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Author Topic: RE: For starters , Read this first, compiled PDF file of Steven Mark postings  (Read 32988 times)

kokomoj0

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Ok guys i read the pdf, every word from top to bottom including the several repeats and here is my conclusion.

But first let me tell you a bit about my background.

I have a background in the inverter industry in which I have worked with and done some r&d with 6 step, pwm, and compound invertors.   For hobbies I have designed several high power radio transmitters, (linears or kickers if you will) both transistor and tube up to 2kw in size.   Audio has been my main hobby since i was a child where i have designed more speaker systems than I can remember as well as my own electronics as in crossovers, parametric eq's, as well as graphic eq's, compressors, expanders, and quite a long list of other play toys. 

In my very small time private business I design mostly interfacing controls, and i designed mostly automated machinery as well as wrote firmware etc.

Anyway that is a bit of my background both on a professional and person level.

Hydrogen is another story, however i have an extensive understanding of harmonics as well as invertors and audio etc.

After spending several hours cutting and pasting what marks said i have found, (to be kind), several discrepancies in his theory and began to have several doubts about the validity of his claims.   Well i dd not want to simply dismiss this so i went the next step researched all the names he throws around to do a little snooping and the only one that turned out to be traceable was Roland Schinzinger who died of old age in feb 2004 so we will not be asking him any questions.  From what I can tell from my research is that the rest are all red herrings?  Maybe I am wrong, if i am i will be happy to revise this thread and frankly i hope someone can correct me because with all my heart and soul i want to believe.

So you all can make up your own minds as to this tpu and i certainly do not want to dissuade anyone from working on it but to be very clear this is the only device that I hve found on this site that I am hard pressed to invest my time in.  Others really rock and I love the work y0ou guys are doing here its awesome.

Then i was hit even harder across the face with this one:
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THE STEVEN MARK DEVICE - KNOWN DATA FROM AU (EMAIL)

Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 16:33:27 +0800
From: Raymond Dale
Reply-To: rayd@perth.design.net.au
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: pgb@padrak.com
Subject: Stevens Coil

Dear Patrick,

Very sorry for the unavoidable delay on Stevens coil information.

I hope you will find it useful.

INVENTOR PROFILE
14 February 1997

NAME:
Steven Mark a.k.a

DATE OF BIRTH:
Jan. 30,1954, Pennysylvania

ADDRESS:
7435 Hummingbird Lane. Anaheim Hills, CA 92808.

INVENTION:
Over Unity, solid state electrical output for lighting, no apparent input, appears toroidal in geometry or similar to a Hendershot Generator, will not demonstrate device running motors. Video tape shows three devices of different sizes.

HISTORY/ITEMS OF INTEREST:
1. Overheard to say while drinking "Well what if I do have batteries in it? It?s still better than anyone else can do."

2. Claims his uncle works for the U.S. Navy.

3. Fantasises about Royalty, claims his grandfather was an Admiral for the Russian Navy.

4. Australian, Japanese and Eastern block nations have attempted to negotiate for the technology.

5. Claims to have built his first device 15 years ago, claims to have worked as foreman for Rolls Royce, also that he was the youngest technician ever hired by RCA.

6. Claims to have a BSME degree from a university in Pennsylvania, but no record can be found.

7. Has been involved in sound technology for home entertainment, his 3D sound system was found to have enhanced effects due to hidden speakers in the walls of the room used for demonstrations.

8. Has attempted to broker numerous inventions, some of them stolen by others such as E225, a chemical used to break up oil spills. This was reported stolen by Marcus Langer-Curry, an Austrian who claimed to be a German.

9. Has demo'ed the sound technology to Hollywood celebrities such as Priscilla Presley and Arnold Schwarzenegger as well as to the President of ICM, International Creative Management, one of the largest firms
representing actors in the entertainment business.

Tom Pollack, President of Universal Studios, also saw the sound technology. When he attempted to have his chief sound engineer examine the technology, Mark refused to talk to him or any other engineer.

The energy technology was demonstrated to the President of Toyota USA, Mark refused to allow Toyota to physicists to test the device.

10. Is expert at faking heart attacks etc when an engineer is about to hook up test equipment, thus killing the deal.

11. Monthly budget last 7 years.
$30K per month for,
4 Cadillacs
body guard
housekeeper
$5000/month rent on mansion.

12. Has stated that "The name of the game is to find the investor with the most money."

13. Associates
Bill Cavenaugh - Lawyer
Doug Cavenaugh
Paul G Stemm, Universal Energy Corporation, Bank Underwriter, Lawyer, barred from doing business in the U.S. Lives with his girlfriend in the Philippines, has filed bankruptcy numerous times, wife and two children live in Irvine, CA, has not practised law in 20 years. Peninsula Court Bldg, Suit 413, Metro Manila Phone 011-63-2-810-9284/8945358. Ah
8193856, 8735 Paseo de Roxas, 1200 Makati, Metro Manila
Jan Oliver - Scottsdale, AZ, sends cash payments, represents; Steve Talent, Miami billionaire
Larry Saylor, formerly with Delta Airlines Howard Frantom - former president of LA Cellular, lost big bucks investing
Rob Alexander, CEO Extreme Technologies
Brian Collins (Perth Australia) 61-9-4704656 mobile 0412 922803 David Doleshal 1-800-920-4292

14. Other Companies, ventures, some based in Vancouver, BC International
PCBC
Spheric Audio Labatories, subsidiary of PCBC Portacom Wireless
Extreme Technologies, subsidiary of Portico Dwyer Corporation,
incorporated in Turks and Caicos Islands (Netherlands), with bank account in Hong Kong

15. Typical mode of operation:
Finds investors, does demo, shows problem such as the device won't work when upside down or it over heats, all of which can be solved for an additional million. When investors get impatient, Mark kills the deal through stock manipulations, corporate politicking working the investors
against each other by lying to one about the other and so on. Eventually the deal gets so screwed up the investors go away and Mark is looking for another investor.

Regards
Raymond Dale
Perth Australia

Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 14:59:44 +0800
From: Raymond Dale
Reply-To: rayd@perth.design.net.au
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: pgb@padrak.com
Subject: Stevens Coil

Dear Patrick,
To your question - Can I post it on the INE web site?
Yes you may.
Regards
Raymond Dale

Return to the INE Main Page

www.padrak.com/ine/SMARK.html
May 23, 1997.

REF: http://www.padrak.com/ine/SMARK.html


As I said I certainly do not wish to discourage anyone from working with the tpu however I do want to let you all know that i have done my best to qualify the names he references, where I have no luck with exception to Dr. Roland Who admits that that he did not have time to thoroughly test the unit because steven marks had to leave.

I posted this info so you can go into this where I highly recommend that you do your own research and decide for yourself before making huge investments of time and money.

Sincerely,
Kokomojo

Note: if anyone here finds this information to be untrue I will modify the post accordingly or retract it completely. 
Otherwise I feel you are all a great inventors and experimentors and I feel it is my obligation to at least present this to you for your own examination and let the chips fall where they may.



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Kokomojo,

And Raymond Dale who wrote this email 5 years ago is who?  (p.s.  It does have a battery!  LOL)

And SM's interest in baiting all these people on this forum for all of this time is?  His motive is? 

I never heard him ask anyone here for a dime. 

He spent all that time writing some incredible truths why?

He wants what from us?
The engineering reports are real.

On the demo did you not see him plug in a drill?

The tpu would have played havoc with a coiled motor.  When ours is working, it will not run a motor either.  At least not up close.

I say rubbish.  Even if he did try to milk the invention in the days of old, that is not proof it does not work.  I do not care about the character flaws of SM.  I want to know...will it work.  I say yes, and Otto and others are getting the proof.

No fault of yours, you are trying to "protect" people.  But really, people have been slandering SM for a long time, and gnostic dealt with that.

Just go to peswiki and search "Steven Mark" and you can read all about it.

See ya, I've got a TPU to build!   ;)

kokomoj0

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Kokomojo,

The tpu would have played havoc with a coiled motor.  When ours is working, it will not run a motor either.  At least not up close.
See ya, I've got a TPU to build!   ;)

with all my heart and soul I hope you are correct!

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http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,712.msg4150.html#msg4150

its only the tpu that i do not have faith in.  as i said in another post somewhere even the videos looked rigged to me.  i apologize but no matter what i look into about this guy i keep finding zeros.  As far as the other experiments on this site they rock!  Like i said i do not want to discourage anyone from playing with the tpu, however based on my knowledge i found several errors that he made in his written presentation.  i prefer correct data and facts to hyperbole.

so i wll reserve my judgement for now.

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stevenmarktpu.pdf (integrate) :)

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"My friend who is a science professor at a university here where I live told me something which made me react in a positive way.
He said that during his class he challenges his science and engineering students to attempt to explain how my technology could be faked and if some student does explain satisfactorily then they will be rewarded by not being required to take the next examination.
He told me to reflect on the fact that out of a thousand bright college students absolutely no one has even offered a serious guess as to how what they see in the demonstration tapes could be faked.
He went on to say that it is all fine and well for people to shout fake and fraud, but the burden of proof is on them... and they all have failed, haven't they.
My friend, everything you have seen on the videos is the absolute truth so help me God."

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http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,712.msg4150.html#msg4150

its only the tpu that i do not have faith in.  as i said in another post somewhere even the videos looked rigged to me.  i apologize but no matter what i look into about this guy i keep finding zeros.  As far as the other experiments on this site they rock!  Like i said i do not want to discourage anyone from playing with the tpu, however based on my knowledge i found several errors that he made in his written presentation.  i prefer correct data and facts to hyperbole.

so i wll reserve my judgement for now.

Guess it is time to bring this up again for the newer guys.  Take a look at Patent 6015476 and look for similarities.  Read the wording carefully and see if there might be some relationships?  Words like "magnetic enhancement", "rotating magnetic field", "four coils, each having numerous turns, formed in loops having the rough shape of a bay windowframe" (see pic and shape of coils), etc....

And the patent was filed in 1998 (around same time as videos) and a guy named Steve Marks is one of the listed inventors.  No, I do not think this is exactly a TPU, but maybe it is similar or maybe just a coincidence ?
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It's coincidence. "Steve Marks" is not our man.

In addition, according to what SM has said, the patents are for the control circuits only, NOT the coil arrangements.

It's time people stopped reaching to see something that isn't really there, and this includes equating Steorn's and Gunderson's patents to the TPU as well.

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kokomoj0

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http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT6015476

Kool..

Thats a good start!  Unfortunately once someone has lost my trust it takes more than a plasma steering wheel to bring me back into the fold.   

Tesla on the other hand imo is a god and there is nothing that man could tell me that i would not believe sight unseen, but in this case i am from missouri and will not be so easily convinced after noting all the anomolies in his pdf. 

There is nothing in that patent that would convince me that some con artist did not simply pick a name out of the patent office and see a chance to snag investors, con them and then stay out of reach from the court system as the aussies claim.

Marks claims he has control circuit patents in one of his videos.  Patents are not secret yet no one has shown the existance of any! 

Now if you can come up with the control circuit patents or pending patents with a "marks" name attached to it in a patent office somewhere in the world then I will be convinced.  (as long as it is not obviously the electronics to control the steering wheel in the patent you provided above).

The way i see it this is the business end of getting to the bottom of things and we have not reached a satisfactory point with your post of this pdf, but i thank you for it as i may consider its possible application to control the plasma in IH's cold fusion reactor project once i get that up and running and if i have acceptable performance etc etc...

So with that I hope you can provide something for me to look forward too.

kokomojo

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He said that during his class he challenges his science and engineering students to attempt to explain how my technology could be faked 

I absolutely disagree with this methodology.  The burden of proof does not lie on my or anyone elses shoulders to "prove it does not work"!  How do you prove a "doesnt"?  Its a logical fallacy.

The burden of proof lies squarely on marks shoulders to in fact prove it does work!  How do you do that?  Give investigators everything they need to to thoughoughly test it.  Even schinzer claimed that he could not test it thoughoughly as there was not enough time and marks had to go.

If it were my unit i would be awake for 3 days straight proving it out and cancel all my other appointments to take advantage of dr schinzer  availiability rather than sqaunder that opportinuty.

i will not be sucked in by pie in the sky hyperbole quite that easily.

As i said in a previous post lets take a looksie at those patents he claims to have filed on his secret controller if that in itself is not a contradiction in terms!

Anyway for the sake of all of us and the above unity believers i hope we can sort this out in a manner that is equitable and proves itself out.

If patents have been applied for they are not secret and therefore open to the public review, at least in general terms.



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Again, the name is Mark not Marks.

Even if apparent controller patents are found with a "Steve Marks" as the inventor, they won't be for the TPU.

It is unknown under what name the actual TPU controller patents are filed under. That information was never provided, and since the entire system is broken into several patents, it is clear that whoever filed them, does not want anyone to know the numbers and put it all together.

Presumably, this would be too good of a clue as to how the TPU works, and obviously UEC wants to keep this secret.

So in summary, pursue that other patent if you like, but it is not related to the Steven Mark TPU.

Darren

kokomoj0

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Again, the name is Mark not Marks.

Even if apparent controller patents are found with a "Steve Marks" as the inventor, they won't be for the TPU.

It is unknown under what name the actual TPU controller patents are filed under. That information was never provided, and since the entire system is broken into several patents, it is clear that whoever filed them, does not want anyone to know the numbers and put it all together.

Presumably, this would be too good of a clue as to how the TPU works, and obviously UEC wants to keep this secret.

So in summary, pursue that other patent if you like, but it is not related to the Steven Mark TPU.

Darren

actually i am more interested in hydrogen and generators are a do when bored thing..   according to the patent its: Inventors: Ross D. Schlueter, Steve Marks so you got me hanging.

So the tpu is a secret then?  Sorry but i do not get it, if it is such a secret then why bother tossing us the table scraps?  That truely does not make sense unless he is trying to pump his own ego up with "look haw smart i am and how dumb we are"  type of approach than it would make sense.

Hey the way i look at it if he is legit then there are patents or patents pending somewhere in the world and if this all took place in 1998 they would be long since approved or rejected by now.   So no patents = fraud otherwise patents maybe it is real, ytb after seeing what is provided.

The words "i filed patents for the controller circuits" came out of his mouth not mine i just expect him to lay it out on the table if in fact it "is" real.   hope it is but i am not going to hold my breath.....

 

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