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Offline xenobard

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Why bother? Seriously. Could someone PLEASE explain...
« on: May 24, 2007, 01:27:40 AM »
Will someone please explain to me what it is about the human race that is worth our efforts in trying to save it?

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Offline HopeForHumanity

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Re: Why bother? Seriously. Could someone PLEASE explain...
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2007, 01:55:10 AM »
It is clear that the human race can do things that no other animal on this planet can do. It is like a gift, but it is our choice to use it or destroy it. Scientist say that the probability that a species such as ours coming into existance is extreme. Why not use our gifts to drive ourselves to become better through non physical evolution? When will we become one of the view species to ever colonize another planet? That fact that a human can question is what makes us so unique. :)

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Re: Why bother? Seriously. Could someone PLEASE explain...
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2007, 07:01:42 AM »
Will someone please explain to me what it is about the human race that is worth our efforts in trying to save it?

Who's trying to save the human race? It's quite obvious that there have been bad times in your life and from the state of the world today it seems that there is no hope for humanity (no pun intended hope for humanity). I'll tell you i've been trampled on by society had everything that meant anything to me taken. Many rights trampled on and my freedoms threatend for defending my ammendment rights.

I wake up every morning and ask myself this question, Is mankind worthy of what i have to offer? The answer is allways NO. But at some point during every day I see good in people, i see good deeds done. I see people helping eachother without monitary gain. Usually by the time i lay down to sleep i question my answer of NO.

There is good and bad in everyone! Choose what you want to dwell on.

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Re: Why bother? Seriously. Could someone PLEASE explain...
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2007, 12:51:12 PM »
Don't save the world - live as part of it. Which is ment in a similar vain as the saying of Mahatma Gandhi, "Be the change you wish to see."

When I was beat down by the world around me it became very easy to respond with hate and contempt. Just letting those emotions take over preserved ("saved") the environment which lead to those emotions. Talk about a perpetual motion machine! It is a struggle when the wounds are fresh or the scars a constant reminder.

If you want the human race to be other than you see it - be that change and the world will follow. Not to say the human race won't end, but to do nothing is to let others choose for you.

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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2007, 02:33:54 PM »
Yawn.  Not convinced.  Sorry.  I've been abused by teachers, pinned down and strapped to a dentist's chair and had teeth pulled, beaten and permanently maimed by a bullies, beaten by parents, uprooted and moved to a different city 5 times, operated on, come to be addicted to drugs, and even had a gun held to my head by a gangster, all before I was 16.

Then, I escaped to college and university, got qualified to obtain work visas to teach English to stupid rich people in foreign countries so I could go and see what it was like other countries.  I realized it was worse everywhere. 

What irony!  The world is so f****d up that it has ended up conspiring against the very creative geniuses that could in fact actually come up with the solutions that would actually save the world.

LOL

What irony indeed.

Does anyone else see the irony?

LOL

I'm having a great time laughing at this irony.

Of course, I have no desire whatsoever to lift any sort of proverbial finger to help humanity.

In fact, humanity should be glad that I am, in fact, such a nice person as to not seek revenge.  Humanity should be happy with me for that.

I will be glad to sit back and watch humanity spiral down around the proverbial drain, unless someone comes up with a better argument than "there is a little bit of something worth saving in everybody".

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Re: Why bother? Seriously. Could someone PLEASE explain...
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2007, 03:21:51 PM »
@xenobard

Nothing in literature can get this point across to you. Nothing in our words or others. You can read all you want about making spaghetti, but nothing will replace tasting it live. You will know when it is time. When you meet the perfect smile. When you see your own come into this world and how they cling to you, you will know.

When you put all your anger into something positive as you have lived through more than most at your age, you will become your own example of why there is a worth.

The option is death. So try to lie down on your back. Close your eyes, close your mind and pretend that you are dead. No more movement, no more feeling, no more effort to survive. Just leave your mind and lie dead forever. Try it for just 15 minutes. Now how fun is that?

But if you ask me the answer is very simple. Don't ask yourself such crappy questions. One day when you will die, you will then be dead for eternity and you will have all the time in the world to ask yourself all sorts of questions. But now that you are here, it is your choice to be the best person you can, not to make the best world you would like. If you become the best you can, and if others do the same, then you will know that you cannot save humanity. You can only save yourself from yourself.

Last thing. Your mind and the way you tune it will attract the very conditions you convey. It goes above and beyond any other power. The power of the mind to create the reality that it is continuously thinking of. So, change your thoughts and YOUR WORLD will change for you. And that is all that really matters. Be aware that your mind is not your best friend. It will torment you, it will make you ask so many crazy questions and give you so many phobias, and for some, it will make you jump off a bridge. Now what kind of friend is that. So your own mind, this powerful magnifier needs to be controlled. When you learn to control it, you will know you are saved.

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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2007, 03:50:03 PM »
Xenobard, they is you.  Learn to love yourself.

What you describe are effects, look for the ultimate cause.

You seem to be intelligent, follow your thoughts to their ultimate end, and beyond.

All your observations are true and correct, but that's not all there is.

Your original question is a trick question because it presents certain assumptions or opinions as fact and so limits answers to those that accept and are based on those 'facts'.

Your question is not very honest.  When I have asked that same question, I myself was not being very honest.  Or should I say clear?

Love is the answer to your original question.  Love with a capital 'L'.  This is hard to accept, I know, but it's true.

Thanks for sharing your ironic humour, yes it is funny.

Les.

 

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Offline ring_theory

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Re: Why bother? Seriously. Could someone PLEASE explain...
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2007, 04:13:49 PM »
Yawn.  Not convinced.  Sorry.  I've been abused by teachers, pinned down and strapped to a dentist's chair and had teeth pulled, beaten and permanently maimed by a bullies, beaten by parents, uprooted and moved to a different city 5 times, operated on, come to be addicted to drugs, and even had a gun held to my head by a gangster, all before I was 16.

Then, I escaped to college and university, got qualified to obtain work visas to teach English to stupid rich people in foreign countries so I could go and see what it was like other countries.  I realized it was worse everywhere. 

What irony!  The world is so f****d up that it has ended up conspiring against the very creative geniuses that could in fact actually come up with the solutions that would actually save the world.

LOL

What irony indeed.

Does anyone else see the irony?

LOL

I'm having a great time laughing at this irony.

Of course, I have no desire whatsoever to lift any sort of proverbial finger to help humanity.

In fact, humanity should be glad that I am, in fact, such a nice person as to not seek revenge.  Humanity should be happy with me for that.

I will be glad to sit back and watch humanity spiral down around the proverbial drain, unless someone comes up with a better argument than "there is a little bit of something worth saving in everybody".

BAH!

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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2007, 06:08:18 PM »
My mind is fine.  I have no desire to die or jump of a bridge, even WITH a bungee cord, and imagining being dead doesn't sound like very much fun at all.

See, all I've learned in all of these troubles I've had is that I don't like humans.  I just don't care about them.  I don't want to have one for a girlfriend or even have any for children.  I just want to be left alone to enjoy the fantastical journies I take in my mind. I'm perfectly happy to be left alone in my room.

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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2007, 08:16:04 PM »
That's normal and not unusual.  There are millions of people doing the exact same thing, and millions of others who'd like to do that if they could, and still more who are doing it but not within the confines of their rooms.

The difficulty is, you are human too and also exhibit, in some form or another, all of the repulsive features you see in others.  So, really, all your struggles are struggles with yourself.  It's perfectly natural to want to run from that fact, but even if you do there is no escaping from it, not really, as running from it only perpetuates it.

The question I have in relation to your fantastical journeys is, what is a journey without a destination?  It is pointless, meaningless, temporary wandering.  At best, a scenic tour.  So then, is that what you are, a tourist?  If not, then you must have a direction or purpose, a destination beyond the scenic views.  Go to that destination, via your train of thought, through the wonderful landscapes of your mind.  That is where the answer to all your questions awaits.

I don't want to say much more than this because this isn't really the place for it.  I've said what I said because in your words I see a kindred spirit, a fellow traveller.  You've made me smile and I wish you all the best.

Les.   

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« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2007, 10:05:11 PM »
being happy in your head is a luxury given to you by us HUMANS you dispise, you are a joke buddy. Why rant about your hardships? we dont care, we are here to be friends, that sounds like a concept you are foreign to so leave us alone ok. Next time you need some teeth pulled tell the dentist just how much you hate him or the next time you get mugged make sure to tell the mugger you dispise his entire race. Make sense yet? we care to be cared about, whether its subconsiously or not. There is hope that we can live forever on this planet, science is proving that now. I certainly will not give up even after my parents were taken, and my brother shot in front of me. I am in the fight for life, on the good side!

          Sincerely Sypherios

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Offline FreeEnergy

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« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2007, 10:13:13 PM »
lol...

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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2007, 11:56:35 PM »
@Sypherios

1.  Good side / Bad side?  WTH are you talking about?
 
2. Why are you flaming ME about luxury?  Holy Crap.  Do you need attention or something?  I'm able to live this lifestyle because I am smart and frugal, smart enough not to be entrapped (too much) by materialism.

3.  Why do you assume humanity has done ANYTHING for me?  LOL.  I got to where I am on my OWN.   Solo.  No company, no friends, nobody gave me anything, except my parents, of course. But as an adult, I got to where I am by letting stupid rich people think they were using me for a while when in fact I was using them.

@Les

"I've said what I said because in your words I see a kindred spirit, a fellow traveller."

Wherever you go there you are.  I'm always at my destination, always self-actualized, always content.

Look.  I'll destroy all your arguments for getting involved in saving humanity.  Believe me, I have thought about it more deeply than any of you have.  Believe me when I say that I have every good reason not to want to get involved.  I despise the notion of joining humanity.  I despise humanity.

And I have no self guilt at the notion that I am also human.  I recognize the fact that I can not help but be despicably human-like to some extent as I am, unfortunately, still living in a human society.  I am not yet an ascetic.  I'm working on that, though.  I suppose you could say my 'destination' is a place that is extricated from human society, a nowhereland, a cabin on a cliff above the sea from which the cougar does not flee and where there is no human reverie.   

 

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« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2007, 12:34:50 AM »
Ok than why are you posting here? You asked for an explaination several people responded with their views. I personally don't see where this thread has anything to do with research of unity, over-unity, free-energy or any kind of mechanism to produce such an effect. You say your content with bieng seporated from society but you come into this forum looking for interraction from society.


Why bother? you ask.. DOGMA!!!

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« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2007, 12:54:14 AM »
@ring theory

"Ok than why are you posting here? You asked for an explaination several people responded with their views. I personally don't see where this thread has anything to do with research of unity, over-unity, free-energy or any kind of mechanism to produce such an effect. You say your content with bieng seporated from society but you come into this forum looking for interraction from society."

Interesting, isn't it?  It seems to be a contradiction or a paradox, does it not - the fact that I obviously want to join humanity and interact and help further civilization, and yet, at the same time, despise civilization and wish to extricate myself from it.

Any psych majors around?

 

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