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Author Topic: Has Newman lost it?  (Read 3673 times)

Offline Thedane

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Has Newman lost it?
« on: May 16, 2007, 10:33:41 PM »
Joseph Newman has just released a new video on google:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6157958993884349118&q=joseph+newman

I just watched it, and must say that it's a waste of time - unfortunately.

Short description:
He has two pumps - one is run by five 12V batteries (60 Volts) and a regular motor.
The other pump is driven by his engine powered by twenty 12V batteries (240 Volts).

He states that he has efficiencies in the 1000's, yet his invention/engine pumps water more slowly than the normal motor does.
He also runs the regular motor for a much longer time than his invention.

So: Regular motor pumps much more water longer than his invention.
No real magic here.

He also keeps talking about amps, amps, amps, amps, amps, ......
Like voltage (watts) never had anything to say  ;D ;D ;D

In the end he asks (desperately) for money to develop the technology futher - beware of scam!


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Has Newman lost it?
« on: May 16, 2007, 10:33:41 PM »

Offline hartiberlin

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Re: Has Newman lost it?
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2007, 02:29:20 AM »
Hi All,
I just now had a look twice at the video and here is my analysis:

I must say, the demonstration was a little bit poorly setup.

He shouldn?t have used a good efficiency 3 HP Grainger motor
as he used it for pumping the red ( blood) water !

His own motor turned the other pump more slowly, so it was
not a good comparison, so his points did not get accross many people
and this demo probably again did more harm to him than to support him.

But let us get the facts straight:

The red water pump motor used 5 x 12 Volts Batteries in series, giving it about
60 Volts DC input.
The motor draw about 10 to 20 amps,
as can be seen in minute 59:40 on the video,
so let?s just say 15 amps all the time integrated over time.

This is a power input of about 60 Volts x 15 amps= 900 Watts.

With this 900 Watts he pumps a lot of red water as could be seen.

Probably 2 or 3 times more than with his own machine.

2. His own motor uses 20 x 12 Volts batteries in series ,so  the input voltage is
about 250 Volts DC.
His motor draws about -1 to 4 amps in pulses,
so if you integrate the pulses
over time, lets just say 1.5 amps positive input current.

So it uses an input power of about 250 Volts x 1.5 amps= 375 Watts.

You can see, that he is also pumping less water with it.
This is clear, cause he is converting less input power to mechanical
energy.
We can clearly see, that the Newman motor is not that mechanically
overunity, otherwise if he really would have 1000 % efficiency on the
mechanical site, he would pump much more water than the other pump.

But this is not the case, it runs slower than the other pump.

I expected this, as I have seen in my own studies with my Newman machines,
that the overunity power is not on the mechanical output site,
but on the electrical spike energy outputsite.

So the efficiency from the Newman motor goes into the electrical site of his circuit,
that means that he is able to recharge the batteries and that they even raise the voltage
over time, as could be seen in this video.

As Dr.Peter Lindeman says also with the Bedini systems:
the Overunity output happens right inside the batteries.

This is also what we see here.
Furthermore I guess I have found the explanation for this:

It comes from burning up the graphite electrodes versus the copper electrode
at the commutator of the Newman machine.

This is just a direct carbon conversion into electrical energy via an oxidation process !

Thus he converts the commutator electrode materials into electrical energy.

Have a look at minute 50:22 in the video, where you can see the big sparks there.

It surely burns up the commutator materials and oxidizes them.

Until now, this process was overlooked, but it is the main
effect in the Nemwan motors and also in other overunity systems like
Lutec and others.

Have a look for more on this effect to:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2341.0.html

There it is all explained.

So all in all I would say, this demo of Newman was a bid
badly organized and not really thought through, cause people
don?t understand the fact, that after 30 minutes the batteries
from the red water pump were almost discharged... although they
still showed 59 Volts...
Also as this pump pumped more water than his motor ,
naive and not technical people
would have thought, that this red water pump was a lot better...

So this demo was not good at all.

Also he should have had a display panel, where he should have had all
analog meters hooked up together, so one could see all the time
the voltage and amps displayed in realtime and not just hook
up a digital meter manually once in a while , where you could barely see anything...


Also now, as we know the effect of the direct conversion of carbon
into energy via the commutator, it is now much easier to scale this effect up
also with smaller devices, not needing a 7500 pounds motor !

Regards, Stefan.



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Re: Has Newman lost it?
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2007, 02:20:07 AM »
Newman needs a PR Specialist to work for him.  Many times his demonstrations appear poor.  I do not think he is keen on how he is percieved by others due to his enthusiasm.

He Should HAVE LEFT the mechanical advantage (8:1 ratio) in the video it would have shown a real comparison between the two motors.  Also if he were to keep the coil from COOLING down too much he would not blow his diodes (or wouldnt need them 8^0 ).

I however have witnessed two working replicas of a newman energy machine.

I have also seen two on YouTube.

h20Enthusiast


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Re: Has Newman lost it?
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2007, 02:20:07 AM »
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