............... This thread should simply be deleted.................

I think this thread is a huge waste of time.

We can only save the human race if people try. Let people try, if the human race wishes. Most important, don't waste time.....

"Why do you even think human race needs saving afterall? Don't you think human race is saved already? I do! Thanks our Lord!"

Here we go.  Now all the religios nuts will come out of the woodwork and tell us that everything is ok and that history is going along all as planned according to God's will.

Seriously, Silvije, are you on crack?  10 million + people dying every year from aids is all according to God's will, is it?  Rampant deaths due to cancer due to chemical pollutants in our food supply is God's doing, is it?

How DARE you say that God likes what we are doing.  How DARE you suggest that we don't need to save the world.

New flash for all you, stupid, rich, religious people living in your ivory towers.  God likes us smart, unselfish POOR athiests better than you stupid, greedy, RICH religious people, especially those of you who could help save the world and yet don't.

Let us be clear at the ways in which the world needs saving:
1. aids
2. cancer
3. hunger
4. war (because of oil)
5. (You do some of the thinking for a change, will you?)

Now, for all of you who think that this thread and the super-neo-techno-wigwam thread and saving the world in general have nothing to do free energy.

Are you on crack too?

What the heck do you think free energy is all about?  Developing free energy is ONE of the way in which we are saving the world.

Get it yet?

I thought you guys were supposed to be smart.  This is why I came here.

There is no need for insults. But you did that. Called me religious nut so I have to answer you.
I apologize to the rest.

First what you did wrong is you twisted my words. I dont know what is God's plan. So how can you tell that I am saying what it is.

Second I am not on crack. I know that people are dying all the time and I also know that death is just one experience in ethernal life. You have right not to believe it but read my words again. I was not trying to force my belief on you, just suggested to revise your own questions.

Third, chemical and other pollution is not God's doing. It's human doing. So what confuses you?
Lot of people are doing the same pollution under the mask of saving people, saving third world and so on.. You would like to join them? In your glorious efforts?

4. I did not say that God likes what we are doing as you accused me for. Are you small child with problems with reading or other perception? How could I know what is even your plan?

5. I did not DARE to suggest that we should not save the world, I suggested that we cannot do it even if we wanted or because it is not needed (and I have right to my opinion which I am not forcing on you and I am not twisting your words or accusing of anything... just suggesting to think)

6. I dont like your insults to myself and other religious people. Why are you calling us stupid and greedy? And btw I am not rich.

7. Your 5 saving points is kids thinking. Now I wonder are you really a kid or have some kind of  utopistic ideas left in your mind from the your teen ages.

8. As you are not producing any free energy therefore you are not saving anyone. So dream on...

What you can do is for instance switch to solar and wind energy rather than be angry why your dreams are not dreaming itself the way you want them to... 

That is what are we doing here... we are trying not to polute and use renewable power...
yes we are thinking and making plans too...

I forgive you.

s.

why bother...

if you look close you will see that it is subject to the thread you selected...
so who is pesimist now?

you are very sad man all together with your not resonable accusations...

s.

Please All calm down.

It does not make sense to waste so much time
and anger about "offtopic" postings..
otherwise I will just delete this thread.
Many thanks for understanding.

Regards, Stefan. (admin)

Wait.  Maybe not quite yet. 

My point in starting this thread was multi-layered. 

1.  I am honestly struggling with the notion of whether or not to utilize my potential in the project I spoke of earlier.  Will developing a 'free-energy' prototype community be worthwhile when humanity seems hell-bent on destroying itself.

2.  I have a bone to pick with you scientist / physicist / engineer types.  Historically, you have been RECKLESS in developing technology: the nuclear bomb, chemical products, drugs, fossil fuel burning engines, etc.  You have gone forth in developing such things without adequately considering the sociological and environmental effects of these technologies.  Religion is far from blameless in this either.  It has been religious, white Europeans / Americans with political power that have used you scientist / physicist / engineer types' recklessness to wreak havoc on our world and on our peoples.  In this, you scientist / physicist / engineer types are culpable for many, many evils, for which it will take many, many generations to forgive and forget.

3.  I am always searching for people who want to think carefully and long-term about   sociological effects that would result in developing any new technology.  The effects must be considered very deeply before development is undergone.  I simply enjoy such discussions.

4.  I am always searching for people who want to develop solutions to problems caused by you scientist / physicist / engineer types who failed to consider such long-term sociological impacts of your technologies.  These solutions can NOT be bandaid-solutions or techno-fixes.  These have to be real and permanent solutions: developing technologies that will actually change the way we live for the betterment of humanity rather than merely staving-off or quickening its inevitable demise.

5. You do some thinking for a change.  Why else did I start this thread?

     

just delete this thread!

OR lets just all get along ok?...hehehe


peace

It is very easy to blame scientists, but think about it.

Scientists discovered fision, politicians threw the bomb.

Knife is for cutting bread or killing someone (hopefully not)
so who is to blame? The supposed killer or the man who made the knife?

Is knife good or bad thing? Now replace knife with a term "free energy device". will it bring peace or war?

Xenobard persist that scientists are to be blamed. I don't agree.
Polution and AIDS and so on is not God's plan. It's absence of God in doings of bad people. Not all scientists are bad just as not all politicians....  he should open his eyes...

s.