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Author Topic: super-neo-techno-wigwams  (Read 17715 times)

Offline xenobard

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super-neo-techno-wigwams
« on: May 27, 2007, 02:11:34 PM »
I was thinking about how cool it would be to live in a wigwam!  Especially with the hot native girl the pic here:


(http://www.ahsd25.k12.il.us/Curriculum%20Info/NativeAmericans/images/wigwams.jpg)

Now, although the girl is nice enough, the wigwam in the pic isn't exactly what i had in mind.  See, I've sort of grown too accustomed to all the modern conveiniences of modern living.  And so I'm thinking it would be cool to combine a bunch of these geek-contraptions and apparatii with the  wigwam idea and create a wigwam on steroids: super-neo-techno-wigwams with airconditioning, washing machines, refridgerators, washer /  dryers, satelite internet, and every other modern conveinience you could think of and have it all powered by solar panels (the super-neo-techno-wigwam panels) and wind power (we could connect a wind-power generator to the frame), and lastly make it all easily assembled / disassembled and transportable.

What do you all think?

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super-neo-techno-wigwams
« on: May 27, 2007, 02:11:34 PM »

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Re: super-neo-techno-wigwams
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2007, 03:45:41 PM »
Change the name ,but not the mission, from   www.containerliving.com  to "wigwamliving" ,
think or experiment with modern materials like  www.shelterdomes.co.uk
try Yurts/Ger for the alternative living,
but the easiest way would be an organized  "summer camp",with all the urban,modern, infrastructure equipped with "survival trainees" ! Theory and Practice .

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Re: super-neo-techno-wigwams
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2007, 12:53:53 AM »
interesting are there any ongoing projects of this sort?

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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2007, 12:53:53 AM »
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Re: super-neo-techno-wigwams
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2007, 01:32:01 AM »
Google it,for your region: survival course/trainee
Other,related,themes could be:  Burning Man  and Icosa-Village                           
about "wigwam"-equipment-details: www.geolitesystems.com/hm.html
or www.glen-l.com/campers/glenlrv.html  -trailer-plans

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« Last Edit: May 28, 2007, 04:37:04 PM by lancaIV »

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Re: super-neo-techno-wigwams
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2007, 03:31:24 AM »
You would really want to look at something a little more modernized like container living, or subterranean shelter. To be frank: mud, sticks, and straw won't be up to builders code these days, and the size/building methods of wigwams is feeble when compared to the long houses or teepees of the plains indians. How would living in wigwams: lower polution, lessen energy consumption, or offer any tangible benefit?

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Re: super-neo-techno-wigwams
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2007, 09:57:43 AM »
@dingus mungus

container living?  it doesn't seem containers are very portable.

And when did I say that the wigwams I'm talking about have to be made out of sticks and mud?  Why do you assume that?

I thought I made it clear that the wigwam roof / walls would be made of solar-panels.

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Re: super-neo-techno-wigwams
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2007, 02:23:33 PM »
www.butlerprojects.com/other/grandcabin/index.htm
not a wigwam,but for 500/1000 US$ for 140sft !?
 
http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=DE3412245&F=0
similar to the Markku Hedmann "Kesa-Kontii"-model:
www.architektur-online.infoarchiv/Heft0302/hedman.html and the plan here
www.detail.de/Db/DbFiles/archiv/4992/ansichts.pdf

http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=GB2225358&F=0
image/mosaics page 3/3, "a nice evolution" story
 
http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=FR2572437&F=0
" un peu bourgeoise" ,excuse moi !
"MY HOME IS MY CHALET !"

http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=US4741133&F=0
the alternative to the commercial modern life container: www.habitaflex.com

or :???                     pueblo-material(paper from adobe,adobe from paper)

http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=DE19938141&F=0
foam: www.penopoliuretan.com or  www.fiberfoamconcrete.com
and as coating www.grancrete.net
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p.s.:  http://radio.weblogs.com/0119080
        Gallery of Housing concepts
        for example www.n55.dk/index.html
« Last Edit: May 30, 2007, 03:19:32 PM by lancaIV »

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Re: super-neo-techno-wigwams
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2007, 11:28:48 PM »
@dingus mungus

container living?  it doesn't seem containers are very portable.

And when did I say that the wigwams I'm talking about have to be made out of sticks and mud?  Why do you assume that?

I thought I made it clear that the wigwam roof / walls would be made of solar-panels.

Sticks, staw and mud is how a wig wam is made... thats why I assumed.
So you plan on building it with what then?

I'm just confused by the idea all together...
What is the advantage or benefit of living in a wig wam? As in How will living in wig wams benefit mankind? Also where is the concept in this idea that improves efficiency or collects power?

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Re: super-neo-techno-wigwams
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2007, 09:33:50 AM »
@Dingus: Mixing lime and hemp creates an ecological type of concrete that sequesters CO2. It is a far more efficient way of fixing carbon than planting trees. Not so far removed from mud and sticks, really.

@xenobard: how can you aim to be ascetic and have all mod cons at the same time? An ascetic consumer is an oxymoron.

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Re: super-neo-techno-wigwams
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2007, 01:37:44 PM »
Hello Dingus Mungus,
I think xenobard is also in the search-phase,
so let him try to find his own solution.
Wigwam(or Tipi) and "modern comfort": his "best-of-all"-trial.

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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2007, 01:59:12 PM »
@Dingus: Mixing lime and hemp creates an ecological type of concrete that sequesters CO2. It is a far more efficient way of fixing carbon than planting trees. Not so far removed from mud and sticks, really.

Thats amazing! Yet another good use for hemp...
Now that compounted by the low heat conductivity
makes that a great insulator that is next to free,
renewable and a negitive carbon emmission on top.
An excelent contibution to this thread!

Engineering press link with data:
http://www.bdonline.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=453&storycode=3086670&c=2
?In the UK typical cavity wall construction could be responsible for 100kg of CO2 equivalent per square metre of wall?, ?With hemcrete, it?s possible to remove 30-50kg of CO2 per square metre.?

I'll be looking in to these products when I build my dream house.

~Dingus

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Re: super-neo-techno-wigwams
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2007, 09:24:41 PM »
"I'm just confused by the idea all together...
What is the advantage or benefit of living in a wig wam? As in How will living in wig wams benefit mankind? Also where is the concept in this idea that improves efficiency or collects power?"

I thought it was obvious:

Human civilization has existed in two forms: nomadic hunter-gather communities and permanent agricultural settlments.

The latter is proving to be unsustainable, and will eventually fall, as all permanent agriculturally-based settlments have fallen.  Hence the nomadic hunter-gather way of life is simply the most sustainable, time-tested, and, in all honesty, is the way of the future.

I am thinking that we shouldn't have to use sticks and mud or hemp and lime to make them though.  The super-neo-techno-wigwams could be mass-produced now, when the population of the earth is still high enough to provide an adequate market for them to be sold.  They could be designed in such a way that they would last, and so when modern civilization does eventually fall and the majority of the population of Earth dies, there will be plenty of super-neo-techno-wigwams lying around for the surviving people to use.

Now, unlike most things that are mass-produced thesedays, these super-neo-techno-wigwams should actually be made to last; they should be colapseable for transportability; because they will be the 'in' thing, there should be a huge demand for them and thus could be sold at a very low price. :P

All we have to figure out is how to incorporate water and sewage and modern appliances into the colapsable and easily transportable super-neo-techno-wigwam.

We should hurry because we all know the world is going to hell in a handbasket and there isn't much time to get this done.  So come on and help save the future of the human race, will you?  Once all the stupid rich people kill themselves off with their wars and diseases they export around the world, the smart poor people could use some modern conveniences in their super-neo-techno-wigwams.

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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2007, 02:21:25 AM »
So esentially your concept is really high grade tents with built in amenities?
Like say flexible plastic solar wafers sewn in to the outer walls, or like a built
in filterating water pouch that collects rain water... Expensive stuff my friend!
Go check out REI or Cabellas and you'll see that companies are already doing this.

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Re: super-neo-techno-wigwams
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2007, 10:05:42 AM »
Why aren't any of those tents using solar fabric?  Solar fabric technology was developed two years ago.

http://www.powerfilmsolar.com/news/webpages/USATODAY_com%20-%20Iowa%20company%20develops%20solar%20fabric%20that%20gets%20Army's%20attention.htm

It seems they could easily make tents out of this stuff:

http://www.powerfilmsolar.com/products/consumer_ready/rollables/index.htm

Why haven't they put two and two together?

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Re: super-neo-techno-wigwams
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2007, 10:19:17 AM »
Another article from 2004:

http://www.defensetech.org/archives/000989.html

"Long-term, the idea is to have solar panels that can be camouflaged into tents or even uniforms. So the Army is working with contractors "to develop nanotechnology-based solar panels that can be woven directly into fabric. [The] technology replaces silicon with dye polymer plastics that transform any kind of light into electrical energy," Gartner writes."

Does anyone know what has come of this endeavor?

 

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