds
« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2007, 11:09:17 AM »
if you make the ceiling high enough i don't think you will be needing to add water to the system. should be self sustaining :)






peace

what do you guys think?

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Re: Gigantic drinking birds
« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2007, 11:09:17 AM »
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Re: Gigantic drinking birds
« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2007, 11:15:50 AM »
if you make the ceiling high enough i don't think you will be needing to add water to the system. should be self sustaining :)






peace



what do you guys think?


Please explain how the ceiling height would effect the water usage.  I don't understand that.  Sorry!

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Re: Gigantic drinking birds
« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2007, 11:46:23 AM »
25 watts sound okay,if you play around with it, and add more generators you can get to 50 watts, just like adding multiple batterys in series,

you could make a 25 watt allways on light bulb,i would think that to be cool,you could tell scientists who think free energy is aload of bull , it, heh.

well,if you come up with something quite impressive with drinking birds i would be interested in buying it.

You could crank up the output to 100watts,see how much that would be with a bit of profit etc,

to me 100-200watts sound minimal enough for me, 25 watts for a always on lightblub,

even though i would be interested in buying a 25 watt fe drinking bird machine.

heh keep going.

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Re: Gigantic drinking birds
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Re: Gigantic drinking birds
« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2007, 11:56:49 AM »
because the atmosphere  becomes saturated with water vapor and the bird stops. we want the vapor to stay away from the bird's bottom so it stays dry :) so rising the ceiling creates distance and vapor stays away from the bottom.



peace

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Re: Gigantic drinking birds
« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2007, 12:04:19 PM »
25 watts sound okay,if you play around with it, and add more generators you can get to 50 watts, just like adding multiple batterys in series,

you could make a 25 watt allways on light bulb,i would think that to be cool,you could tell scientists who think free energy is aload of bull , it, heh.

well,if you come up with something quite impressive with drinking birds i would be interested in buying it.

You could crank up the output to 100watts,see how much that would be with a bit of profit etc,

to me 100-200watts sound minimal enough for me, 25 watts for a always on lightblub,

even though i would be interested in buying a 25 watt fe drinking bird machine.

heh keep going.

If we consider that an average man in good health, pedalling hard on a stationary bicycle equipped with a generator for half an hour produces an average power of 150W and ends up pretty well totally exhausted, I think our friend mister bird is going to have to be about 373 feet tall and weigh 952 kilograms to do a steady 25W.  Just a wild guess.

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Re: Gigantic drinking birds
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Re: Gigantic drinking birds
« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2007, 09:45:28 PM »
see my previous reply.


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Re: Gigantic drinking birds
« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2007, 02:55:13 AM »
because the atmosphere  becomes saturated with water vapor and the bird stops. we want the vapor to stay away from the bird's bottom so it stays dry :) so rising the ceiling creates distance and vapor stays away from the bottom.



peace

Okay...that seems like it makes reasonable sense...I guess.  I think if a kit were to be marketed though, most folks would want it outdoors as a kind of lawn curiosity.  Who knows?  People do love curiosities and things that demonstrate non-intuitive principals.

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Re: Gigantic drinking birds
« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2007, 04:05:58 AM »
yeah it can be outside or anywhere really.
the cover that seals the whole bird can be transparent so you can see everything never having to add liquid.

(http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2421.0;attach=12276;image)




edit - the height of the ceiling will depend on how much liquid you are using i guess, the more the liquid the higher the ceiling.
guess it also depends on the weather.

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Re: Gigantic drinking birds
« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2007, 04:22:13 AM »
Have a look at this ferris wheel.
Maybe it is better to built it like this
or combine it with a Wally Minto wheel:

(http://www.genuineideas.com/Assets/annimatedassets/solarferriswheel.gif)

Then you have a real rotation instead of a rocking for- and backwards.

Here are some great links:

http://www.wundersamessammelsurium.de/Warmes/Liebesthermometer/

There it seems that Diethylether would be the best, but today is
mostly used the less dangerous Methylenchlorid.

http://www.genuineideas.com/HallofInventions/SolarFerrisWheel/solarferriswheel.html

http://www.genuineideas.com/HallofInventions/SolarFerrisWheel/solarrockermovie.html


http://www.scitoys.com/scitoys/scitoys/thermo/thermo.html


Regards, Stefan.

 

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