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Dingus Mungus

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Re: super-neo-techno-wigwams
« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2007, 12:37:04 AM »
Who ridiculed you?

I was simply pointing out lack of feasibility...
You said it needed to be portable to one man,
But then you said it would use a cargo container as a battery.
They're contraflicting statements... not ridicule...

I'm only trying to understand your concept and theory.
Frankly I'm in favor of researching anything that provides sovernty,
but I don't think you know what it is you need to accomplish that yet.
So in the mean time we'll all be poking at you plan until it stands up on its own.
Thats called peer review...

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Re: super-neo-techno-wigwams
« Reply #31 on: June 22, 2007, 06:12:57 AM »
I believe the shipping container could be transported by truck, and the actual wigwams could be transported by person.

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Re: super-neo-techno-wigwams
« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2007, 07:40:04 AM »
::shakes head::

Ok I'm not trying to ridicule you here xenobard, but if the battery requires a truck to get to the next nomadic destination, wouldn't it make more sence to just throw the wigwam on too? and maybe the person so they don't have to walk so far... A typical cargo container is powder coated carbon steel and starts at 8'x8'x9' and weighs 12 tons. I know this because I'm looking at buying some to build a workshop out of. It's
not exactly something you want to tow around if you know what I mean...

A portable wigwam that is truely portable... like one with wheels! (city/school bus)
Free diesel from vegie oil greasel... Free diesel generator... You can add solar shower.
I did it for 2 years man, it's not that expensive and I still think its what you want.

Or you could always use a solar DC motor combo and use it to move periodicly...
Your home/cargo would have to be "ultra light", due to deep cycle marine batteries.
Think of it this way: it can build a solar charge over 3 months to move you 10 miles.
Then its still one man portable and self sufficient with no CO2 footprint. (expensive tho)

Trust me man, we're all here for the same reason.
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Re: super-neo-techno-wigwams
« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2007, 06:29:29 PM »
"Think of it this way: it can build a solar charge over 3 months to move you 10 miles.
Then its still one man portable and self sufficient with no CO2 footprint."

This idea is interesting.  The shipping container is the center of the community, acting as the battery and the septic system.  When it is in one location, so too is the community, living a hunting and gathering lifestyle.  When the foord and game is depleted in the area, the shipping container / battery / septic system is moved to another location,  and the community follows.

Now, I am thinking that this community would number in the hundreds - each carrying their wigwam and food along the journey to the next location of the community.  It does not have to be very far - perhaps only 50 miles.

Now, it occurs to me that the ideal way to transport this cargo container / battery / septic tank would be by air - an air-ballon, perhaps. This way the community would not be limmited only to locations where there are roads.

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Re: super-neo-techno-wigwams
« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2007, 10:20:15 PM »
This might be off topic, but has anyone concidered how to build a home that would last several thousand years. Maybe, a huge geodesic sphere that rolls or floats along the surface of the planet.

:-P

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Re: super-neo-techno-wigwams
« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2007, 10:46:55 PM »
Dood...
Where are you going to get the lighter than air gasses every move.
Why does a flying battery make more sence than a flying turbine?
Don't you see you're adopting the least useful components of my ideas.

You as in YOU right now could be self sufficient!!!
WAKE UP! STOP DESIGNING A JOKE!
Think seriously about what you just described...
Flying a 12ton cargo container with helium.

I designed several self sufficient busses in the last few years.
I helped design and build all of them for less than 10k a piece.
You can stand around here pulling ideas out of your ass and
hoping they make sense or you could start being realistic.

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Re: super-neo-techno-wigwams
« Reply #36 on: June 23, 2007, 01:25:12 AM »
Maybe I should beter explain why I said "pull an idea from your ass and hope it makes sense":
You would need a dozen ballons 12 meters in diameter to lift an empty cargo container...
Thats 10,860 cubic meters or 35,620 cubic feet of helium minimum... :o

Whats so bad about a fricken RV???

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Re: super-neo-techno-wigwams
« Reply #37 on: June 23, 2007, 07:06:18 PM »
Whats so bad about a fricken RV???

Not much.  It just doesn't sound very 'half-baked' :P


@bitRAKE

I like it. Sphere within a sphere - like a gyrscope - so the inner sphere remains horizontal.
 

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Re: super-neo-techno-wigwams
« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2007, 04:58:56 AM »
Have you ever heard the old idiom:
"Why re-invent the wheel?"

RV's are designed as nomadic homes that one person can operate. You just aren't thinking about ways to improve on the idea to make it what you want. You were saying a several hundred person village could follow around your septic/battery system, right? So if the RV's purpose was to carry arround 100 wigwams and supply power and cargo tranportation, it would be what you're looking for. Ironicly when I was travelling and touring with my bus companions thats exactly what our busses did. Carry 1-15 people from place to place, carry everyones gear even people not riding, provide 2kw RMS of AC power, and carry its own self contained septic system. We only bought 100$ in fuel twice over a one year period and that was only because we were in a cold climate that wouldn't allow for unheated greasel combustion. You know I'm not trying to trick you in to something stupid and so far I've heard no other affordable or even remotely feasible solution to your concepts discussed requirements.

Now rather than just shoot down my concept maybe you could pitch a better one.

@bitRAKE
I think who ever built the pyrimds beat us to it...

~Dingus Mungus