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Title: John Kanzius: salt water ignition
Post by: lancaIV on May 25, 2007, 01:54:27 PM
www.wpbf.com/news/13383827/detail.html
The machine:
http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=WO2005118065&F=0

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  dL
Title: Re: John Kanzius: salt water ignition
Post by: hartiberlin on May 25, 2007, 05:52:43 PM
Here is a slidehow:
http://www.wpbf.com/slideshow/news/13384010/detail.html (http://www.wpbf.com/slideshow/news/13384010/detail.html)

And here is a video about it:
http://mfile.akamai.com/12887/wmv/vod.ibsys.com/2007/0524/13382787.200k.asx (http://mfile.akamai.com/12887/wmv/vod.ibsys.com/2007/0524/13382787.200k.asx)

Copy this link into Windows Media player under Open URL.

The question is, how much power he needs for the RadioFrequency field ?
Is it more or less than what the ignited H2 puts out ?
Does anyone know ?

From a brief moment of the video it looks like as if the pointer needle from
his Wattsmeter stays in about the center of the range, so it must be around
500 Watts of RF power fed into there ?

I guess the flame puts out much less heat than 500 Watts ?

But okay, the RF power could probably be fed more effectivelyinto the glas
tube and then one would need much less RF power...
The question still is, how much for this amount of H2 production ?
Title: Re: John Kanzius: salt water ignition
Post by: rensseak on May 25, 2007, 10:31:32 PM
hallo Stefan,

die Flamme sieht aber nicht danach aus, als wenn da Wasserstoff brennt (viel zu hell) und das Papiertuch scheint dabei nicht zu verkohlen. Habe ich da nun richt verstanden, das es sich selbst entz?ndet (im video sieht es so aus als wenn es ein Entz?ndung braucht)?

Gru?
Norbert

Title: Re: John Kanzius: salt water ignition
Post by: hartiberlin on May 25, 2007, 11:26:19 PM
Hi Norbert,
this is saltwater, so it burns with a yellow flame from
the NaCL natrium(sodium) ions.

Probably the paper towel was too wet to burn with it...


Hallo Norbert, das brennt mit gelber Farbe,
weil die Natrium Ionen  des Salzwassers die
Flamme gelb f?rben.

Also ich nehme schon mal an, dass das Papiertuch
da auch verbrennt nach einiger Zeit...
haben die wahrscheinlich nur nicht gezeigt...
Vielleicht war es ja auch zu nass vom Salzwasser !

Title: Re: John Kanzius: salt water ignition
Post by: Dyamios on May 27, 2007, 05:55:35 AM
It may just be a sort of directional microwave (which runs on the RF band of 2.4 ghz). I suppose microwaving salt water at a high enough directed wattage will break the molecular bonds.

I don't believe that this is too revolutionary (meaning it still complies with conventional laws of physics), but it may be a more efficient way of producing hydrogen from water than electrolysis.

I believe the paper towel helped self-ignite the hydrogen because of the oxygen produced from the molecular breakdown. It may have provided such a high oxygen-rich atmosphere that the paper ignited itself. You can also observe this phenomenon by blowing pure oxygen onto something like steel wool, which thus ignites itself.

Title: Re: John Kanzius: salt water ignition
Post by: EMdevices on June 19, 2007, 07:42:01 PM
A friend of mine just sent me a video with this same guy and I was going to post it here but I see you're on to it already.  It's the same guy.

How amazing !!!!

Now think of this,   how can we make efficient RF?

Answer:   Tesla Coil !!!!

Do you see the posibilities?

EM
Title: Re: John Kanzius: salt water ignition
Post by: IronHead on June 19, 2007, 11:03:20 PM
Yes , and thank you this is the key I have been missing.



The just been enlightened
IronHead
Title: Re: John Kanzius: salt water ignition
Post by: vondesastre on August 16, 2007, 08:55:02 AM
one damn thing to remember when burning salt water >>> is that at the same time you re burning water you are buring salt >>>>>>>  am i mistaking in saying salt = sodium chloride >>>> am i mistaking saying burning chlorine and/or its compounds in atmospheric air at extrem temperatures will also make  nitrogen/chloried+other other elements >>>am no chemistry research phd but>>>am i mistaking in concluding that those are leathal  compouds for mankind specially in mass production like cars or any combstion type use>>> we myight end up in a worse situation than right now


never the less nice discovery though 
Title: Re: John Kanzius: salt water ignition
Post by: FISHEYE on May 21, 2008, 02:09:48 AM
heres a link to all about John Kanzius and also a copy of all his patents.Now is the time to reverse engineer this device before he sells it to some oil company or medical company and they shelf it.

http://www.rexresearch.com/kanzius/kanzius.htm