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Author Topic: Better Direct Carbon Conversion fuel cells  (Read 10771 times)

Offline hartiberlin

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Better Direct Carbon Conversion fuel cells
« on: May 12, 2007, 09:08:56 PM »
Hi All,
the last 2 days I have pondered a lot about the direct conversion
of  carbon to electricity in a new fuel cell.

As this would be an ultimate green cycle
to use charcoal or carbon from biomass waste to
convert directly to electricity without burning and
with high efficiency higher than 60 % !

There are a few new direct carbon conversion
fuel cells now developed, but all of them have the problem,
that they are using high temperatures for the KOH
electrolytes or Sn metal electrolyte.


What I experienced with my Newman machine studies is,
that there also is carbon used inside the brushes of the
commutator and I also got a positive confirmation
answer from the Newman engineers,
that the Newman back spike current effect only works well,
when they used a copper-graphite(conductive carbon)
pair as the commutator contact points.
With other metal combinations and without graphite the
strange big back current spike into the battery was not seen.


So it seems there is now another possibility to convert carbon
directly to electrical energy !

As the plasma that comes up, when we fire a BackEMF pulse
via a coil across a sparkgap from copper and graphite electrodes,
we have there a battery cell, that has 2 different metal electrodes
(Copper and Graphite) and have an electrolyte, which is the plasma
inside the spark of the sparkgap !

This way we can "burn" the graphite electrode in air (oxidize it)
and thus produce
additional current into the circuit !

This is probably also the main effect of the Newman motors
and all "overunity" systems that are sparkgap based on !

There you just oxidize the electrode materials inside the
hot plasma spark and use this as a basic battery cell to
get additional free electrons flowing into the circuit.

I will now try to scale this effect up and see, if I can
burn more graphite faster via bigger sparks and just get
more electricity into the coil-sparkgap-battery system this
way and recharge batteries this way.

This then would be a very efficient direct conversion
of carbon material into electrical energy and could
be stored in accumulator batteries without the
need of high temperature electrolyte like KOH or simular
agressive substances !

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Better Direct Carbon Conversion fuel cells
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2007, 09:19:49 PM »
Here are still a few links for the cheap production
from biomass waste directly to carbon

http://www.mpg.de/bilderBerichteDokumente/multimedial/filmeWissenschaft/2006/07/KochKohleEN/english.html
http://www.mpg.de/bilderBerichteDokumente/multimedial/filmeWissenschaft/2006/07/KochKohleEN/downloadEngl.html

http://www.hnei.hawaii.edu/bio.r3.asp#biocarbonfuelcells

and other direct carbon conversion fuel cells,
but which only workon high temperates and dangerous
materials:


http://www.sara.com/RAE/carbon_fuel.html
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=4&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=6200697&OS=6200697&RS=6200697

http://www.celltechpower.com/technology.htm

These can all be replaced by a high voltage BackEMF spark generated fuel cell battery
system, which oxidizes the carbon atom in the air inside a spark gap.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Better Direct Carbon Conversion fuel cells
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2007, 10:11:41 PM »
Stefan,

Carbon is also used in Ultracaps. Regarding your previous email, its questionable whether carbon graphite is consumed. The transmutation process combines two carbons with two oxygens to form iron. However, using carbon graphite in spark gaps produces what are called Dirac Quasiparticles.  Its these Quasiparticles that appear to be associated with excess electrical energy. They make these spark gaps look like NEGATIVE resistors.

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Re: Better Direct Carbon Conversion fuel cells
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2007, 10:11:41 PM »
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Re: Better Direct Carbon Conversion fuel cells
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2007, 01:32:11 AM »
Hi Bill,
the graphite of the electrode is surely consumed after a while.

I will be doing some new experiments in June when I have more time
to experiment again to prove it.

Stay tuned.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Better Direct Carbon Conversion fuel cells
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2007, 02:57:39 PM »
Good Job.

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Re: Better Direct Carbon Conversion fuel cells
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Re: Better Direct Carbon Conversion fuel cells
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2007, 02:35:48 AM »
How about the home grown version only using a metal rod and a copper wire with electrical tape to make the commutator?

Where is the carbon transmutation now?

also electric and digital versions of commutators work as well many of which do not use graphite at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDPPWyVswMQ
 
and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t4mUIBkhFc

 

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