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Author Topic: HOW to use Radio Frequency as Catalyst!!!! TPU in Water!! Patent Here-->  (Read 18663 times)

Offline Bruce_TPU

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http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6217712.html

Resin Rat will like this, forget the catalysts, just pick a frequency to mimic the catalyst and you have hydrogen.....!

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VVVEEEEERRRRRRRYYYY interesting!!! :)

This I must read. Thanks btentzer.

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I see hints of Stan Meyer's ghost in this one, but I'm no electronics guy. Resonance frequencies are all over the HHO threads. Is this different only because it uses RADIO wave frequencies? Somebody tell me. Does that mean it can get by with using voltage lower than the other methods that don't use catalysts?

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I see hints of Stan Meyer's ghost in this one, but I'm no electronics guy. Resonance frequencies are all over the HHO threads. Is this different only because it uses RADIO wave frequencies? Somebody tell me. Does that mean it can get by with using voltage lower than the other methods that don't use catalysts?

yah i think so.

If i correctly understand the meyers unit stan is trying for electrical resonance where the water tank is in essense the capacitor for the electrical circuit.

This guy is looking at the resonance of the water molecule itself with the intent of easily forcing it apart using the mass as the resonant frequency.   

Thats my take on it.

here take a peek at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7RFyh5ABcQ

this one has the best music!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uNAYUSdA-4

This one is cool too watch the modal patterns change:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4971487472071937676&q=

















« Last Edit: May 22, 2007, 03:03:57 PM by kokomoj0 »

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How to use resonance to split water:
http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=DE4238952&F=0
Received Patent-right !
But invented 1982: 2007, now free process technology !

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Hi Resin Rat,

From what I understand of this, (1) day reading,  is that every metal has a moleculer frequency.  The patent says that these numbers are readily available.

Next, you take your RF signal generator and set it to that frequency and put it into the solution according to the patent. 

The solution "feels" the catalyst.  If it had a brain it would be tricked into thinking it is seeing that particular metal.

My first thought is KOH in water and Aluminum.  Replace the Aluminum with the molecular resonant frequency of the Aluminum metal and you have the KOH water mixture thinking you just put in AL.  And here comes Hydrogen!!  Can you say,"unbelievable!"  Where has this tech been?!

Thank you for your time,
Bruce

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what if you have two frequencies for both KOH & Alum?

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How to use resonance to split water:
http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=DE4238952&F=0
Received Patent-right !
But invented 1982: 2007, now free process technology !

S
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thought i woudl just post it :)

Abstract of DE4238952
In resonance-based generation of H2 and O2 from water, using a hypersonic generator of suitable frequency, the resonance frequency (fO) can be that corresp. to the distance (d) between the nucleus of the O atoms and its outer electron shell or the proton. fO can be calculated approx. from the formula: fO = c/(pi.d), where c= the speed of sound in water and pi= the Ludolf's no). USE/ADVANTAGE - The H2 can be used as fuel in power stations or in hydrogenation (hardening fat), synthesis of petrol, MeOH and NH3, redn in metallurgy, in welding etc. The O2 can also be used for technical and other purposes. The overall efficiency of the process is much higher than usual and the process is more friendly to the environment.

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@ hanker
Unknown!

Time to get some links on building a RF signal generator.  Pese also know how to do this I think>  A Good readable schematic would be a good find, guys.

Thank you for your time,
Bruce

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Y'all might be lookin' fer awile to find the plans- these frequencies are in the gigahertz range, or so I was told by a physics prof.   The harmonics do the deed of splitting, but once you get past the third harmonic, the effect is so weak it won't do much good.  Might as well just buy a sig gen that can hit the high notes, uh huh, and see what happens there. 

Surely some hack out there has done this already; try and find his thesis and build offa that.

Keith

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« Last Edit: May 24, 2007, 08:25:43 AM by pese »

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@ Pese
Thank you Pese for your kind offers of help.  I am sure there will be a need for it as well as any easy schematics for us electronic newbies.
P.S.  And the Patent you posted is the same one I started the thread with.   ;)

@ everyone
Patent's Quote:  (here we go again! LOL)
"...defined as the signal frequency determined by nuclear magnetic resonance of the selected catalyst. It is commonplace to use nuclear magnetic resonance to identify elements within a substance and the signal frequencies of various elements (including catalysts) are listed in widely published tables."

If someone with a knack for research could find these tables (charts, data sheets,?)  and post them here on this thread, that would be a good starting place.

Thank you for your time,
Bruce

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@ those interested in direct electrolysis without a metal catalyst I have this for you:

"The unit does not use "normal brute force" electrolysis when operating in high efficiency mode. It relies mainly on a chemical reaction that takes place between the electrolyte used and the metal plates, which is maintained by electrical energy applied and stimulated into higher efficiency by the application of multiple harmonic resonances which help to "tickle" the molecules apart. I coined the term "electrochemical reaction" to describe the process and I called the chamber an "electrochemical reactor". I used multiple cells in series to lower the voltage per cell and limit the current flow in order to reduce water vapor production. It relies on the large surface area of the total number of cells to get the required volume of fuel vapor output. In my first prototype of this design, I used a custom built controller/driver that gave me a lot of adjustability so I could experiment with multiple frequencies, voltages, and waveforms individually and compare performance. The result was a pattern of 3 interwoven square waves rich in harmonics that produced optimal efficiency. "

Let me guess...hmm..Resonant frequency of the plates, Harmonic and intermodulation.  He does not say, but that would be my first try!! LOL  RF signal!!  Let me reword something...I  KNOW FOR SURE that this person did this.  I can't tell you how I know at this time, I might later.  But this is TPU tech applied to water.  Trust me when I say that.  You need RF signal generator, small amount of electricity, amplifier of RF signal.  Measure the Resonant Frequency of your plates (like a speaker!) Double that for the second frequency, this is the harmonic.  COMBINE the two for the third.  input to your plates and ....  ;D   

The cat is out of the bag!!  LOL

Read his story here:
http://www.freeenergynews.com/Directory/Transportation/Bob_Boyce/#Part%20II

A public thank you to my newest source for this info.!!!!

(Is anyone starting to see a pattern here besides me?  I hope so!)  ;)

Thank you for your time,
Bruce

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« Last Edit: May 24, 2007, 08:25:00 AM by pese »

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Hello,

Just like to react to some things said here earlier. Off course you can't replace aluminium or other materials that are being used up in a chemical reaction! They are crucial to the reaction.

The patent is about mimcing the catalyst (a catalyst that isn't being used up to be more specific).

This being said it might be possible the replace the NaOH as it is not being used up when producing Hydrogen from aluminium. As NaOH is composed of different components itself you probablt need differnt frequencies te simulate the different components?

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Robert

 

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