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Mechanical free energy devices => mechanic => Topic started by: hartiberlin on May 16, 2007, 03:54:17 AM
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Hi All,
this is what Rick Friedrich just posted on his list:
This is my latest Self-runner setup with full pictures and video.
Exhaustive details. Don't ask for any more. If you ask I know you
didn't read all the details. Don't ask to see it as it WAS only
intended for encouragement. Once you pass the test here you can make
all your SSG setups do this. Now you will understand fully why I have
my policies and why I made you go through here first. The time has come
to show this all, and John has promised to show this even easier.
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Bedini_SG:Self-Runner
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Bedini_SG:Self-runner:Details
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Bedini_SG:Self-runner:Window
Please see what you think of the pages and tell anyone you want.
You may replicate this and discuss this on this list, but not in the
form of asking anymore details about THIS setup. Build your own and
discuss it here. BUT FIRST FINISH THE TESTS HERE. I have put my heart
and soul to show you guys all this at great sacrifice. Please return
the favor and show what you can do considerately.
Let the games begin. It is all over now.
Rick
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Hy,
Sorry for my bad english, i not understand all, but why this motor is said "self running" and why this result is different of the Bedini (SG) result ?
Now this morning almost a day later I just checked right now at 7:00AM and the volts are at 12.73 and 12.96. The motor WITHOUT ANY RECOVERY to the front end has increased. It is tiny but it has done a lot of mechanical work and charges another battery.
That meant the primary would keep charging itself along with the other two batteries charging indefinitely ?
I have understant that the Bedini SG or SSG already do that ? I mistaking ?
Thanks
Molux
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Yes, it seems the primary battery now also charges
with Rick?s setup.
This was different in the Bedini systems, as there the primary battery discharged,
but charged other batteries.
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Hy,
Thanks for your "enlightments", it's ? pretty good news !
Perhaps ? very big news !
I hope lots replications quickly appears..
I just Order my material to build ? simple SG, but this setup interting me, perhaps it's better to go step by step but it poke my curiosity...
Molux
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I all,
This motor is amazing, J.Bedini apparently valid it 'itself ! Contrary of Mike Replication, John Bedini say that Rick Friedrich replication it's a real advanced low cost engine.
It's so amazing, the Bedini's technologie community do ? big step with this informations.
We have to replic it ! When more than one replication exist, this "theorie" can't be ignored !
Do replications !
Molux
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Hello,
I have completly read more and more time the Rick schematic publications and d?tails.Due to by bad english, i dont undertand all and i have many question before build this replication, can someone help me to clarify that ?
Sorry for my bad english, and perhaps stupids questions, but i want to understood
1) - Where is the big window coil around the wheel ont the schematic ?
Does it "optionnal" ? does the this motor is self runner without it ?
2) - What does it mean: 4 stands #18 wire @100' ?
I know AWG for #18, but what is "stands" and what mean "@" ?
3) - Why Rick speak about "4th" wire ?
How many wire are in bottom cole ?
4) - What mean Wood and Buss ?
Wood be translated in french by something like "peace of tree" but Buss whont be translated
5) - can you confirm for S1 ?
As show on a picture, S1 seems to be ? very simple switch build with 2 peace or R60 and a copper pipe. Apparently the copper pipe named "buss".
Apparently S1 be placed a 1/2 way between two magnets after the magnet clockwith.
6) - How does work S2 ?
How does it close contact with a peace of wood ?
What is the role of wood ?
7) - Does S1 and S2 be "manipulate" by the same copper pipe name "Buss"
8) - S1 and S2 are 180 out of phase. Wood opened S2 before and after buss closes. What does mean this sentence ?
i dont understand very well this sentence.
9) - 5 mil gap difference between each rod and buss.
5 mil does mean 5 millimeters ? What mean "gap" ?
10)- Under some picture i see that the wire on the main coil are not ? "
enamelled copper wire", it look like common electric wire with a plastic "sheath", can you enlight me ?
I have probleme to understand the S1 and S2 work, if someone can help me.
Thanks a lot for you reading, thanks in advance for four help
Molux
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Hi Molux,
Rick is just pulsing his primary battery with the high voltage pulses
from the upper coils which went via the graetz bridge rectifier and then
via the mechanical switch at the side of the wheel,
which makes this clicking noise !
Watch the videos !
Then it all gets clear !
The other things are standard Bedini circuits !
Regards, Stefan.
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Hy Sir Hartiberlin,
Thanks ? lot to help me, i collect all the information here and under SG Workgroup 1.
So for someone that have bad english like me this perhaps enlight you:
The "triggers" of switch, mounted on the side of whell (placement very important)
(http://www.syscoil.org/medias/images/illustrations/self_runner/self_runner_switchs.jpg)
This is S1
(http://www.syscoil.org/medias/images/illustrations/self_runner/self_runner_s1.jpg)
This is S2 (not use on vid?o)
(http://www.syscoil.org/medias/images/illustrations/self_runner/self_runner_s2.jpg)
If i look at the schematic here (From PESwiki, thanks to Rick):
(http://peswiki.com/images/c/c3/Self-runner1.JPG)
i see:
- S1 that flow current from top coil to primary batterie when it shorly close
- S2 that can disconnect electronique form charging and primary battery
Can you say to me:
- Why Rick stop to use the S2 ?
- I this under the vid?o S2 be alway close ? it's true ?
Can you give me the light to the S2 role and function ?
Molux
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Hi Molux,
S1 is the Buss bar as you have shown in your picture.
That is right.
It is used to pulse once every revolution the High voltage pulses
from the graetz bridge to the primary battery.
S2 is only used to switch On or Off the whole device !
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Hy Hartiberlin,
Thanks for you confirmations, and i'm confused to ask a stupid question about S2.
I'm focalized on the wood and the S2 switch and i have lost the basic of schematic... 1000 excuses....
So S1 control backpoping battery and S2 (optionnal) is to upgrade charging power and wheel speed but this engine work without it.
A schematic instead of long spitch:
(http://www.syscoil.org/medias/images/illustrations/self_runner/self_runner_contact_graph.jpg)
A french interpr?tation of this motor can be view here:
http://www.syscoil.org/index.php?cmd=nav&cid=107 (http://www.syscoil.org/index.php?cmd=nav&cid=107)
Another Thank for read me HartiBerlin.
Molux
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Hi Molux,
Your diagram is correct.
The purpose of S2 is to disconnect the primary battery from the SSG circuit when S1 is pulsed (or back-popped) into the primary battery. In this mode the primary battery goes through a discharge-charge-discharge-charge-etc. cycle, but only for a fraction of time during one revolution. For example, S2 opens for 100mS and S1 closes for 50mS.
The amount of time that S2 is opened does not affect the speed of the wheel because of the flywheel effect. In fact the motor should speed up because of the large surge of voltage momentarily going into the primary battery, which in turn increases the charging of the secondary battery.
I also believe (just my opinion) that when S2 is opened it prevents >1000V going into the SSG circuit which may damage the components. I think this is why Rick has rated all of the components at 1000V.
John
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Hello,
Thanks Gandalf for thoses pr?cisions.
I agree about the > 1000 volts flows cutting to the circuit.
I spend 1 week to ask to a french trader from Lincoln company but nobody answers....
It's so hard to find R60 in france..
Molux
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Hi Molux, you can probably also just use transformer core iron metal
or just a few iron nails
or also ferrite rods...
It is just there to make a larger L inductance !
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Hy,
Thanks for your suggestions Harti, perhaps i have to do that.
Under our small french forum someone say that:
"...You can do a very well core with 70% of nanocristalyn Fe304 powder and 30% of
composite resin...this material have great magnetic coeff... 5 Kg of Fe304 powder cost ~40?..."
What do you think about ? Did you heard that on a Workgroup ?
I know John Bedini build his core with R60, but if i cant find it i try with some ferrite or other...
For information, R60 look like this:
(http://www.syscoil.org/medias/images/illustrations/materiel/lincolnr60.jpg)
Molux
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Molux,
As another option you can get some regular arc welding rods (the thinner the better) and just belt all of the flux material off them with a hammer. I tried this while I was waiting for my R60 rods and it worked fine.
John
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Hy All,
Thanks Gandalf for this suggestion, i think i follow your councils. (R60 come after)
moreover you try this, it's great for me; thanks to share your knowledge with me.
I also say:
Thanks all international Bedini's Community gn0sis, overunity, bedini's workgroup and others... for Help me, you respond to all my "silly" questions....
big THANKS
Molux
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Hi All,
I'm building smaller rotor version, I got distracted by other projects but now, i'm going to concentrate on this replication. Next step I'm building timing wheel for s1 and s2.
Also people buy Johns second video, one of the best things youll have in your hand, teaches you alot.
Can buy from Ricks site:- http://truthinheart.com/order1.html
New DVD ENERGY FOM THE VACUUM
Or Tom beardons website:-
http://www.cheniere.org/ energy from the vacuum part 2
do a google search at google video for ssg motor, , there's 3 prelimary videos of my motor:- http://video.google.com.au/videosearch?q=ssg+motor, they are:-
-windows motor with SSG updated cct
-windows motor with updated single transistor ssg cct
-solid state battery charging operation of update ssg cct and windows ...
here ive attached latest pic without timing wheel:-
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MRD10
Looking good, keep it coming
Regards
Sean.
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Here's a video I took of my replication of the SSG self-runner. It's
too early to tell yet if this is truly a self-runner because I
haven't had too much time to test it out properly yet.
Also, there are some fine tuning adjustments I need to do.
I just wanted to get this out there to encourage others that may be
replicating as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEzOX10j-D4
P.S. One small error in the video - the rotor is spinning at over
300RPM not 300km/h (thank goodness)
John.
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Here is the latest great video from Rick Friedrich.
Very well done, Rick!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2778867219155907080
And here is his website with a fewmore infos:
http://rpmgt.org/SSG.html
Regards, Stefan.
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Ooo, using a 'kick' to charge a battery :D Maybe we can replace that transistor with a tube? :o
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Did anybody
replicate the results from Rick Friedrich yet and
can constantly recharge his batteries without any
other energy source ?
Many thanks.
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Dear Friends
which is the difference between Rich Friedrich setup and Mike setup?
Mike: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1988.0.html
Rich: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2361.0.html
Since next month I will have the opportunity to build and test free energy device, which the better one?
Which have more documentation?
Have a sense build also "basic" School Girl or is better start with above enhanced version?
Thanks
Giuseppe
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Hi Giuseppe,
the Mike motor setup was probably a fake with a hidden battery or is not yet
understood.
So please try to first replicate the Rick Friedrich setup.
As I understand it, he also offers kits, so you can buy parts from him.
Good luck !
Regards, Stefan.
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Hi Stephan and All,
I've built a set up following John Kron scheme but with a 24" wheel (the one with a relay for S1 and S2 and reed switches) but so far no major results. Only once I had the load battery apparently recharged : it was very down when starting the test and was dancing below the 10V and one hour later it was swinging steadly above 10.2V but the current had not changed. Moreover the rest volts (at least 10h later) were higher than the readind before starting the test.
The problem is that so far I was unable to replicate this effect and therefore I have classified it as strange but conventional.
Ciao,
Guido
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I been hearin that John Bedini got hisself together with Tom Barden an they got this girl name Marsha goin around and closin down all these websites with the Bedini stuff on there. I guess John Bedini ownes all the patents and copywrites on free energy an he sold it to a oil company name of chaneer I guess. I herd panacea university got closed down too. Jest a word for the whise!
OldInventor
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@ oldinventor
I heard from a friend that his uncles friends mother who knews a guy that knows it from a person speeking in a bar after some drinks that ... ;)
oh common, please give facts for this. Bedinis mostsaying websites (icehouse) are already online. I don't belive that oil companys are interestet in bedinis stuff.
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Im interested in peoples thoughts on how he times an alternating pole rotor. Do you think the coil is in atraction through one wind and repulsion on the other, or are the firings only on one pole? Or does attraction and repulsion occur on each firing?
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@ Stefan and anyone:
I am building my first Bedini motor and once running, I will try to replicate Rick's set-up. I have a question about the copper coated R-60 welding rods. (I can get them locally) Since they are copper coated, is there any advantage/disadvantage to soldering them together for the core? Is it better just to stuff them all in the opening?
Also, has anyone attempted the SSG with two coils such that one coil (non-bifilar) is the trigger coil and the other is the power coil? Maybe placed 180 degrees apart around the wheel. We have been playing with the bifilar coils over at the earth battery experiments topic and I know they have some very strange and interesting properties. I just don't see how those properties help in this application. I have watched many videos and read many writings on Bedini's device and I have never seen this addressed. (Pardon my ignorance)
But, as I said here, and elsewhere, I will replicate first and get a working model and then experiment. I just didn't want to try something others had that didn't work. Thanks. PS Thanks for posting the video link. This is a great video.
Bill
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Bill dont bother with the "self runner" configured as above. Rick himself said it will eventually kill the battery and was only intended for encouragement. For a true self runner you would be better off studying Bedinis free energy machine. Note how the switching occurs, one pulse out one pulse in. It has been discussed at length on other forums.
As far as using a pick up coil that is separate from a trigger coil this can be done, your rotor needs to have all magnets perfectly spaced however. It is worth experimenting with. Also check out circuit setup for pulse motors, hoptoad has made a good page @ totallyamped.net/adams or something like that, theres links in the thread.
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Bill I would say dont bother with the "self runner" configured as above. Rick himself said it will eventually kill the battery and was only intended for encouragement. For a true self runner you would be better off studying Bedinis free energy machine. Note how the switching occurs, one pulse out one pulse in. It has been discussed at length on other forums.
As far as using a pick up coil that is separate from a trigger coil this can be done, your rotor needs to have all magnets perfectly spaced however. It is worth experimenting with. Also check out circuit setup for pulse motors, hoptoad has made a good page @ totallyamped.net/adams or something like that, theres links in the thread.
and dont solder rods together, you want them to be separate, check out erwins page too, google bedini schematic and it'll pop up if you havent already
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@ Ren:
Thank you. I will follow up and read the links you supplied. Good to know about not soldering the core rods. Thanks.
Bill