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Title: All in 1 turbine generator
Post by: innovation_station on May 16, 2007, 07:05:49 PM
just drew this on parer today

it is my turbine with plastic discs and there 5 sawblades there are 10 magnetic discs between the saw blades it is a 3 stage filsinger turbine for high speed and high pressure should hit extreamly high speed i have no idea how fast it will spin but i can tell you if built properly and driven with the proper pressure it may just set some new speed records!! remember if pressure is almost limitless then out put speed should be almost limitless it will spin it will have a large amount of weight to it and it will produce a great deal of power both mechnical and electrical i will be postindg a drawing soon of the turbine generator flywheel it all sits on 2 frictionless berings and my turbines are almost frictionless so almost no friction and the power extraction big huge copper coils around the entire casing of my turbine  i will use verry strong neos so my coils could be a little distance away from my magnets

what do you all think of this??
Title: Re: All in 1 turbine generator
Post by: innovation_station on May 16, 2007, 10:19:03 PM
here is the corel drawing i just finished
Title: Re: All in 1 turbine generator
Post by: Low-Q on May 16, 2007, 10:42:35 PM
Hi. A 3D model might work better. I cannot see how this should work. Try Google ScetchUp. A nice free 3D drawing tool.

Br.

Vidar
Title: Re: All in 1 turbine generator
Post by: innovation_station on May 17, 2007, 02:53:01 PM
hello all

@ vidar this is a huge generator  the coils will go outside of the case and it will require much copper wire the more the better backtorque it will have some but if i only take a little power off of it then it will not too much this is just like any other generator but it is for high speed the pressure required to drive this turbine is quite high stage 1 is around 1500 to 3000 psi stage 2 is 3 - 5000 and stage 3 is over 5000 psi stage 1 is the 10" sawblade stage 2 is the 7.75" sawblades and stage 3 is the 4.75 " sawblades there will be 5 nozzels in this turbine once you get this thing to speed it will take some time to slow it back down or it will take only a little input pressure to keep it at its high speed rotation and if it weighs a 100 lbs or so i think that we can overcome the backtorque

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Title: Re: All in 1 turbine generator
Post by: Low-Q on May 17, 2007, 06:39:25 PM
A great mass that rotates takes time to slow down. However, the energy you put in to make it spin, does not automaticly mean that you can take out more power than you use to maintain the speed. A rotating generator with huge mass, as this is, will then work like a regular capacitor. A super huge capacitor takes much current (High PSI in your device) and long time to charge, and it takes probably very little energy to keep the voltage level even over time. And it also takes time to discharge the capacitor if the load is small. But still, you have to put in what you take out. Your generator will in other words not be OU - if that was the goal. The great mass in your generator will help you great in cases you want to pulll out huge amount of energy in short time, but then the generator will loose rotating energy due to the back torque. Because mass is irrelevant to calculate back torque. If you talk about relative back torque, it is seen in comparison to the mass in the generator. Still again, the backtorque is the same if the energy output is the same regardless of the mass.

Br.

Vidar