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hartiberlin

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New selfcharging Bedini setup from Rick Friedrich
« on: May 16, 2007, 03:54:17 AM »
Hi All,
this is what Rick Friedrich just posted on his list:


This is my latest Self-runner setup with full pictures and video.
Exhaustive details. Don't ask for any more. If you ask I know you
didn't read all the details. Don't ask to see it as it WAS only
intended for encouragement. Once you pass the test here you can make
all your SSG setups do this. Now you will understand fully why I have
my policies and why I made you go through here first. The time has come
to show this all, and John has promised to show this even easier.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Bedini_SG:Self-Runner

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Bedini_SG:Self-runner:Details

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Bedini_SG:Self-runner:Window

Please see what you think of the pages and tell anyone you want.

You may replicate this and discuss this on this list, but not in the
form of asking anymore details about THIS setup. Build your own and
discuss it here. BUT FIRST FINISH THE TESTS HERE. I have put my heart
and soul to show you guys all this at great sacrifice. Please return
the favor and show what you can do considerately.

Let the games begin. It is all over now.

Rick

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Re: New selfcharging Bedini setup from Rick Friedrich
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2007, 08:55:24 PM »
Hy,

Sorry for my bad english, i not understand all, but why this motor is said "self running" and why this result is different of the Bedini (SG) result ?

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Now this morning almost a day later I just checked right now at 7:00AM and the volts are at 12.73 and 12.96. The motor WITHOUT ANY RECOVERY to the front end has increased. It is tiny but it has done a lot of mechanical work and charges another battery.
That meant the primary would keep charging itself along with the other two batteries charging indefinitely ?

I have understant that the Bedini SG or SSG already do that ? I mistaking ?

Thanks

Molux
« Last Edit: May 16, 2007, 09:18:28 PM by molux »

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Re: New selfcharging Bedini setup from Rick Friedrich
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2007, 03:09:37 AM »
Yes, it seems the primary battery now also charges
with Rick?s setup.

This was different in the Bedini systems, as there the primary battery discharged,
but charged other batteries.

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Re: New selfcharging Bedini setup from Rick Friedrich
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2007, 04:13:12 AM »
Hy,

Thanks for your "enlightments", it's ? pretty good news !
Perhaps ? very big news !
I hope lots replications quickly appears..
I just Order my material to build ? simple SG, but this setup interting me, perhaps it's better to go step by step but it poke my curiosity...

Molux

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Re: New selfcharging Bedini setup from Rick Friedrich
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2007, 12:11:40 PM »
I all,

This motor is amazing, J.Bedini apparently valid it 'itself ! Contrary of Mike Replication, John Bedini say that Rick Friedrich replication it's a real advanced low cost engine.
It's so amazing, the Bedini's technologie community do ? big step with this informations.

We have to replic it ! When more than one replication exist, this "theorie" can't be ignored !


Do replications !

Molux

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Re: New selfcharging Bedini setup from Rick Friedrich
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2007, 01:05:47 AM »
Hello,

I have completly read more and more time the Rick schematic publications and d?tails.Due to by bad english, i dont undertand all and i have many question before build this replication, can someone help me to clarify that ?
Sorry for my bad english, and perhaps stupids questions, but i want to understood


1) - Where is the big window coil around the wheel ont the schematic ?
Does it "optionnal" ? does the this motor is self runner without it ?


2) - What does it mean: 4 stands #18 wire @100' ?
I know AWG for #18, but what is "stands" and what mean "@" ?


3) - Why Rick speak about "4th" wire ?
How many wire are in bottom cole ?


4) - What mean Wood and Buss ?
Wood be translated in french by something like "peace of tree" but Buss whont be translated


5) - can you confirm for S1 ?
As show on a picture, S1 seems to be ? very simple switch build with 2 peace or R60 and a copper pipe. Apparently the copper pipe named "buss".
Apparently S1 be placed a 1/2 way between two magnets after the magnet clockwith.


6) - How does work S2 ?
How does it close contact with a peace of wood ?
What is the role of wood ?


7) - Does S1 and S2 be "manipulate" by the same copper pipe name "Buss"


8) - S1 and S2 are 180 out of phase. Wood opened S2 before and after buss closes. What does mean this sentence ?
i dont understand very well this sentence.


9) - 5 mil gap difference between each rod and buss.
5 mil does mean 5 millimeters ? What mean "gap" ?

10)- Under some picture i see that the wire on the main coil are not ? "   
enamelled copper wire", it look like common electric wire with a plastic "sheath", can you enlight me ?


I have probleme to understand the S1 and S2 work, if someone can help me.


Thanks a lot for you reading, thanks in advance for four help

Molux

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Re: New selfcharging Bedini setup from Rick Friedrich
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2007, 08:01:55 PM »
Hi Molux,
Rick is just pulsing his primary battery with the high voltage pulses
from the upper coils which went via the graetz bridge rectifier and then
via the mechanical switch at the side of the wheel,
which makes this clicking noise !
Watch the videos !
Then it all gets clear !

The other things are standard Bedini circuits !

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: New selfcharging Bedini setup from Rick Friedrich
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2007, 04:22:26 PM »
Hy Sir Hartiberlin,

Thanks ? lot to help me, i collect all the information here and under SG Workgroup 1.
So for someone that have bad english like me this perhaps enlight you:

The "triggers" of switch, mounted on the side of whell (placement very important)
(http://www.syscoil.org/medias/images/illustrations/self_runner/self_runner_switchs.jpg)

This is S1
(http://www.syscoil.org/medias/images/illustrations/self_runner/self_runner_s1.jpg)

This is S2 (not use on vid?o)
(http://www.syscoil.org/medias/images/illustrations/self_runner/self_runner_s2.jpg)

If i look at the schematic here (From PESwiki, thanks to Rick):
(http://peswiki.com/images/c/c3/Self-runner1.JPG)

i  see:
- S1 that flow current from top coil to primary batterie when it shorly close
- S2 that can disconnect electronique form charging and primary battery

Can you say to me:
- Why Rick stop to use the S2 ?
- I this under the vid?o S2 be alway close ? it's true ?

Can you give me the light to the S2 role and function ?

Molux


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Re: New selfcharging Bedini setup from Rick Friedrich
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2007, 06:12:52 PM »
Hi Molux,
S1 is the Buss bar as you have shown in your picture.
That is right.
It is used to pulse once every revolution the High voltage pulses
from the graetz bridge to the primary battery.

S2 is only used to switch On or Off the whole device !

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Re: New selfcharging Bedini setup from Rick Friedrich
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2007, 09:42:18 PM »
Hy Hartiberlin,

Thanks for you confirmations, and i'm confused to ask a stupid question about S2.
I'm focalized on the wood and the S2 switch and i have lost the basic of schematic... 1000 excuses....

So S1 control backpoping battery and S2 (optionnal) is to upgrade charging power and wheel speed but this engine work without it.

A schematic instead of long spitch:
(http://www.syscoil.org/medias/images/illustrations/self_runner/self_runner_contact_graph.jpg)

A french interpr?tation of this motor can be view here:
http://www.syscoil.org/index.php?cmd=nav&cid=107

Another Thank for read me HartiBerlin.

Molux
« Last Edit: May 23, 2007, 10:04:47 PM by molux »

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Re: New selfcharging Bedini setup from Rick Friedrich
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2007, 04:46:17 AM »
Hi Molux,

Your diagram is correct.

The purpose of S2 is to disconnect the primary battery from the SSG circuit when S1 is pulsed (or back-popped) into the primary battery. In this mode the primary battery goes through a discharge-charge-discharge-charge-etc. cycle, but only for a fraction of time during one revolution. For example, S2 opens for 100mS and S1 closes for 50mS.

The amount of time that S2 is opened does not affect the speed of the wheel because of the flywheel effect. In fact the motor should speed up because of the large surge of voltage momentarily going into the primary battery, which in turn increases the charging of the secondary battery.

I also believe (just my opinion) that when S2 is opened it prevents >1000V going into the SSG circuit which may damage the components. I think this is why Rick has rated all of the components at 1000V.

John

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Re: New selfcharging Bedini setup from Rick Friedrich
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2007, 10:06:39 AM »
Hello,

Thanks Gandalf for thoses pr?cisions.
I agree about the > 1000 volts flows cutting to the circuit.

I spend 1 week to ask to a french trader from Lincoln company but nobody answers....
It's so hard to find R60 in france..

Molux

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Re: New selfcharging Bedini setup from Rick Friedrich
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2007, 12:48:51 PM »
Hi Molux, you can probably also just use transformer core iron metal
or just a few iron nails
or also ferrite rods...

It is just there to make a larger L inductance !

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Re: New selfcharging Bedini setup from Rick Friedrich
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2007, 04:18:54 PM »
Hy,

Thanks for your suggestions Harti, perhaps i have to do that.
Under our small french forum someone say that:

"...You can do a very well core with 70% of nanocristalyn Fe304 powder and 30% of    
composite resin...this material have great magnetic coeff... 5 Kg of Fe304 powder cost ~40?..."

What do you think about ? Did you heard that on a Workgroup ?

I know John Bedini build his core with R60, but if i cant find it i try with some ferrite or other...


For information, R60 look like this:
(http://www.syscoil.org/medias/images/illustrations/materiel/lincolnr60.jpg)

Molux
« Last Edit: May 28, 2007, 04:40:33 PM by molux »

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Re: New selfcharging Bedini setup from Rick Friedrich
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2007, 04:40:14 AM »
Molux,

As another option you can get some regular arc welding rods (the thinner the better) and just belt all of the flux material off them with a hammer. I tried this while I was waiting for my R60 rods and it worked fine.

John